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Old 20-12-2005, 09:15 PM   #1
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Painter 25, from http://www.jansfreeware.com/
is a very good paint program, in the same class as
Pixia. Small and quick like Pixia, and has a full
range of paint tools.

I think it is freeware, but not sure about it.
Works well in win98se.


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Old 21-12-2005, 10:32 AM   #2
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"Roger Johansson" <roger4911@gmail.com> wrote:

> Painter 25, new paintprogram


10-July-2004! Is that new?

> Painter 25, from http://www.jansfreeware.com/


> I think it is freeware, but not sure about it.


See domain name.

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Old 22-12-2005, 04:01 AM   #3
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S.O. Meone escreveu:
> "Roger Johansson" <roger4911@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Painter 25, new paintprogram

>
> 10-July-2004! Is that new?
>
> > Painter 25, from http://www.jansfreeware.com/

>
> > I think it is freeware, but not sure about it.

>
> See domain name.
>
> S.O. Meone


I tried this program.

Looks good, but the Undo function is broken (at least here: it destroys
the image instead of undoing), the help file is a joke, and seems that
it tries to use a custom theme on its window.


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Old 22-12-2005, 04:35 AM   #4
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Renan wrote:

> I tried this program.
>
> Looks good, but the Undo function is broken (at least here: it destroys
> the image instead of undoing),


I have no problems with the undo function, except that
it is limited to a certain number of undo's.
Okay, it is a little buggy, but it works most of the time.

> the help file is a joke, and seems that
> it tries to use a custom theme on its window.


The help file works fine for me. I cannot understand that
you have problems with functions that work for me.

The program is a little buggy, but usable.
I tried it out for half an hour and it looks good to me.

By choosing spray can and adjusting color density and
step size you can lay on very thin layers of color.


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Old 22-12-2005, 05:28 AM   #5
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Roger Johansson escreveu:

> I have no problems with the undo function, except that
> it is limited to a certain number of undo's.
> Okay, it is a little buggy, but it works most of the time.


I didn't try the program deeply.

> > the help file is a joke, and seems that
> > it tries to use a custom theme on its window.

>
> The help file works fine for me. I cannot understand that
> you have problems with functions that work for me.


I think it is PEBKAC (Problem exists between keyboard and chair) here.

> The program is a little buggy, but usable.
> I tried it out for half an hour and it looks good to me.
>
> By choosing spray can and adjusting color density and
> step size you can lay on very thin layers of color.


I will still need to test the program "in depth".

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Old 22-12-2005, 01:58 PM   #6
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Renan wrote:

> > The program is a little buggy, but usable.
> > I tried it out for half an hour and it looks good to me.
> >
> > By choosing spray can and adjusting color density and
> > step size you can lay on very thin layers of color.


> I will still need to test the program "in depth".


Please do, and tell us about it.

It is an interesting alternative to Pixia.
It has no layers like Pixia has, but it has another strange system for
adding objects, a little like a program called Eve.
(Eve is a freeware prog for creating illustrations, object editor,
is working great but crippled by lousy export possibilities.)

The undo function seems to work like a stack of earlier versions, maybe
seven versions are saved. If you undo more than seven stages you get
back to the last version again. That is no problem as long as the user
understands that he can only use undo for maximum 7 steps back. Eight
clicks on the undo icon causes the same result as one click.

This is actually a feature, I just realized, because there is no
"redo", so if you are unsure what to "undo" you can step through the
last 7 versions over and over again, and you can choose which version
you want to continue with.


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Old 22-12-2005, 02:44 PM   #7
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"Roger Johansson" <roger4911@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1135113323.232515.285010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

> Painter 25, from http://www.jansfreeware.com/
> is a very good paint program, in the same class as
> Pixia. Small and quick like Pixia, and has a full
> range of paint tools.
>
> I think it is freeware, but not sure about it.
> Works well in win98se.


It's freeware, it's nice, but in my opinion it comes nowhere near
Photofiltre ( www.photofiltre.com ).


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Old 23-12-2005, 02:33 AM   #8
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At date Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:44:00 -0000, Azzman (me@privacy.net) wrote
in article <11qletgpidqmcaf@corp.supernews.com>, for newsgroup
alt.comp.freeware:

> It's freeware, it's nice, but in my opinion it comes nowhere near
> Photofiltre ( www.photofiltre.com ).


I agree. For complex image works, GIMP is the "800-pound gorilla" of
graphics, but for small works, nothing comes near PhotoFiltre.

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Old 23-12-2005, 04:19 AM   #9
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Renan wrote:

> > It's freeware, it's nice, but in my opinion it comes nowhere near
> > Photofiltre ( www.photofiltre.com ).


> I agree. For complex image works, GIMP is the "800-pound gorilla" of
> graphics, but for small works, nothing comes near PhotoFiltre.


Are you two sure you are really talking about a paint program?
Photofiltre is great for photo processing and image effects, but hardly

a paint program. Its brushes are rudimentary and there are no layers.
As a paint program Pixia is far ahead of Photofiltre.

Gimp and Photoshop are the giants which can afford to be best both in
the paint section and the picture processing section, but who wants to
have hundreds of megabytes starting up all the engines? Gimp has never
worked more that 30 seconds without crashing in my win98se computers.

Pixia is a small, quick and very capable paint program. This new prog
from Jan is a contender in the lightweight paint class, not the image
processing class, even though it has a lot of effects too.

Painter 25 does not have classical layers, but it has another feature
which can be used in a similar way for certain objects you can place
floating above the rest of the picture. Painter 25 has the same
rightclick functions as Paintshop Pro, with color picker and clone
pickup, which makes it easier to learn, if you have some experience of
PSP.


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Old 23-12-2005, 08:59 AM   #10
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In article <1135311580.936493.58690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
roger4911@gmail.com says...
> Are you two sure you are really talking about a paint program?
> Photofiltre is great for photo processing and image effects, but hardly
> a paint program...


(snip)

> ...is a contender in the lightweight paint class, not the image
> processing class...


That's a useful distinction and a good one to keep in mind when
recommending graphics software. Someone looking to do web design or
retro pixellation is going to find frustration in trying to wrangle
purely paint programs into doing what he wants, while someone wanting to
make expressive sketches will have a hard time with the "mechanical"
constraints of a typical graphic editing program.

I've been noodling a bit with ArtWeaver, a relatively new paint program:

http://www.artweaver.de/index.php?en_version

and I'll say I'm mightily impressed. It's feature-rich, with a
pleasingly simple and sensible UI. A novice could go from a cold start
to banging out creations in a single evening.
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