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Old 16-06-2006, 12:54 AM   #1
John Jay Smith
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I have stated before what I think the future will be for Microsoft with
vista and office 2007 ....
They are badly designed abominations... and it seems that Gates is getting
out of the boat before it sinks...

http://news.com.com/Gates+stepping+...tml?tag=nl.e498


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Old 16-06-2006, 01:15 AM   #2
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At 50 billion dollars of personal net worth he doesn't need to abandon
anything. The day you have more money than your bank you can talk.

"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
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>I have stated before what I think the future will be for Microsoft with
>vista and office 2007 ....
> They are badly designed abominations... and it seems that Gates is getting
> out of the boat before it sinks...
>
> http://news.com.com/Gates+stepping+...tml?tag=nl.e498
>



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Old 16-06-2006, 01:28 AM   #3
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Bill announced long ago that he was moving away from running the company
full time, this is no surprise.

> They are badly designed abominations


Then why do you persist in using them? Why are you not perusing the nix
groups instead?

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Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

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Old 16-06-2006, 02:05 AM   #4
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(Forgive me if the is a duplicate post) If you are only here to flame- GO
AWAY- this newsgroup is for Vista beta users to ask questions-go to your
favorite flameing home and rant there. The people helping here do not need
your BS.

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Bill announced long ago that he was moving away from running the company
> full time, this is no surprise.
>
> > They are badly designed abominations

>
> Then why do you persist in using them? Why are you not perusing the nix
> groups instead?
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
>

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Old 16-06-2006, 02:39 AM   #5
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I'll assume you are talking to the original poster and not me (whom you
responded to).

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"daddy3" <daddy3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:33D97953-1304-43E5-BED6-116CBB637FF2@microsoft.com...
> (Forgive me if the is a duplicate post) If you are only here to flame- GO
> AWAY- this newsgroup is for Vista beta users to ask questions-go to your
> favorite flameing home and rant there. The people helping here do not
> need
> your BS.
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> Bill announced long ago that he was moving away from running the company
>> full time, this is no surprise.
>>
>> > They are badly designed abominations

>>
>> Then why do you persist in using them? Why are you not perusing the nix
>> groups instead?
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>>


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Old 16-06-2006, 02:50 AM   #6
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John--

If Bill Gates had done nothing more than make the profound difference he has
with the contributions of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and
specifically to medicine, that would have been a life time accomplishement
that few people obtain and the medical communities on this planet couldn't.

There are a number of people who have been showing up very early in the day
at MSFT who have not needed to work at any regular job (money wise) for the
rest of their lives whose names you never hear..

Vista needs work and feature changes, including to retain some of the
features in XP as options, but it is not in any way "badly designed" or an
abomination. To believe that you would have to really sell these people
short. I find plenty to criticize and change but badly designed abomination
isn't any kind of description for Vista or Office 2007 that I have been
working with that's credible.

CH




"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
news:ehLcx9NkGHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I have stated before what I think the future will be for Microsoft with
>vista and office 2007 ....
> They are badly designed abominations... and it seems that Gates is getting
> out of the boat before it sinks...
>
> http://news.com.com/Gates+stepping+...tml?tag=nl.e498
>



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Old 16-06-2006, 02:51 AM   #7
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Yes I was refering to the original posting and it did not quote all posts
together-buggy today

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> I'll assume you are talking to the original poster and not me (whom you
> responded to).
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "daddy3" <daddy3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:33D97953-1304-43E5-BED6-116CBB637FF2@microsoft.com...
> > (Forgive me if the is a duplicate post) If you are only here to flame- GO
> > AWAY- this newsgroup is for Vista beta users to ask questions-go to your
> > favorite flameing home and rant there. The people helping here do not
> > need
> > your BS.
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Bill announced long ago that he was moving away from running the company
> >> full time, this is no surprise.
> >>
> >> > They are badly designed abominations
> >>
> >> Then why do you persist in using them? Why are you not perusing the nix
> >> groups instead?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >>
> >>

>
>

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Old 16-06-2006, 04:20 AM   #8
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Nice reply, Chad. Short, concise, pithy. I agree thoroughly.

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:50:48 -0400, "Chad Harris"
<GreenzoneistoIraqlikeOlivegardentoItaly@lol.net> wrote:

>John--
>
>If Bill Gates had done nothing more than make the profound difference he has
>with the contributions of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and
>specifically to medicine, that would have been a life time accomplishement
>that few people obtain and the medical communities on this planet couldn't.
>
>There are a number of people who have been showing up very early in the day
>at MSFT who have not needed to work at any regular job (money wise) for the
>rest of their lives whose names you never hear..
>
>Vista needs work and feature changes, including to retain some of the
>features in XP as options, but it is not in any way "badly designed" or an
>abomination. To believe that you would have to really sell these people
>short. I find plenty to criticize and change but badly designed abomination
>isn't any kind of description for Vista or Office 2007 that I have been
>working with that's credible.
>
>CH
>
>
>
>
>"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
>news:ehLcx9NkGHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I have stated before what I think the future will be for Microsoft with
>>vista and office 2007 ....
>> They are badly designed abominations... and it seems that Gates is getting
>> out of the boat before it sinks...
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Gates+stepping+...tml?tag=nl.e498
>>

>

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Old 16-06-2006, 10:05 AM   #9
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You are kinda stupid, like the person who thought up the idea for the office
ribbon and
vista start menu!!!

This newsgroup says "GENERAL". What does that mean? Well it means I can talk
about anything
I want related to vista. This is not a moderated group (Thank God), and it
IS usenet, that is free for
everyone to say what he thinks.


"daddy3" <daddy3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5FB33CD3-1DEA-4926-81E4-43A68118B43F@microsoft.com...
> Yes I was refering to the original posting and it did not quote all posts
> together-buggy today
>
> "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>
>> I'll assume you are talking to the original poster and not me (whom you
>> responded to).
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "daddy3" <daddy3@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:33D97953-1304-43E5-BED6-116CBB637FF2@microsoft.com...
>> > (Forgive me if the is a duplicate post) If you are only here to flame-
>> > GO
>> > AWAY- this newsgroup is for Vista beta users to ask questions-go to
>> > your
>> > favorite flameing home and rant there. The people helping here do not
>> > need
>> > your BS.
>> >
>> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Bill announced long ago that he was moving away from running the
>> >> company
>> >> full time, this is no surprise.
>> >>
>> >> > They are badly designed abominations
>> >>
>> >> Then why do you persist in using them? Why are you not perusing the
>> >> nix
>> >> groups instead?
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Best of Luck,
>> >>
>> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>> >>
>> >>

>>
>>



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Old 16-06-2006, 10:19 AM   #10
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Bill Gates knows very well that he can do as many things simultaneously as
he can imagine, and
still make sure that he is successful in all of them. There is one catch
though to accomplish this.

You have to have a desire and vision and emotion tied with all projects.

The core of the problem is that he has LOST INTEREST in MS, and it shows. It
started out with the
fanfare of longhorn where great things would come to the computing world,
and it turned out to become
vista??? (an abomination.. lol thats the best description, if you compare it
with what it started out to be
and what it could have been)

I have to tell you this but Gates could contribute more to the world if he
did it his way, with technology.
And I am not talking about windows or office. There could be other ways. But
he disregarded the
"free laptop for each child of the third world" initiative. Why? I see that
this thing could truly change the world
for the better.

Something is fishy... and its starting to smell. You will see what I mean in
a couple of years....
Its too soon now, that's why you see my post as only an eccentric rant.
But its not.

I am not wrong about this. Mark my words. Vista will do such harm to
Microsoft, that
they will need years to recover.




"Chad Harris" <GreenzoneistoIraqlikeOlivegardentoItaly@lol.net> wrote in
message news:%23XD7u%23OkGHA.1640@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> John--
>
> If Bill Gates had done nothing more than make the profound difference he
> has with the contributions of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and
> specifically to medicine, that would have been a life time accomplishement
> that few people obtain and the medical communities on this planet
> couldn't.
>
> There are a number of people who have been showing up very early in the
> day at MSFT who have not needed to work at any regular job (money wise)
> for the rest of their lives whose names you never hear..
>
> Vista needs work and feature changes, including to retain some of the
> features in XP as options, but it is not in any way "badly designed" or an
> abomination. To believe that you would have to really sell these people
> short. I find plenty to criticize and change but badly designed
> abomination isn't any kind of description for Vista or Office 2007 that I
> have been working with that's credible.
>
> CH
>
>
>
>
> "John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
> news:ehLcx9NkGHA.4276@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I have stated before what I think the future will be for Microsoft with
>>vista and office 2007 ....
>> They are badly designed abominations... and it seems that Gates is
>> getting out of the boat before it sinks...
>>
>> http://news.com.com/Gates+stepping+...tml?tag=nl.e498
>>

>
>



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