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Technophobe wrote:
> PC Magazine - SubVirt, a proof-of-concept virtual machine rootkit > created by MS Research and the University of Michigan, pushes the > envelope for hiding malware. Will this new threat strike from below? Gentlemen, Something for your VM Rootkit discussion. Subversive SubVirt (http://www.viruslist.com/en/weblog?weblogid=182153387) Ron ![]() |
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Ron Lopshire wrote:
> Technophobe wrote: > >> PC Magazine - SubVirt, a proof-of-concept virtual machine rootkit >> created by MS Research and the University of Michigan, pushes the >> envelope for hiding malware. Will this new threat strike from below? > > Gentlemen, > > Something for your VM Rootkit discussion. > > Subversive SubVirt > (http://www.viruslist.com/en/weblog?weblogid=182153387) > > Ron ![]() yeah, or http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.co...d-rootkits.html -- "it's not the right time to be sober now the idiots have taken over spreading like a social cancer, is there an answer?" |
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A tidbit for the Rootkit discussion pot. I recently downloaded some
rootkit related programs from rootkit.com, including one eeyebootroot.zip file containing ebrk.img ... a 512 byte boot sector image file. Here's the readme: ***************************************************** [READ ME] This text is a quick introduction to the eEye BootRoot project and the eEye BootRootKit network kernel backdoor. For much more information, please refer to the slides (eeyebootroot.ppt). [ENCLOSED FILES] The eEye BootRootKit NDIS backdoor is a demonstration of boot-time Windows kernel subversion technology. The assembly source code (ebrk.asm) was written for use with MASM 6.11. It comes in pre-packaged executable form as a floppy disk image (ebrk.img) and as a CD-ROM ISO-9660 image (ebrk.iso). Note that the ISO is bare-bones and does not contain a file system, only a boot sector. If you burn it to disc, it will for the most part appear to be a blank CD. We've also included the source for a very simple demonstration packet (demrsod2.asm), and a compiled binary file (demrsod2.bin) to be used with netcat ("nc -u"). [OVERVIEW] eEye BootRoot is a project presented at Black Hat USA 2005 by Derek Soeder and Ryan Permeh of eEye Digital Security. The goal was to explore *and* *implement* technology that custom boot sector code could use to subvert the Windows NT-family kernel as it loads. To our knowledge, such technology had not previously been publicly demonstrated. eEye BootRootKit is a manifestation of this technology -- a removable-media boot sector that situates itself to regain execution later, as Windows is loading, and then seamlessly continues the boot sequence from hard drive 0. The basic concept employed is to hook INT 13h and "virtually patch" the Windows OS loader as it's read from disk, then leverage this patch to hook into NDIS.SYS after it has been loaded into memory and validated. The hook function's purpose is simple: scan all incoming Ethernet frames for a signature in a specific location, and execute code (with kernel privileges) from any matching frame. The RSoD2 demo gives a very simple display of this capability, by patching NTOSKRNL.EXE in memory and causing a "red screen of death" kernel crash. Try sending the packet to a closed UDP port on a firewalled machine running BootRootKit, or use the broadcast address! [FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS] Q: Why is it "eEye BootRoot"? A: Someone else is already using the "BootRoot", so we wanted the distinction to be absolutely clear. Q: How does it work? A: Please refer to the slides (eeyebootroot.ppt) included in this package. They were written to cover every detail and even provide some handy reference material in case you're interested in producing a derivative work, or writing your own. Q: Is BootRootKit a virus? A: No, it does not modify the contents of the hard drive, nor any other non-volatile storage. And before you even ask, it only hooks NDIS.SYS to monitor incoming packets, so no, it does not send any traffic from the system on which it's running. Q: From what other media could BootRootKit load? A: Theoretically, any boot media. We haven't experimented with bootable USB drives, although we do have a working PXE BOOTP/TFTP server for serving up BootRootKit which we're not releasing at this time. BootRootKit could of course be modified to exist as a replacement hard drive MBR, but again, this would require some code changes. Q: I attended the presentation and got a CD, but it's empty! What's the deal? A: It's not empty, it just doesn't contain any files. No, seriously. It has a BootRootKit boot sector, which is of course "below" the ISO-9660 file system, so it wasn't necessary to put any files on the disc. If you don't believe me, try booting from it and see if the nefarious "blue smiley" appears in the upper-left corner. Then try sending yourself the demrsod2.bin sample packet with "nc -u", but save your work first. Or rip the CD back into an ISO file and inspect the contents. Oh, and thanks for checking out our talk! =) [FEEDBACK] Please send questions, comments, and anything else eEye BootRoot-related to {dsoeder,rpermeh} at eeye.com. ************************************************* Detection of the image file was spotty at Virus Total. Eleven of the twenty four products alerted, at least in some fashion, but only five produced identification. I haven't though installed the thing on some drive to see which av alert on the Trojanised boot sector during a "formal" scan. Is the image file, as such, dangerous? Could some Trojan installer package manage to copy the image to the boot sector of a active hard drive under certain conditions? Art http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg |
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On that special day, Art, (null@zilch.com) said...
> Is the image file, as such, dangerous? Not, as long as it hasn't been put on a floppy disk or CD, and a computer BOOTED from said data storage. > Could some Trojan installer > package manage to copy the image to the boot sector of a active > hard drive under certain conditions? From inside a running OS? I hope XP won't allow for such an action. However, if the machine is started from another device (removable disk), it might happen, as XP doesn't really have the sole control over the boot sequence. I would not run a computer on the net, that has been started with eEye BootRoot. Theoretically, one of the incoming packets might command, that the start disk be modified and now contains an fdisk and sys command, that does modify the hard disk's MBR, followed by a reboot command. The machine gets rebooted, and if you don't remove the floppy disk in time, you're caught. Gabriele Neukam Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de -- Ah, Information. A property, too valuable these days, to give it away, just so, at no cost. |
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Art wrote:
> A tidbit for the Rootkit discussion pot. I recently downloaded some > rootkit related programs from rootkit.com, including one rootkit.com was founded by greg hoglund who happens to be a champion of the 'rootkits are for hiding things' camp... as such there's a lot from rootkit.com that i disagree with... -- "it's not the right time to be sober now the idiots have taken over spreading like a social cancer, is there an answer?" |
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:53:12 +0100, Gabriele Neukam
<Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de> wrote: >On that special day, Art, (null@zilch.com) said... > >> Is the image file, as such, dangerous? > >Not, as long as it hasn't been put on a floppy disk or CD, and a >computer BOOTED from said data storage. I know, which is why I asked the question. Why should av alert on the supposedly harmless image file? It isn't harmless though if it's accompanied by a Trojan that copies the image to removeable media boot sectors. So I suppose there's some good reason for alerting on it. I Trojanised a diskette with the boot sector image, and KAV 3.5 alerts as Backdoor.Boot.Dins.a McAfee command line scanners and F-Prot for DOS do not alert. Neither does KAVDOS32 for some odd reason. This is the first time I've run across a discrepancy in detection between KAVDOS32 and KAV version 3.5. I'll probably pursue this with other scanners and Trojanised disks. Without av alerting on Trojanised disks, this thing could cause a helluva difficult situation. Art http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg |
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