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Old 10-03-2006, 08:56 AM   #1
Bill Ridgeway
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Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows Defender
definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on "Check for
updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with definitions and
engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest signature version as being
"1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".

Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades for
over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying. It is
also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this length of time.
Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in that time or that
Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is true this product
should not be depended upon.

Any comments please?

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions


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Old 10-03-2006, 10:24 AM   #2
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Hello Bill Try the link below which should give a choice of groups(all web
based I believe)for Defender. Some have had a few probs opening the link,
though.
I'm staying with the MSAS for the moment.
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/sec...ps/default.mspx

Rgds
Antioch
"Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows Defender
> definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on "Check for
> updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with definitions and
> engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest signature version as
> being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>
> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades for
> over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying. It is
> also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this length of
> time. Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in that time or
> that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is true this
> product should not be depended upon.
>
> Any comments please?
>
> Regards.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
> Computer Solutions
>
>




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Old 10-03-2006, 10:24 AM   #3
Robert
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"Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durf0a$snd$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows Defender
> definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on "Check for
> updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with definitions and
> engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest signature version as
> being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>
> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades for
> over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying. It is
> also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this length of
> time. Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in that time or
> that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is true this
> product should not be depended upon.
>
> Any comments please?
>
> Regards.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
> Computer Solutions
>
>


Hmmm. My signature version is "1.14.1315.1 built on 3/8/2006 at 4:06AM".

Not sure what you do to fix -- might reload; also IIRC M$ has a news group
or a FAG tab on their download page that probably addresses the problem.

Robert


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Old 10-03-2006, 02:32 PM   #4
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Have you updated XP lately. I believe Defender gets updated by XP update. It
is updated every Tuesday by Microsoft.


"Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durf0a$snd$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows Defender
> definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on "Check for
> updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with definitions and
> engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest signature version as
> being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>
> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades for
> over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying. It is
> also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this length of
> time. Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in that time or
> that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is true this
> product should not be depended upon.
>
> Any comments please?
>
> Regards.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
> Computer Solutions
>
>



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Old 10-03-2006, 03:51 PM   #5
Dennis Marks
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They seem to be updating it every couple of days lately. Just had one today.

"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
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> Have you updated XP lately. I believe Defender gets updated by XP update.
> It is updated every Tuesday by Microsoft.
>
>
> "Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:durf0a$snd$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows Defender
>> definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on "Check for
>> updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with definitions and
>> engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest signature version as
>> being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>>
>> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades
>> for over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying. It
>> is also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this length of
>> time. Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in that time or
>> that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is true this
>> product should not be depended upon.
>>
>> Any comments please?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Bill Ridgeway
>> Computer Solutions
>>
>>

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Old 10-03-2006, 04:21 PM   #6
Bill Ridgeway
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Thanks Woody and others.

Yes, I updated XP on 14/02 (patch Tuesday). However, I took your advice
and went into Microsoft Update and found an update to Windows Defender under
the 'Custom' / 'Optional' section. I would have thought that something as
important as Anti-Spyware would have been found in the 'Express' / 'High
Priority' section. Anyway having found and (supposedly) installed it and
re-booted it still insists that the previous version is the latest (a
blatant lie) and is over 15 days old (at least that is correct).

The plot thickens. I could, of course, re-install WD but I'm loosing
patience and confidence in it. This sort of software is, more than most,
something which needs to be trusted to work properly.

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway
Computer Solutions

"Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
news:L5gQf.57769$dW3.4256@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
> Have you updated XP lately. I believe Defender gets updated by XP update.
> It is updated every Tuesday by Microsoft.
>
>
> "Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:durf0a$snd$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows Defender
>> definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on "Check for
>> updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with definitions and
>> engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest signature version as
>> being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>>
>> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades
>> for over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying. It
>> is also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this length of
>> time. Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in that time or
>> that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is true this
>> product should not be depended upon.
>>
>> Any comments please?
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Bill Ridgeway
>> Computer Solutions
>>
>>

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Old 10-03-2006, 06:24 PM   #7
Dennis Marks
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The updates are critical updates. Just received one today.

"Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Thanks Woody and others.
>
> Yes, I updated XP on 14/02 (patch Tuesday). However, I took your advice
> and went into Microsoft Update and found an update to Windows Defender
> under the 'Custom' / 'Optional' section. I would have thought that
> something as important as Anti-Spyware would have been found in the
> 'Express' / 'High Priority' section. Anyway having found and (supposedly)
> installed it and re-booted it still insists that the previous version is
> the latest (a blatant lie) and is over 15 days old (at least that is
> correct).
>
> The plot thickens. I could, of course, re-install WD but I'm loosing
> patience and confidence in it. This sort of software is, more than most,
> something which needs to be trusted to work properly.
>
> Regards.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
> Computer Solutions
>
> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> news:L5gQf.57769$dW3.4256@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>> Have you updated XP lately. I believe Defender gets updated by XP update.
>> It is updated every Tuesday by Microsoft.
>>
>>
>> "Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:durf0a$snd$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows Defender
>>> definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on "Check
>>> for updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with definitions
>>> and engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest signature version
>>> as being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>>>
>>> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades
>>> for over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying.
>>> It is also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this length
>>> of time. Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in that time
>>> or that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is true this
>>> product should not be depended upon.
>>>
>>> Any comments please?
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Bill Ridgeway
>>> Computer Solutions
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Old 10-03-2006, 06:46 PM   #8
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> The plot thickens. I could, of course, re-install WD but I'm loosing
> patience and confidence in it. This sort of software is, more than most,
> something which needs to be trusted to work properly.


Another fine Microsoft product.

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Old 10-03-2006, 08:04 PM   #9
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Hi Dennis
What are they saying about it in the community/discussion group about these
annoying little problems
Antioch
"Dennis Marks" <denmarks@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The updates are critical updates. Just received one today.
>
> "Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dus92g$o35$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Thanks Woody and others.
>>
>> Yes, I updated XP on 14/02 (patch Tuesday). However, I took your advice
>> and went into Microsoft Update and found an update to Windows Defender
>> under the 'Custom' / 'Optional' section. I would have thought that
>> something as important as Anti-Spyware would have been found in the
>> 'Express' / 'High Priority' section. Anyway having found and
>> (supposedly) installed it and re-booted it still insists that the
>> previous version is the latest (a blatant lie) and is over 15 days old
>> (at least that is correct).
>>
>> The plot thickens. I could, of course, re-install WD but I'm loosing
>> patience and confidence in it. This sort of software is, more than most,
>> something which needs to be trusted to work properly.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Bill Ridgeway
>> Computer Solutions
>>
>> "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
>> news:L5gQf.57769$dW3.4256@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
>>> Have you updated XP lately. I believe Defender gets updated by XP
>>> update. It is updated every Tuesday by Microsoft.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:durf0a$snd$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows
>>>> Defender definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click on
>>>> "Check for updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with
>>>> definitions and engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest
>>>> signature version as being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>>>>
>>>> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any upgrades
>>>> for over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is worrying.
>>>> It is also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades for this
>>>> length of time. Is this because there haven't been any new spyware in
>>>> that time or that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If the latter is
>>>> true this product should not be depended upon.
>>>>
>>>> Any comments please?
>>>>
>>>> Regards.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Ridgeway
>>>> Computer Solutions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

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Old 10-03-2006, 08:26 PM   #10
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
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"Bill Ridgeway" <info@1001solutions.co.uk> wrote in message
news:durf0a$snd$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk
> Windows Defender is showing a red flag and the message "Windows
> Defender definitions haven't been updated in 14 days". When I click
> on "Check for updates" it shows "Windows Defender is up-to-date with
> definitions and engine upgrades". Indeed it does show the latest
> signature version as being "1.13.1282.6 built on 23/02/2006 at 11:01".
>
> Both these statements could be true if there haven't been any
> upgrades for over 14 days. The apparently conflicting statements is
> worrying. It is also worrying that there haven't been any upgrades
> for this length of time. Is this because there haven't been any new
> spyware in that time or that Microsoft is updating sporadically? If
> the latter is true this product should not be depended upon.
>
> Any comments please?
>
> Regards.
>
> Bill Ridgeway
> Computer Solutions


At this time, support for the beta version of Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware
is being provided through the following Microsoft newsgroups. You'll find
the Windows Defender experts there.

- microsoft.private.security.spyware.announcements
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.appcompat
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.general
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.install
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.networking
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.signatures
- microsoft.private.security.spyware.onlinecommunity

These newsgroups can be accessed via NNTP or HTTP.

To access these newsgroups using HTTP, please go to the following location:

http://communities.microsoft.com/ne...pyware&sLCID=us

To access these newsgroups using NNTP, please use the following information
for your NNTP client (such as Microsoft Outlook Express):

- NNTP Server: privatenews.microsoft.com
- Account name: privatenews\spyware
- Password: spyware

NOTE: No password will be required via the HTTP link

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
Please respond in Newsgroup. Do not send email
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