Getting the twain interface working on an XP user account

WinXP Home. Epson 1200S SCSI scanner, Twain 5 interface, NewSoft Page
Manager
The scanner and software were formerly on a Win98SE system.

I have installed the scanner on an XP Admin account using updated Twain
drivers from Epson and everything works there with the Acquire button on
Page Manager firing up the Twain interface.

But on a User account when I start Page Manager and use the Acquire
button, the Twain interface does NOT fire up and I can only scan with
the XP scanner wizard.

How do I make the Twain work on the user accounts please?

Many thanks.
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Robert M Jones wrote:
> WinXP Home. Epson 1200S SCSI scanner, Twain 5 interface, NewSoft Page
> Manager
> The scanner and software were formerly on a Win98SE system.
>
> I have installed the scanner on an XP Admin account using updated Twain
> drivers from Epson and everything works there with the Acquire button on
> Page Manager firing up the Twain interface.
>
> But on a User account when I start Page Manager and use the Acquire
> button, the Twain interface does NOT fire up and I can only scan with
> the XP scanner wizard.
>
> How do I make the Twain work on the user accounts please?
>
> Many thanks.

Sorry for answering my own post - I solved this by dragging the C:\Epson
folder into the Shared Documents folder.

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Robert M Jones wrote:
> Robert M Jones wrote:
>> WinXP Home. Epson 1200S SCSI scanner, Twain 5 interface, NewSoft Page
>> Manager
>> The scanner and software were formerly on a Win98SE system.
>>
>> I have installed the scanner on an XP Admin account using updated
>> Twain drivers from Epson and everything works there with the Acquire
>> button on Page Manager firing up the Twain interface.
>>
>> But on a User account when I start Page Manager and use the Acquire
>> button, the Twain interface does NOT fire up and I can only scan with
>> the XP scanner wizard.
>>
>> How do I make the Twain work on the user accounts please?
>>
>> Many thanks.
>
> Sorry for answering my own post - I solved this by dragging the C:\Epson
> folder into the Shared Documents folder.
>
Oh dear - I thought I'd cracked it but no.
If I run Page Manager in the Admin account first, and select the Twain
interface, close down again, then switch to the User account, I can get
the Twain interface up in the user account.
But - if I just log on to the User account first, then Page Manager
gives an error message about error opening data source when I click the
acquire button. I then have to go to the Admin account, run the
programme as above, close it, log out, and go back to the User account,
and all is well.

Any ideas please?

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"Robert M Jones" <robert53newsgroups-btysupport@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in
message news:gPOdnSvL0-UXoRTZRVny0Q@bt.com...
> Robert M Jones wrote:
>> Robert M Jones wrote:
>>> WinXP Home. Epson 1200S SCSI scanner, Twain 5 interface, NewSoft Page
>>> Manager
>>> The scanner and software were formerly on a Win98SE system.
>>>
>>> I have installed the scanner on an XP Admin account using updated Twain
>>> drivers from Epson and everything works there with the Acquire button on
>>> Page Manager firing up the Twain interface.
>>>
>>> But on a User account when I start Page Manager and use the Acquire
>>> button, the Twain interface does NOT fire up and I can only scan with
>>> the XP scanner wizard.
>>>
>>> How do I make the Twain work on the user accounts please?
>>>
>>> Many thanks.
>>
>> Sorry for answering my own post - I solved this by dragging the C:\Epson
>> folder into the Shared Documents folder.
>>
> Oh dear - I thought I'd cracked it but no.
> If I run Page Manager in the Admin account first, and select the Twain
> interface, close down again, then switch to the User account, I can get
> the Twain interface up in the user account.
> But - if I just log on to the User account first, then Page Manager gives
> an error message about error opening data source when I click the acquire
> button. I then have to go to the Admin account, run the programme as
> above, close it, log out, and go back to the User account, and all is
> well.
>
> Any ideas please?
>
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> goes to our partners in Bulgaria)
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Are you using XP home or XP Pro? (I see you said Home).

If Home, you will never get the User Account to work.
You will have to use ADMIN.

In Pro, you may be able to set the write permissions on the folder where
Epson TWAIN and Epson software is installed. If you install the Epson
software as a Logged in User, it may work
You do have to run the install for each User account.


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CSM1 wrote:
> Are you using XP home or XP Pro? (I see you said Home).
>
> If Home, you will never get the User Account to work.
> You will have to use ADMIN.
>
> In Pro, you may be able to set the write permissions on the folder where
> Epson TWAIN and Epson software is installed. If you install the Epson
> software as a Logged in User, it may work
> You do have to run the install for each User account.
>
>
OK - thanks. What puzzled me is that it DOES work on User account if I
first switch to Admin account, open Page Manager, use the scanner, and
close and then log off the Admin account. Then "switch user" to user
account. Then instead of getting "error locating data source" I get the
twain interface working properly on the User account. But if I log off
the User account and then log back in again later, that "error locating
data source" comes back.

OK - I disconnected the scanner and removed it from device manager (in
admin account)
Gave user account admin priveliges, installed epson stuff on that
account, connected hardware, let new hardware wizard reinstall the
drivers on that acccount, then turned it back into a user account again.
Same problem - error locating data source.

But yet again - when I used the scanner on Admin account and closed it
and logged off the admin account, then logged onto User account, it
worked fine. But next time I log onto the User account it won't work.
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Robert:
You're not the first:

http://www.codecomments.com/Windows...sage703464.html

http://www.eggheadcafe.com/ng/micro.../post656748.asp

Here's the one I keyed off of:

http://www.kurzweiledu.com/support_...cannerOnXP.html

The problem with the third solution, at least for me, is that I experienced
the same perplexing problem as you. That is I fiddled with the permissions,
signed onto a non-admin account, and it might work once. The next time it
wouldn't!

Basically, here's what I tried before I had to attend to something else:

1. Changing the permissions in the hierarchy of folders
C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5\ES0007 (as per the Kurzweil site)

2. Changing the run permissions of the programs in the folder
C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5

I suspect, TWAIN is creating or accessing a file (temporary?) somewhere
else.

I'm stuck until I find some more free time.

eastside wrote:
> Robert:
> You're not the first:
>
> http://www.codecomments.com/Windows...sage703464.html
>
> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/ng/micro.../post656748.asp
>
> Here's the one I keyed off of:
>
> http://www.kurzweiledu.com/support_...cannerOnXP.html
>
> The problem with the third solution, at least for me, is that I experienced
> the same perplexing problem as you. That is I fiddled with the permissions,
> signed onto a non-admin account, and it might work once. The next time it
> wouldn't!
>
> Basically, here's what I tried before I had to attend to something else:
>
> 1. Changing the permissions in the hierarchy of folders
> C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5\ES0007 (as per the Kurzweil site)
>
> 2. Changing the run permissions of the programs in the folder
> C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5
>
> I suspect, TWAIN is creating or accessing a file (temporary?) somewhere
> else.
>
> I'm stuck until I find some more free time.
>
>
Thanks - I'll try those. I don't think XP Home supports sharing in the
way described (there are only two or three basic options for sharing)
but I will see if I can modify those suggestions for XP Home - I now
know what folder to play with.

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eastside wrote:
> Robert:
> You're not the first:
>
> http://www.codecomments.com/Windows...sage703464.html
>
> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/ng/micro.../post656748.asp
>
> Here's the one I keyed off of:
>
> http://www.kurzweiledu.com/support_...cannerOnXP.html
>
> The problem with the third solution, at least for me, is that I experienced
> the same perplexing problem as you. That is I fiddled with the permissions,
> signed onto a non-admin account, and it might work once. The next time it
> wouldn't!
>
> Basically, here's what I tried before I had to attend to something else:
>
> 1. Changing the permissions in the hierarchy of folders
> C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5\ES0007 (as per the Kurzweil site)
>
> 2. Changing the run permissions of the programs in the folder
> C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5
>
> I suspect, TWAIN is creating or accessing a file (temporary?) somewhere
> else.
>
> I'm stuck until I find some more free time.
>
>

I don't have those exact options on XP Home so I tried something I got
on an MS forum relating to another program - tip supplied by Michael
Bednarek http://mbednarek.com/ - seems to be very helpful for those
programs that won't work in User accounts.

When logged in as administrator navigate to relevant directory and from
a command prompt execute following command
cacls . /e /g Users:f

which grants write priveliges to all users for NEW files only

If that doesn't work, you can extend it to ALL files in the folder with
the command
cacls *.* /e /g Users:f

This seems to have allowed me to use the Twain interface in a User
account. Phew!

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Robert M Jones wrote:
> eastside wrote:
>
>> Robert:
>> You're not the first:
>>
>> http://www.codecomments.com/Windows...sage703464.html
>>
>>
>> http://www.eggheadcafe.com/ng/micro.../post656748.asp
>>
>>
>> Here's the one I keyed off of:
>>
>> http://www.kurzweiledu.com/support_...cannerOnXP.html
>>
>>
>> The problem with the third solution, at least for me, is that I
>> experienced the same perplexing problem as you. That is I fiddled with
>> the permissions, signed onto a non-admin account, and it might work
>> once. The next time it wouldn't!
>>
>> Basically, here's what I tried before I had to attend to something else:
>>
>> 1. Changing the permissions in the hierarchy of folders
>> C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5\ES0007 (as per the Kurzweil site)
>>
>> 2. Changing the run permissions of the programs in the folder
>> C:\WINDOWS\twain_32\EPFB5
>>
>> I suspect, TWAIN is creating or accessing a file (temporary?)
>> somewhere else.
>>
>> I'm stuck until I find some more free time.
>>
>>
> Thanks - I'll try those. I don't think XP Home supports sharing in the
> way described (there are only two or three basic options for sharing)
> but I will see if I can modify those suggestions for XP Home - I now
> know what folder to play with.
>
Just in case you need it in the future, you can get to all of the
Permissions in XP Home Edition by starting Windows in Safe Mode. Keep
hitting F8 (I think) just before Windows starts, i.e. at the end of the
BIOS bootstrap.