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Old 26-09-2005, 04:08 AM   #1
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I know my PC is clean of viruses & spyware. I've even tried this on some
virgin installs of WinXP SP2. and, I even tried it with other PCs that have
antispyware and antivirus installed and hasn't detected any malware.

I only use IE's own Pop-up Blocker. I don't use any 3rd party Toolbars w/
built-in pop-up blockers.

for the most part (over 75% of the time), I get 1 pop-up that manages to
bypass my "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level setting, when I visit
Dilbert.com

is it just me? can someone else try it?

is it some sophisticated JavaScript that's been designed to bypass IE's own
"High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level?

note: I don't get the pop-up with Firefox & Opera
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Old 26-09-2005, 10:23 AM   #2
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Not all popup blocker are the same. You can go to www.popuptest.com to see
how the popups in question are circumventing your blocker.
The MSN toolbar has a listing of allowed sites for popups, so you may want
to check those settings first.
"Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I know my PC is clean of viruses & spyware. I've even tried this on some
> virgin installs of WinXP SP2. and, I even tried it with other PCs that

have
> antispyware and antivirus installed and hasn't detected any malware.
>
> I only use IE's own Pop-up Blocker. I don't use any 3rd party Toolbars w/
> built-in pop-up blockers.
>
> for the most part (over 75% of the time), I get 1 pop-up that manages to
> bypass my "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level setting, when I visit
> Dilbert.com
>
> is it just me? can someone else try it?
>
> is it some sophisticated JavaScript that's been designed to bypass IE's

own
> "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level?
>
> note: I don't get the pop-up with Firefox & Opera



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Old 26-09-2005, 11:57 AM   #3
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"Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:97901CC7-C651-4E80-A721-96882EE2E580@microsoft.com
> I know my PC is clean of viruses & spyware. I've even tried this on
> some virgin installs of WinXP SP2. and, I even tried it with other
> PCs that have antispyware and antivirus installed and hasn't detected
> any malware.
>
> I only use IE's own Pop-up Blocker. I don't use any 3rd party
> Toolbars w/ built-in pop-up blockers.
>
> for the most part (over 75% of the time), I get 1 pop-up that manages
> to bypass my "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level setting, when I
> visit Dilbert.com
>
> is it just me? can someone else try it?
>
> is it some sophisticated JavaScript that's been designed to bypass
> IE's own "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level?
>
> note: I don't get the pop-up with Firefox & Opera


IE blocks the popup here. I have it set on Medium. No other browsers on
this machine and I'm not at home to check my other machines.

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Old 26-09-2005, 12:23 PM   #4
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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:97901CC7-C651-4E80-A721-96882EE2E580@microsoft.com
>> I know my PC is clean of viruses & spyware. I've even tried this on
>> some virgin installs of WinXP SP2. and, I even tried it with other
>> PCs that have antispyware and antivirus installed and hasn't detected
>> any malware.
>>
>> I only use IE's own Pop-up Blocker. I don't use any 3rd party
>> Toolbars w/ built-in pop-up blockers.
>>
>> for the most part (over 75% of the time), I get 1 pop-up that manages
>> to bypass my "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level setting, when I
>> visit Dilbert.com
>>
>> is it just me? can someone else try it?
>>
>> is it some sophisticated JavaScript that's been designed to bypass
>> IE's own "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level?
>>
>> note: I don't get the pop-up with Firefox & Opera

>
> IE blocks the popup here. I have it set on Medium. No other
> browsers on this machine and I'm not at home to check my other
> machines.


I was wrong. There was a pop-under window.

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Old 26-09-2005, 04:25 PM   #5
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hi Rob!

thanks for informing me about popuptest.com! it'll prove to be a valuable
pop-up tester! HOWEVER, the only time my IE's (I don't use MSN) Pop-up
Blocker failed was with the 'Flash' like animated pop-ups (built in the page)
(e.g. floating, dropdown, sticky, etc.) and not the pop-ups that open new
windows. which I've already expected.

I believe that Dilbert.com has some clever JavaScript that manages to bypass
IE's own Pop-up Blocker at its highest settings. I ONLY use IE's Pop-up
Blocker. I don't use MSN's nor any other 3rd-party pop-up blocker.


"Rob Parsons" wrote:

> Not all popup blocker are the same. You can go to www.popuptest.com to see
> how the popups in question are circumventing your blocker.
> The MSN toolbar has a listing of allowed sites for popups, so you may want
> to check those settings first.
> "Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:97901CC7-C651-4E80-A721-96882EE2E580@microsoft.com...
> > I know my PC is clean of viruses & spyware. I've even tried this on some
> > virgin installs of WinXP SP2. and, I even tried it with other PCs that

> have
> > antispyware and antivirus installed and hasn't detected any malware.
> >
> > I only use IE's own Pop-up Blocker. I don't use any 3rd party Toolbars w/
> > built-in pop-up blockers.
> >
> > for the most part (over 75% of the time), I get 1 pop-up that manages to
> > bypass my "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level setting, when I visit
> > Dilbert.com
> >
> > is it just me? can someone else try it?
> >
> > is it some sophisticated JavaScript that's been designed to bypass IE's

> own
> > "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level?
> >
> > note: I don't get the pop-up with Firefox & Opera

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Old 26-09-2005, 04:29 PM   #6
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"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:

> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" <franksaunders@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:%23Ku9ckowFHA.700@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl
> > "Abraxias" <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:97901CC7-C651-4E80-A721-96882EE2E580@microsoft.com
> >> I know my PC is clean of viruses & spyware. I've even tried this on
> >> some virgin installs of WinXP SP2. and, I even tried it with other
> >> PCs that have antispyware and antivirus installed and hasn't detected
> >> any malware.
> >>
> >> I only use IE's own Pop-up Blocker. I don't use any 3rd party
> >> Toolbars w/ built-in pop-up blockers.
> >>
> >> for the most part (over 75% of the time), I get 1 pop-up that manages
> >> to bypass my "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level setting, when I
> >> visit Dilbert.com
> >>
> >> is it just me? can someone else try it?
> >>
> >> is it some sophisticated JavaScript that's been designed to bypass
> >> IE's own "High: Block all pop-ups" Filter Level?
> >>
> >> note: I don't get the pop-up with Firefox & Opera

> >
> > IE blocks the popup here. I have it set on Medium. No other
> > browsers on this machine and I'm not at home to check my other
> > machines.

>
> I was wrong. There was a pop-under window.
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE
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> http://www.fjsmjs.com
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then, it's not me. this makes me feel just a little bit better.

any reasons for how it manages to bypass IE's Pop-up Blocker?

is it a clever JavaScript designed to bypass even the highest settings on
IE's Pop-up Blocker?
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Old 26-09-2005, 05:47 PM   #7
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Abraxias <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:


>> > IE blocks the popup here. I have it set on Medium. No other
>> > browsers on this machine and I'm not at home to check my other
>> > machines.

>>
>> I was wrong. There was a pop-under window.
>>


> then, it's not me. this makes me feel just a little bit better.
> any reasons for how it manages to bypass IE's Pop-up Blocker?


> is it a clever JavaScript designed to bypass even the highest settings on
> IE's Pop-up Blocker?


I don't get a popup when I go there. Could it be because I have the
originating site in the the Restricted Sites zone?

According to IE, these sites had content on that page:
http://a.tribalfusion.com
http://c4.maxserving.com
http://media.fastclick.net


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Old 26-09-2005, 06:27 PM   #8
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"Gary Smith" wrote:

> Abraxias <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:

>
> >> > IE blocks the popup here. I have it set on Medium. No other
> >> > browsers on this machine and I'm not at home to check my other
> >> > machines.
> >>
> >> I was wrong. There was a pop-under window.
> >>

>
> > then, it's not me. this makes me feel just a little bit better.
> > any reasons for how it manages to bypass IE's Pop-up Blocker?

>
> > is it a clever JavaScript designed to bypass even the highest settings on
> > IE's Pop-up Blocker?

>
> I don't get a popup when I go there. Could it be because I have the
> originating site in the the Restricted Sites zone?
>
> According to IE, these sites had content on that page:
> http://a.tribalfusion.com
> http://c4.maxserving.com
> http://media.fastclick.net
>
>
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> Gary L. Smith
> Columbus, Ohio


hi Gary,

you have to have your JavaScript "on". I believe that the "Restricted
Sites" zone has it off, by default.
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Old 27-09-2005, 06:02 AM   #9
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Abraxias <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> "Gary Smith" wrote:


> > Abraxias <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:

> >
> > >> > IE blocks the popup here. I have it set on Medium. No other
> > >> > browsers on this machine and I'm not at home to check my other
> > >> > machines.
> > >>
> > >> I was wrong. There was a pop-under window.
> > >>

> >
> > > then, it's not me. this makes me feel just a little bit better.
> > > any reasons for how it manages to bypass IE's Pop-up Blocker?

> >
> > > is it a clever JavaScript designed to bypass even the highest settings on
> > > IE's Pop-up Blocker?

> >
> > I don't get a popup when I go there. Could it be because I have the
> > originating site in the the Restricted Sites zone?
> >
> > According to IE, these sites had content on that page:
> > http://a.tribalfusion.com
> > http://c4.maxserving.com
> > http://media.fastclick.net


> you have to have your JavaScript "on". I believe that the "Restricted
> Sites" zone has it off, by default.


Okay, but Dilbert.com itself isn't in the Restricted Sites zone. If I
turn off JavaScript in the Internet Zone, I get the page without ads
(cool!) and without popups. No matter what configuration changes I make,
I don't get popups. This is a Good Thing, but I wish I understood why
it's happening.

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Old 27-09-2005, 06:37 AM   #10
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"Gary Smith" wrote:

> Abraxias <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > "Gary Smith" wrote:

>
> > > Abraxias <Abraxias@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > > "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote:
> > >
> > > >> > IE blocks the popup here. I have it set on Medium. No other
> > > >> > browsers on this machine and I'm not at home to check my other
> > > >> > machines.
> > > >>
> > > >> I was wrong. There was a pop-under window.
> > > >>
> > >
> > > > then, it's not me. this makes me feel just a little bit better.
> > > > any reasons for how it manages to bypass IE's Pop-up Blocker?
> > >
> > > > is it a clever JavaScript designed to bypass even the highest settings on
> > > > IE's Pop-up Blocker?
> > >
> > > I don't get a popup when I go there. Could it be because I have the
> > > originating site in the the Restricted Sites zone?
> > >
> > > According to IE, these sites had content on that page:
> > > http://a.tribalfusion.com
> > > http://c4.maxserving.com
> > > http://media.fastclick.net

>
> > you have to have your JavaScript "on". I believe that the "Restricted
> > Sites" zone has it off, by default.

>
> Okay, but Dilbert.com itself isn't in the Restricted Sites zone. If I
> turn off JavaScript in the Internet Zone, I get the page without ads
> (cool!) and without popups. No matter what configuration changes I make,
> I don't get popups. This is a Good Thing, but I wish I understood why
> it's happening.
>
> --
> Gary L. Smith
> Columbus, Ohio


so, you don't get ANY pop-ups with Dilbert.com, even if your IE's pop-up
blocker is "off" & your JavaScript "on"? do you use any 3rd-party pop-up
blocker {including 3rd-party toolbars with built-in pop-up blocker (e.g.
Google Toolbar)}? or have you previously installed ANY 3rd-party pop-up
blocker?
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