embedded licensing issues

Hi there,

I have some licensing issues regarding XP Embedded. we sell measuring units
that run Xp Embedded. In target designer I placed the PID that my distributor
gave me, from there I built the image, installed our application and finally
I made an image using disk clone software.

On the production end, we simply restore that image to new disks and ship
them to customers. on the back of the product we put the stickers provided by
our distributor.

I'm wondering if every image has the same PID, aren't we doing something
illegal, even if we bought the licenses and have the stickers on the back of
each unit??

I would also like to make my own label where I would put the same info that
is on the stickers. Is this possible??

tks

Hi Adam

Yes, that's the right way to license XPE.
You signed a OEM CLA Agreement befor you got
the license stickers (COAs), so you are an embedded OEM.

All Embedded OEMs are allowed to clone easely the images so
that every system has the same PID.

The original Label from Microsoft must be attached to the system.
It can be also attached inside the device. It must be only accessible.
(See CLA for details)

There is no advantage to make own labels.
There is only a serial number, base stock number and Product titel
on the label. (PID is comming with a flyer in the license envelope)

Don't give this numer out! it is assignet to your OEM number!



--

Martin Grossen, eMVP

AVNET EMG Silica
Franchise Manager Microsoft Embedded Europe

Your competent partner for Microsoft Embedded licencing

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"adam" <adam@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:E110F69A-3A53-45B8-8EA8-CDA2D1A25452@microsoft.com...
> Hi there,
>
> I have some licensing issues regarding XP Embedded. we sell measuring
> units
> that run Xp Embedded. In target designer I placed the PID that my
> distributor
> gave me, from there I built the image, installed our application and
> finally
> I made an image using disk clone software.
>
> On the production end, we simply restore that image to new disks and ship
> them to customers. on the back of the product we put the stickers provided
> by
> our distributor.
>
> I'm wondering if every image has the same PID, aren't we doing something
> illegal, even if we bought the licenses and have the stickers on the back
> of
> each unit??
>
> I would also like to make my own label where I would put the same info
> that
> is on the stickers. Is this possible??
>
> tks

Hi, Martin

Thanks for the insights, but when you say " Don't give this numer out! it is
assignet to your OEM number!" I find it strange because this number is on the
WERUNTIME.ini file!!! so every person has access to it.

is it like this or am I doing something wrong??

tks, Adam

Hi Adam

Yes, of course somebody can extract the PID out of your system
(wruntime.ini), but what i said was don't give the PID out (without HW).
(To serialz.com or other internet cracking sites...)
:-)




--

Martin Grossen, eMVP

AVNET EMG Silica
Franchise Manager Microsoft Embedded Europe

Your competent partner for Microsoft Embedded licencing

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"adam" <adam@discussions.microsoft.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:C5DD6849-C410-450D-B93A-B022DDBE0189@microsoft.com...
> Hi, Martin
>
> Thanks for the insights, but when you say " Don't give this numer out! it
> is
> assignet to your OEM number!" I find it strange because this number is on
> the
> WERUNTIME.ini file!!! so every person has access to it.
>
> is it like this or am I doing something wrong??
>
> tks, Adam

"Martin Grossen, eMVP [AVNET Silica]" wrote:

> Hi Adam
>
> Yes, of course somebody can extract the PID out of your system
> (wruntime.ini), but what i said was don't give the PID out (without HW).
> (To serialz.com or other internet cracking sites...)
> :-)
>

tks for the answer.
It just seems odd to me that MS puts this kind of info available on the
wruntime.ini file! Every client of ours has access to our PID...

Adam