Spacer GIFs or other methods?

I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells has
sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell me the
pros and cons of using spacers.
Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir

Rarely have I ever used them. I position everything within the cells of
tables.

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Eleanor T. Culling
Leavenworth, WA
Enjoy my photography at
www.eleanorstravels.com
"Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
>has
> sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell me
> the
> pros and cons of using spacers.
> Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir

Thank you, that makes me feel better. Have a great weekend! -- Mir

"E. T. Culling" wrote:

> Rarely have I ever used them. I position everything within the cells of
> tables.
>
> --
> Eleanor T. Culling
> Leavenworth, WA
> Enjoy my photography at
> www.eleanorstravels.com
> "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
> >I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
> >has
> > sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell me
> > the
> > pros and cons of using spacers.
> > Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir
>
>
>

I use them quite often
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"E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
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| Rarely have I ever used them. I position everything within the cells of
| tables.
|
| --
| Eleanor T. Culling
| Leavenworth, WA
| Enjoy my photography at
| www.eleanorstravels.com
| "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
| >I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
| >has
| > sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell me
| > the
| > pros and cons of using spacers.
| > Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir
|
|

Spacer gifs are a bit retro. And Eleanor glibly says that she 'positions
everything in table cells' without explaining what she really means.

The best way to control your tables is not with dimensions at all, but with
CSS. You can set specific cell widths, paddings, and margins quite easily,
and never have to use a spacer gif again.

--
Murray
--------------
MVP FrontPage


"Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
>I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
>has
> sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell me
> the
> pros and cons of using spacers.
> Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir

Hi Mir,

Many people use spacer.gifs to "force" adjoining columns or rows not to
exceed certain sizes. When you use table columns and rows and set their
dimensions in pixels..that really is only a suggested minimum ..and not a
maximum. Using spacer gifs can give you tighter control by not allowing some
adjacent cells to expand beyond those sizes.

--
Joe

Microsoft MVP FrontPage

FrontPage and Expressions Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage

"Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thank you, that makes me feel better. Have a great weekend! -- Mir
>
> "E. T. Culling" wrote:
>
>> Rarely have I ever used them. I position everything within the cells of
>> tables.
>>
>> --
>> Eleanor T. Culling
>> Leavenworth, WA
>> Enjoy my photography at
>> www.eleanorstravels.com
>> "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
>> >I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
>> >has
>> > sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell
>> > me
>> > the
>> > pros and cons of using spacers.
>> > Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir
>>
>>
>>

Glibly she says! What else is there to say?? I don't happen to use CSS
positioning.
Don't know what you mean? Or, what do I really mean?

--
Eleanor T. Culling
Leavenworth, WA
Enjoy my photography at
www.eleanorstravels.com
"Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
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> Spacer gifs are a bit retro. And Eleanor glibly says that she 'positions
> everything in table cells' without explaining what she really means.
>
> The best way to control your tables is not with dimensions at all, but
> with CSS. You can set specific cell widths, paddings, and margins quite
> easily, and never have to use a spacer gif again.
>
> --
> Murray
> --------------
> MVP FrontPage
>
>
> "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
>>I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
>>has
>> sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell me
>> the
>> pros and cons of using spacers.
>> Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir
>
>

> Or, what do I really mean?

That's the point! I don't know exactly what you mean when you say that you
position them in table cells. I just meant that it was a bit vague....


--
Murray
--------------
MVP FrontPage


"E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
news:eaJPopQrGHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Glibly she says! What else is there to say?? I don't happen to use CSS
> positioning.
> Don't know what you mean? Or, what do I really mean?
>
> --
> Eleanor T. Culling
> Leavenworth, WA
> Enjoy my photography at
> www.eleanorstravels.com
> "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
> news:%23q32dcQrGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Spacer gifs are a bit retro. And Eleanor glibly says that she 'positions
>> everything in table cells' without explaining what she really means.
>>
>> The best way to control your tables is not with dimensions at all, but
>> with CSS. You can set specific cell widths, paddings, and margins quite
>> easily, and never have to use a spacer gif again.
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> --------------
>> MVP FrontPage
>>
>>
>> "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
>>>I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
>>>has
>>> sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell me
>>> the
>>> pros and cons of using spacers.
>>> Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir
>>
>>
>
>

Joe:

> Using spacer gifs can give you tighter control by not allowing some
> adjacent cells to expand beyond those sizes.

Spacer GIF images could never prevent cells from expanding beyond any size
if the content required. Surely you meant "...cells from contracting below
those sizes." or something?

--
Murray
--------------
MVP FrontPage


"Joe Rohn" <joerohn@OFFfrontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Mir,
>
> Many people use spacer.gifs to "force" adjoining columns or rows not to
> exceed certain sizes. When you use table columns and rows and set their
> dimensions in pixels..that really is only a suggested minimum ..and not a
> maximum. Using spacer gifs can give you tighter control by not allowing
> some adjacent cells to expand beyond those sizes.
>
> --
> Joe
>
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>
> FrontPage and Expressions Users Forums:
> http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
>
> "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CF69539C-8040-44D7-8BAA-35016DD9C1A7@microsoft.com...
>> Thank you, that makes me feel better. Have a great weekend! -- Mir
>>
>> "E. T. Culling" wrote:
>>
>>> Rarely have I ever used them. I position everything within the cells of
>>> tables.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eleanor T. Culling
>>> Leavenworth, WA
>>> Enjoy my photography at
>>> www.eleanorstravels.com
>>> "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
>>> >I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table
>>> >cells
>>> >has
>>> > sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell
>>> > me
>>> > the
>>> > pros and cons of using spacers.
>>> > Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

It works for me ... there's no mystery. I just put stuff in cells and align
it as necessary.

--
Eleanor T. Culling
Leavenworth, WA
Enjoy my photography at
www.eleanorstravels.com
"Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
news:ekHWMxQrGHA.4492@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Or, what do I really mean?
>
> That's the point! I don't know exactly what you mean when you say that
> you position them in table cells. I just meant that it was a bit
> vague....
>
>
> --
> Murray
> --------------
> MVP FrontPage
>
>
> "E. T. Culling" <etcetc@notatcrcwnet.com> wrote in message
> news:eaJPopQrGHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Glibly she says! What else is there to say?? I don't happen to use CSS
>> positioning.
>> Don't know what you mean? Or, what do I really mean?
>>
>> --
>> Eleanor T. Culling
>> Leavenworth, WA
>> Enjoy my photography at
>> www.eleanorstravels.com
>> "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23q32dcQrGHA.4212@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Spacer gifs are a bit retro. And Eleanor glibly says that she
>>> 'positions everything in table cells' without explaining what she really
>>> means.
>>>
>>> The best way to control your tables is not with dimensions at all, but
>>> with CSS. You can set specific cell widths, paddings, and margins quite
>>> easily, and never have to use a spacer gif again.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Murray
>>> --------------
>>> MVP FrontPage
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mir" <Mir@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:499A3D9E-EBD5-4C42-A543-AA08B8F3E549@microsoft.com...
>>>>I haven't been using transparent spacer GIFs. So far, sizing table cells
>>>>has
>>>> sufficed. But some people swear by spacers. So, please, someone, tell
>>>> me the
>>>> pros and cons of using spacers.
>>>> Thanks for any advice you can give me! -- Mir
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>