Need hi-res photo of Sapphire Radeon 9800pro

I was installing an arctic cooler fan on my card to replace the stock
one that froze up, and when I put everything back together the card
didn't work. I think I could have knocked one of those teeny little
resistors off the back of the card, but I can't be sure there was one
there in the first place. Even with a loupe, it's hard to tell.

So I need some help figuring out whether there should be a little
rectangular seminconductor at R137 on the back of the card, near the
lower left corner of the GPU. I've looked at manufacturers' photos
online, but they all get too grainy when I enlarge them.

I don't think the card is under warranty, and the warranty probably
doesn't include clumsy owners' mistakes anyway.

I'd also like to know whether anyone services these cards, or if the
manufacturers just replace them when they break.

Regards,
Jon

jelazar@aol.com wrote:
> I was installing an arctic cooler fan on my card to replace the stock
> one that froze up, and when I put everything back together the card
> didn't work. I think I could have knocked one of those teeny little
> resistors off the back of the card, but I can't be sure there was one
> there in the first place. Even with a loupe, it's hard to tell.
>
> So I need some help figuring out whether there should be a little
> rectangular seminconductor at R137 on the back of the card, near the
> lower left corner of the GPU. I've looked at manufacturers' photos
> online, but they all get too grainy when I enlarge them.
>
> I don't think the card is under warranty, and the warranty probably
> doesn't include clumsy owners' mistakes anyway.
>
> I'd also like to know whether anyone services these cards, or if the
> manufacturers just replace them when they break.

front:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/awards/image/media_375.jpg
back:
http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/r...o-scan-back.jpg

--
Thomas

jelazar@aol.com wrote:
> I was installing an arctic cooler fan on my card to replace the stock
> one that froze up, and when I put everything back together the card
> didn't work. I think I could have knocked one of those teeny little
> resistors off the back of the card, but I can't be sure there was one
> there in the first place. Even with a loupe, it's hard to tell.
>
> So I need some help figuring out whether there should be a little
> rectangular seminconductor at R137 on the back of the card, near the
> lower left corner of the GPU. I've looked at manufacturers' photos
> online, but they all get too grainy when I enlarge them.

On this pic I can see 137 mentioned:
http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/s...6-scan-back.jpg

And there's something rectangular close to it, but not connected to it.

The best way to find pics like this is to use Google, and to use the option
to find pictures, and select large size images ;-)
http://images.google.com/images?svn...ro+back&spell=1

--
Thomas

Thanks Thomas. I checked out the picture you sent, and looked at a few
in a Google search of my own. It sure looks like there's supposed to
be a little doodad there at R137.

Now I need to figure out what that part was, and where to get another
like it, and try to solder a replacement on. Any one have a schematic
for the board?

Jon


Thomas wrote:
> jelazar@aol.com wrote:
> > I was installing an arctic cooler fan on my card to replace the stock
> > one that froze up, and when I put everything back together the card
> > didn't work. I think I could have knocked one of those teeny little
> > resistors off the back of the card, but I can't be sure there was one
> > there in the first place. Even with a loupe, it's hard to tell.
> >
> > So I need some help figuring out whether there should be a little
> > rectangular seminconductor at R137 on the back of the card, near the
> > lower left corner of the GPU. I've looked at manufacturers' photos
> > online, but they all get too grainy when I enlarge them.
>
> On this pic I can see 137 mentioned:
> http://www.ixbt.com/video2/images/s...6-scan-back.jpg
>
> And there's something rectangular close to it, but not connected to it.
>
> The best way to find pics like this is to use Google, and to use the option
> to find pictures, and select large size images ;-)
> http://images.google.com/images?svn...ro+back&spell=1
>
> --
> Thomas

To make matters more interesting, there are at least two versions of the
Sapphire 9800Pro. The early one is in the two pictures Thomas linked. The
revised one uses the 9800XT PCB, identifiable with a very compact blue VGA
connector. Be sure you are looking at the correct image.

If there's a chance the component was missing in the first place, you can
try running the card as-is. Once I knocked out two capacitors near the AGP
connector on my 9800Pro, and it runs just fine, even overclocking to the
same level as before.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


<jelazar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1133288861.617413.300330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks Thomas. I checked out the picture you sent, and looked at a few
> in a Google search of my own. It sure looks like there's supposed to
> be a little doodad there at R137.
>
> Now I need to figure out what that part was, and where to get another
> like it, and try to solder a replacement on. Any one have a schematic
> for the board?
>
> Jon

First,

I have tried running the card as-is, and it doesn't. In fact, that's
how I figured out there was a problem.

I also tried using the other video out connector in the hopes that the
problem would only affect one of the two connectors.

Jon


First of One wrote:
> To make matters more interesting, there are at least two versions of the
> Sapphire 9800Pro. The early one is in the two pictures Thomas linked. The
> revised one uses the 9800XT PCB, identifiable with a very compact blue VGA
> connector. Be sure you are looking at the correct image.
>
> If there's a chance the component was missing in the first place, you can
> try running the card as-is. Once I knocked out two capacitors near the AGP
> connector on my 9800Pro, and it runs just fine, even overclocking to the
> same level as before.
>
> --
> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>
>
> <jelazar@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1133288861.617413.300330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> > Thanks Thomas. I checked out the picture you sent, and looked at a few
> > in a Google search of my own. It sure looks like there's supposed to
> > be a little doodad there at R137.
> >
> > Now I need to figure out what that part was, and where to get another
> > like it, and try to solder a replacement on. Any one have a schematic
> > for the board?
> >
> > Jon