interesting problem- would you know how to fix this?

I created a user limited account on my windows xp pro computer. Windows
Installer came out and installed office 2003 so it would work for the
limited user. Windows Defender popped up telling me that a new program was
being installed and if i wanted to allow it. When I clicked on WD icon it
showed it as succeed but still asked what I wanted to do. I could not click
on allow- because it was shaded out. I could not do a thing because
everything was shaded out and the WD icon stayed blue in the taskbar waiting
for me to do something.
On my side where I have administrative priviliges I checked to make sure in
both boxes all users have access to do things and it did.
Why would it not allow me to do anything on the limited side since
everything was checked on the admin side?
robin
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R&D Internet Associates
http://rdinternetassociates.com

I have to confess that I've done little with limited users--but I wonder if
this is an XP restriction, rather than Defender?

If you turn off Defender, can the limited user do the install?

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"robinb" <robinbk9_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:ePEL8vELHHA.632@TK2MSFTNGPRV04.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>I created a user limited account on my windows xp pro computer. Windows
>Installer came out and installed office 2003 so it would work for the
>limited user. Windows Defender popped up telling me that a new program was
>being installed and if i wanted to allow it. When I clicked on WD icon it
>showed it as succeed but still asked what I wanted to do. I could not
>click on allow- because it was shaded out. I could not do a thing because
>everything was shaded out and the WD icon stayed blue in the taskbar
>waiting for me to do something.
> On my side where I have administrative priviliges I checked to make sure
> in both boxes all users have access to do things and it did.
> Why would it not allow me to do anything on the limited side since
> everything was checked on the admin side?
> robin
> --
> R&D Internet Associates
> http://rdinternetassociates.com
>
>

I don't know how Windows Installer fits in, but in general it is common to
require an administrator to install.

Common installation tasks that have this requirement due to default
permissions/rights are:

Writing to \Program Files.
Writing to HLKM\Software, which a limited user cannot.
Writing a shared DLL file in the system32 folder.
Installing a service.

Paul

"Bill Sanderson MVP" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
news:uqzrZXGLHHA.3160@TK2MSFTNGPRV03.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>I have to confess that I've done little with limited users--but I wonder if
>this is an XP restriction, rather than Defender?
>
> If you turn off Defender, can the limited user do the install?
>
> --
>
> "robinb" <robinbk9_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:ePEL8vELHHA.632@TK2MSFTNGPRV04.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>>I created a user limited account on my windows xp pro computer. Windows
>>Installer came out and installed office 2003 so it would work for the
>>limited user. Windows Defender popped up telling me that a new program
>>was being installed and if i wanted to allow it. When I clicked on WD
>>icon it showed it as succeed but still asked what I wanted to do. I could
>>not click on allow- because it was shaded out. I could not do a thing
>>because everything was shaded out and the WD icon stayed blue in the
>>taskbar waiting for me to do something.
>> On my side where I have administrative priviliges I checked to make sure
>> in both boxes all users have access to do things and it did.
>> Why would it not allow me to do anything on the limited side since
>> everything was checked on the admin side?
>> robin
>> --
>> R&D Internet Associates
>> http://rdinternetassociates.com
>>
>>
>
>

no windows installer installed MS Word on the limited account.
WD was the problem because it would not let you "allow" disallow" anything-
everything is grayed out.
The icon just sat in the right side of the taskbar with a blue ? through it
but would not allow you to do a thing when you opened the program but it did
say it permited it and succeeded.
Limited accounts can do some things.
I set up this particular one so that my son had no access to my files and
certain programs and so he could not 'fool around with any of my settings"
I just gave him the abilitity to use Microsoft Office 2003 and firefox.

But in the WD program (with full administrative access) if you check in
tools/options, administrative options, and check the two boxes it gives
limited access users the ability to apply actions, etc.
I am wondering if this is a bug in WD

robin
"Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" <paulb@online.rochester.rr.com>
wrote in message
news:%23$bY$XILHHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGPRV02.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>I don't know how Windows Installer fits in, but in general it is common to
>require an administrator to install.
>
> Common installation tasks that have this requirement due to default
> permissions/rights are:
>
> Writing to \Program Files.
> Writing to HLKM\Software, which a limited user cannot.
> Writing a shared DLL file in the system32 folder.
> Installing a service.
>
> Paul
>
> "Bill Sanderson MVP" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
> news:uqzrZXGLHHA.3160@TK2MSFTNGPRV03.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>>I have to confess that I've done little with limited users--but I wonder
>>if this is an XP restriction, rather than Defender?
>>
>> If you turn off Defender, can the limited user do the install?
>>
>> --
>>
>> "robinb" <robinbk9_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:ePEL8vELHHA.632@TK2MSFTNGPRV04.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>>>I created a user limited account on my windows xp pro computer. Windows
>>>Installer came out and installed office 2003 so it would work for the
>>>limited user. Windows Defender popped up telling me that a new program
>>>was being installed and if i wanted to allow it. When I clicked on WD
>>>icon it showed it as succeed but still asked what I wanted to do. I
>>>could not click on allow- because it was shaded out. I could not do a
>>>thing because everything was shaded out and the WD icon stayed blue in
>>>the taskbar waiting for me to do something.
>>> On my side where I have administrative priviliges I checked to make sure
>>> in both boxes all users have access to do things and it did.
>>> Why would it not allow me to do anything on the limited side since
>>> everything was checked on the admin side?
>>> robin
>>> --
>>> R&D Internet Associates
>>> http://rdinternetassociates.com
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

I sorry, I don't know anything about the Windows Defender part of this. It
does sound like a bug, though.

Limited accounts can do just about anything if you give them the right
permissions and rights, but under all reasonable circumstances, they can't
install a program. I have read what you said again and it seems you are
saying that an administrator is doing the installing with the intent that a
limited user can use it. Sure, that should work.

Paul

"robinb" <robinbk9_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%233uudkPLHHA.5100@TK2MSFTNGPRV03.privatenews.microsoft.com...
> no windows installer installed MS Word on the limited account.
> WD was the problem because it would not let you "allow" disallow"
> anything- everything is grayed out.
> The icon just sat in the right side of the taskbar with a blue ? through
> it but would not allow you to do a thing when you opened the program but
> it did say it permited it and succeeded.
> Limited accounts can do some things.
> I set up this particular one so that my son had no access to my files and
> certain programs and so he could not 'fool around with any of my settings"
> I just gave him the abilitity to use Microsoft Office 2003 and firefox.
>
> But in the WD program (with full administrative access) if you check in
> tools/options, administrative options, and check the two boxes it gives
> limited access users the ability to apply actions, etc.
> I am wondering if this is a bug in WD
>
> robin
> "Paul Baker [MVP, Windows - Networking]" <paulb@online.rochester.rr.com>
> wrote in message
> news:%23$bY$XILHHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGPRV02.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>>I don't know how Windows Installer fits in, but in general it is common to
>>require an administrator to install.
>>
>> Common installation tasks that have this requirement due to default
>> permissions/rights are:
>>
>> Writing to \Program Files.
>> Writing to HLKM\Software, which a limited user cannot.
>> Writing a shared DLL file in the system32 folder.
>> Installing a service.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> "Bill Sanderson MVP" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
>> news:uqzrZXGLHHA.3160@TK2MSFTNGPRV03.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>>>I have to confess that I've done little with limited users--but I wonder
>>>if this is an XP restriction, rather than Defender?
>>>
>>> If you turn off Defender, can the limited user do the install?
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> "robinb" <robinbk9_nospam@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ePEL8vELHHA.632@TK2MSFTNGPRV04.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>>>>I created a user limited account on my windows xp pro computer. Windows
>>>>Installer came out and installed office 2003 so it would work for the
>>>>limited user. Windows Defender popped up telling me that a new program
>>>>was being installed and if i wanted to allow it. When I clicked on WD
>>>>icon it showed it as succeed but still asked what I wanted to do. I
>>>>could not click on allow- because it was shaded out. I could not do a
>>>>thing because everything was shaded out and the WD icon stayed blue in
>>>>the taskbar waiting for me to do something.
>>>> On my side where I have administrative priviliges I checked to make
>>>> sure in both boxes all users have access to do things and it did.
>>>> Why would it not allow me to do anything on the limited side since
>>>> everything was checked on the admin side?
>>>> robin
>>>> --
>>>> R&D Internet Associates
>>>> http://rdinternetassociates.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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