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Old 24-02-2007, 12:20 AM   #1
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I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X 1024.
Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for their
screens as
many have their resolutions set at 800x600.

Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the lower
resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?

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Old 24-02-2007, 11:07 AM   #2
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Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm

How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind that
each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.

Most likely you will need to start again.

PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
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> I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X 1024.
> Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for their
> screens as
> many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
>
> Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the lower
> resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?


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Old 24-02-2007, 04:09 PM   #3
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I'm using the Layers feature from the insert menu EXCLUSIVELY. Four to Five
LAYERS per page.

"Ronx" wrote:

> Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm
>
> How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
> table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind that
> each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
> this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.
>
> Most likely you will need to start again.
>
> PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
> screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
>
>
> "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F71ACE0C-3E03-4953-98FC-7EC6A47C5F31@microsoft.com:
>
> > I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X 1024.
> > Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for their
> > screens as
> > many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
> >
> > Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the lower
> > resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?

>
>

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Old 24-02-2007, 04:16 PM   #4
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Before you get in too deep with layers, read these -

http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layerlaws.asp
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_positioning.asp

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"Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9CBB494F-D831-4A81-8249-A274A169A9FB@microsoft.com...
> I'm using the Layers feature from the insert menu EXCLUSIVELY. Four to
> Five
> LAYERS per page.
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>
>> Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm
>>
>> How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
>> table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind that
>> each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
>> this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.
>>
>> Most likely you will need to start again.
>>
>> PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
>> screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
>> --
>> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>>
>>
>>
>> "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F71ACE0C-3E03-4953-98FC-7EC6A47C5F31@microsoft.com:
>>
>> > I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X
>> > 1024.
>> > Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for their
>> > screens as
>> > many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
>> >
>> > Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the lower
>> > resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?

>>
>>



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Old 24-02-2007, 04:24 PM   #5
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How about a message page advising the visitor that the website is viewed best
if
display resolution is set at 1280 X 1024

"Stumped" wrote:

> I'm using the Layers feature from the insert menu EXCLUSIVELY. Four to Five
> LAYERS per page.
>
> "Ronx" wrote:
>
> > Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm
> >
> > How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
> > table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind that
> > each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
> > this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.
> >
> > Most likely you will need to start again.
> >
> > PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
> > screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
> > --
> > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
> >
> >
> >
> > "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:F71ACE0C-3E03-4953-98FC-7EC6A47C5F31@microsoft.com:
> >
> > > I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X 1024.
> > > Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for their
> > > screens as
> > > many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
> > >
> > > Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the lower
> > > resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?

> >
> >

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Old 24-02-2007, 05:29 PM   #6
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Might as well tell them to only use IE6, too.

Do you really think anyone is going to change their resolution to see your
page? And what about those whose graphics subsystem doesn't support
1280x1024?

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"Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news6FA0B32-4F9B-4AF7-A1DD-D0DF589F11B2@microsoft.com...
> How about a message page advising the visitor that the website is viewed
> best
> if
> display resolution is set at 1280 X 1024
>
> "Stumped" wrote:
>
>> I'm using the Layers feature from the insert menu EXCLUSIVELY. Four to
>> Five
>> LAYERS per page.
>>
>> "Ronx" wrote:
>>
>> > Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm
>> >
>> > How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
>> > table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind
>> > that
>> > each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
>> > this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.
>> >
>> > Most likely you will need to start again.
>> >
>> > PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
>> > screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
>> > --
>> > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
>> > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>> > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
>> > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:F71ACE0C-3E03-4953-98FC-7EC6A47C5F31@microsoft.com:
>> >
>> > > I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X
>> > > 1024.
>> > > Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for
>> > > their
>> > > screens as
>> > > many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
>> > >
>> > > Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the
>> > > lower
>> > > resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?
>> >
>> >



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Old 24-02-2007, 06:20 PM   #7
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Well, I guess I'm still struggling with the concept. On one hand I hear
RESOLUTION is not the problem or the solution and on the other hand I'm
hearing that one should create a website in 800 X 600. Are we merely talking
about a browser issue here?

"Murray" wrote:

> Might as well tell them to only use IE6, too.
>
> Do you really think anyone is going to change their resolution to see your
> page? And what about those whose graphics subsystem doesn't support
> 1280x1024?
>
> --
> Murray
> --------------
> MVP FrontPage
>
>
> "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news6FA0B32-4F9B-4AF7-A1DD-D0DF589F11B2@microsoft.com...
> > How about a message page advising the visitor that the website is viewed
> > best
> > if
> > display resolution is set at 1280 X 1024
> >
> > "Stumped" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm using the Layers feature from the insert menu EXCLUSIVELY. Four to
> >> Five
> >> LAYERS per page.
> >>
> >> "Ronx" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm
> >> >
> >> > How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
> >> > table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind
> >> > that
> >> > each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
> >> > this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.
> >> >
> >> > Most likely you will need to start again.
> >> >
> >> > PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
> >> > screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
> >> > --
> >> > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> >> > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> >> > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> >> > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:F71ACE0C-3E03-4953-98FC-7EC6A47C5F31@microsoft.com:
> >> >
> >> > > I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X
> >> > > 1024.
> >> > > Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for
> >> > > their
> >> > > screens as
> >> > > many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the
> >> > > lower
> >> > > resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?
> >> >
> >> >

>
>
>

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Old 24-02-2007, 06:48 PM   #8
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We are talking about what size the browser is opened to.
My screen resolution is 2560x1024. My browser is normally opened to
800x600.
Many users with high resolution screens make the most of the real estate
by opening some applications (web browsers, email clients, etc.) in
small windows.

Then there are those users who have sidebars open on their browsers,
making the browser up to 300 pixels narrower.

Screen resolution can be ignored. You have to design for the browser
portal width - the width users can actually see in their browsers.
--
Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp



"Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3BD0E8D7-AEE3-42CA-B97A-0D4DCF69E7ED@microsoft.com:

> Well, I guess I'm still struggling with the concept. On one hand I hear
> RESOLUTION is not the problem or the solution and on the other hand I'm
> hearing that one should create a website in 800 X 600. Are we merely talking
> about a browser issue here?
>
> "Murray" wrote:
>
> > Might as well tell them to only use IE6, too.
> >
> > Do you really think anyone is going to change their resolution to see your
> > page? And what about those whose graphics subsystem doesn't support
> > 1280x1024?
> >
> > --
> > Murray
> > --------------
> > MVP FrontPage
> >
> >
> > "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news6FA0B32-4F9B-4AF7-A1DD-D0DF589F11B2@microsoft.com...
> > > How about a message page advising the visitor that the website is viewed
> > > best
> > > if
> > > display resolution is set at 1280 X 1024
> > >
> > > "Stumped" wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm using the Layers feature from the insert menu EXCLUSIVELY. Four to
> > >> Five
> > >> LAYERS per page.
> > >>
> > >> "Ronx" wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm
> > >> >
> > >> > How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
> > >> > table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind
> > >> > that
> > >> > each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
> > >> > this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.
> > >> >
> > >> > Most likely you will need to start again.
> > >> >
> > >> > PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
> > >> > screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
> > >> > --
> > >> > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > >> > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> > >> > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> > >> > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> > news:F71ACE0C-3E03-4953-98FC-7EC6A47C5F31@microsoft.com:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X
> > >> > > 1024.
> > >> > > Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for
> > >> > > their
> > >> > > screens as
> > >> > > many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the
> > >> > > lower
> > >> > > resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?
> > >> >
> > >> >

> >
> >
> >


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Old 24-02-2007, 10:11 PM   #9
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OK. Browser Portal Width. Screen Resolution can be ignored. And so when
you create a FrontPage Website, what are the significant settings or events
or factors to watch/take into consideration if you are keeping Browser Portal
Width in mind.
Thanks.


"Ronx" wrote:

> We are talking about what size the browser is opened to.
> My screen resolution is 2560x1024. My browser is normally opened to
> 800x600.
> Many users with high resolution screens make the most of the real estate
> by opening some applications (web browsers, email clients, etc.) in
> small windows.
>
> Then there are those users who have sidebars open on their browsers,
> making the browser up to 300 pixels narrower.
>
> Screen resolution can be ignored. You have to design for the browser
> portal width - the width users can actually see in their browsers.
> --
> Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
>
>
>
> "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3BD0E8D7-AEE3-42CA-B97A-0D4DCF69E7ED@microsoft.com:
>
> > Well, I guess I'm still struggling with the concept. On one hand I hear
> > RESOLUTION is not the problem or the solution and on the other hand I'm
> > hearing that one should create a website in 800 X 600. Are we merely talking
> > about a browser issue here?
> >
> > "Murray" wrote:
> >
> > > Might as well tell them to only use IE6, too.
> > >
> > > Do you really think anyone is going to change their resolution to see your
> > > page? And what about those whose graphics subsystem doesn't support
> > > 1280x1024?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Murray
> > > --------------
> > > MVP FrontPage
> > >
> > >
> > > "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news6FA0B32-4F9B-4AF7-A1DD-D0DF589F11B2@microsoft.com...
> > > > How about a message page advising the visitor that the website is viewed
> > > > best
> > > > if
> > > > display resolution is set at 1280 X 1024
> > > >
> > > > "Stumped" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm using the Layers feature from the insert menu EXCLUSIVELY. Four to
> > > >> Five
> > > >> LAYERS per page.
> > > >>
> > > >> "Ronx" wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Look at http://www.thepattysite.com/window_sizes1.cfm
> > > >> >
> > > >> > How much work is involved depends on the page structure. If it's a
> > > >> > table layout, replace any fixed cell sizes with %s, bearing in mind
> > > >> > that
> > > >> > each row in a table must add up to 100% - no more and no less. However
> > > >> > this fluid layout will change with browser window sizes.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Most likely you will need to start again.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > PS -screen resolution is not what determines the browser window size,
> > > >> > screen resolution only determines the maximum size.
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
> > > >> > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
> > > >> > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
> > > >> > http://www.rxs-enterprises.org/fp
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "Stumped" <Stumped@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:F71ACE0C-3E03-4953-98FC-7EC6A47C5F31@microsoft.com:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I made a huge mistake of creating a website at a resolution of 1280 X
> > > >> > > 1024.
> > > >> > > Friends are complaining that the website pages are too large for
> > > >> > > their
> > > >> > > screens as
> > > >> > > many have their resolutions set at 800x600.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Is there a reasonably simple way I can CONVERT my website to the
> > > >> > > lower
> > > >> > > resolution without having to recreate it from scratch?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > >
> > >
> > >

>
>

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Old 25-02-2007, 02:41 AM   #10
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Dear Stumped,
To allow the widest number of people to use your website you need to design
it on a 800 x 600 resolution monitor setting. If your website can be viewed
at that level of resolution it can be viewed at higher resolutions where it
only looks smaller (eg. 1028 x 768 etc).

It depends on how many people with smaller monitors you actually want to
serve. The level of "user friendlyness" your after.

The more you set the website to by\e "dynamic" about sizing the table cells
or the columns when using CSS, the more you can have it flex. But when you
do, you loose more of the absolute control of the layout that so many web
designers seem to require.

Tom Miller

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