Video Out

Does the standard video have a composite video out? I believe you need
a special DB connector with an RCA jack on one end.

If so, can you play DVDs on your computer and view them with an
ordinary TV that has Line In? I assume you can connect the Line Out
from the sound to the TV Line In with a special micro plug-to- RCA
plug.

You need more than a simple adaptor. You need a VGA to baseband video output
unit. It is a box with its own power supply. Inside, there is some complex
circuitry with its own uPC and firmware.

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JANA
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"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Does the standard video have a composite video out? I believe you need
a special DB connector with an RCA jack on one end.

If so, can you play DVDs on your computer and view them with an
ordinary TV that has Line In? I assume you can connect the Line Out
from the sound to the TV Line In with a special micro plug-to- RCA
plug.

On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:28:20 -0500, "JANA" <jana@ca.inter.net> wrote:

>You need more than a simple adaptor. You need a VGA to baseband video output
>unit. It is a box with its own power supply. Inside, there is some complex
>circuitry with its own uPC and firmware.

So it would appear to be better to get a Hauppauge card and be done
with it.

In article <43ba2e8f.57917765@news-server.houston.rr.com>, spam@uce.gov wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 00:28:20 -0500, "JANA" <jana@ca.inter.net> wrote:
>
> >You need more than a simple adaptor. You need a VGA to baseband video output
> >unit. It is a box with its own power supply. Inside, there is some complex
> >circuitry with its own uPC and firmware.
>
> So it would appear to be better to get a Hauppauge card and be done
> with it.

There is a horrid little conversion cable, that takes VGA on one
end and claims to put TV on the other end. A schematic I found
for a hobby version of the same thing, uses a series of
resistors to mix the R, G, and B together, and I think
the result is monochrome (it uses the NTSC formula and mixing
percentages). It also mixes the sync signals in, and
the sync signals have to be inverted from their normal polarity,
for the scheme to work (the video card has to be programmed
somehow to do that). I don't think that method is capable of
making a color picture, because stuff like color burst and the
like would be missing.

A second kind of device is a "scan converter". These seem to
have come down in price over the years, so are a bit more
affordable than they used to be. (It is likely cheaper to
just buy a video card that has Svideo/baseband TV-out plus
the normal VGA output, but if you really want to keep your
current VGA-only video card, or you are using a laptop that
cannot be upgraded, then a scan converter will work).

http://www.aver.com/2005home/produc.../pc_to_tv.shtml

To give you a hint as to what the scan converter is doing,
have a glance at this patent. A scan converter is much more
complicated than the horrid conversion cable mentioned above.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4658293.pdf

Note that a TV set lacks the bandwidth to display text properly.
If you just want to watch movies, it'll be fine. But if the
plan is to look at text documents on the TV, you'll get a
headache in no time.

There are plenty of video cards out there, that have a TV-out
connector. The one in the following picture, has a DIN connector
in the middle of the faceplate. A conversion connector or
conversion cable is used to deliver either a composite signal
(RCA connector) or a Svideo signal (the one with the four pins,
chrominance, luminance, GND, GND). If you buy a new video card
that has TV-out, make sure the retail package includes the
necessary adapters. Having to buy adapters later can be
expensive.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowI...-164-014-01.JPG

And if the TV has neither composite (RCA jack) nor the four pin
Svideo, then you'll need an RF modulator to broadcast the output
of the scan converter, to TV channel 3 or 4. That is how devices
like the Nintendo used to do it. If that is the kind of TV
you plan on using, I'd give up on the concept completely :-)

HTH,
Paul

"Paul" >
> And if the TV has neither composite (RCA jack) nor the four pin
> Svideo, then you'll need an RF modulator to broadcast the output
> of the scan converter, to TV channel 3 or 4. That is how devices
> like the Nintendo used to do it. If that is the kind of TV
> you plan on using, I'd give up on the concept completely :-)

I used an old VCR to do that; composite on computer out to VCR, VCR RF out
to TV RF in. Worked great, as the TV is too far to run a composite cable.

Jon

In article <420bk3F1g6s8jU1@individual.net>, "Jon Danniken"
<jonREMOVETHISdanniken@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Paul" >
> > And if the TV has neither composite (RCA jack) nor the four pin
> > Svideo, then you'll need an RF modulator to broadcast the output
> > of the scan converter, to TV channel 3 or 4. That is how devices
> > like the Nintendo used to do it. If that is the kind of TV
> > you plan on using, I'd give up on the concept completely :-)
>
> I used an old VCR to do that; composite on computer out to VCR, VCR RF out
> to TV RF in. Worked great, as the TV is too far to run a composite cable.
>
> Jon

Does it work well at higher than 640x480 ? I'd expect the RF
modulator wouldn't make text display very clearly.

Paul

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 01:31:45 GMT, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:

>> I used an old VCR to do that; composite on computer out to VCR, VCR RF out
>> to TV RF in. Worked great, as the TV is too far to run a composite cable.

That's what I recall doing years ago. I had a special VGA connector
with an RCA jack.

>Does it work well at higher than 640x480 ? I'd expect the RF
>modulator wouldn't make text display very clearly.

What I am considering is playing avi files into the TV instead of
having to convert to DVD.

Of course if I build a PC-based DVR I would need a Hauppauge TV
capture card, which I assume has composite out already onboard.


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In article <43bbd50d.3321359@news-server.houston.rr.com>, spam@uce.gov wrote:

> On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 01:31:45 GMT, nospam@needed.com (Paul) wrote:
>
> >> I used an old VCR to do that; composite on computer out to VCR, VCR RF out
> >> to TV RF in. Worked great, as the TV is too far to run a composite cable.
>
> That's what I recall doing years ago. I had a special VGA connector
> with an RCA jack.
>
> >Does it work well at higher than 640x480 ? I'd expect the RF
> >modulator wouldn't make text display very clearly.
>
> What I am considering is playing avi files into the TV instead of
> having to convert to DVD.
>
> Of course if I build a PC-based DVR I would need a Hauppauge TV
> capture card, which I assume has composite out already onboard.

I didn't know TV cards could have an output like that,
but there it is. (My old BT878 based card doesn't.)

"Hauppauge WinTV PVR 350"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16815116609

"Video outputs: S-Video and composite. SCART in Europe
Audio output: left and right audio connectors (RCA jacks)"

Ya learn something new every day. I thought it used the
video card's output.

<<snip>>

Paul