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13-09-2005, 09:36 PM
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My page looks good on my computer but not on others!
'New to Front Page', and know just enough to be dangerous!!
My first website: www.lookoutmountainlandtrust.org. Started with a web template purchased from PixilMill, but I think I messed it(css) up as some things dont show up - like the navigation menu. It looks good on my screen, but not on other computers. (too large) Had to put banner pictures on each page, thought I only had to do this on the index? I dont know HMTL - Is there hope for me and my website? Thanks TNMarme |
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14-09-2005, 08:24 AM
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Re: My page looks good on my computer but not on others!
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:36:46 -0700, "TNMarme"
<TNMarme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >'New to Front Page', and know just enough to be dangerous!! >My first website: www.lookoutmountainlandtrust.org. >Started with a web template purchased from PixilMill, but I think I messed >it(css) up as some things dont show up - like the navigation menu. >It looks good on my screen, but not on other computers. (too large) >Had to put banner pictures on each page, thought I only had to do this on >the index? >I dont know HMTL - Is there hope for me and my website? There's *always* hope! But you're going to have to do some work, AND learn a little more HTML along the way. 1. No sign of the nav menu anywhere, including the html source. There is probably supposed to be a script somewhere in a folder on the server (you'll have to put it there yourself) and there should be a line in the <head>...</head> section of your page telling the browser software where to look for the script. 2. Although you have specified a common font-family in <style> for the "p" class, the only place this appears is in the copyright statement at the foot of the page. Elsewhere, you have specified uncommon fonts (Bolton Sans) which most users won't have on their computers, so the browser doesn't know how to display the text in the elaborate fabric-patterned box. So it defaults to Times Roman (usually). 3. The marquee at the top is 1400 pixels wide, so it will extend beyond the edge of most users' screens. 4. The marquee at the top can only be seen by users of Internet Explorer. If you really must use a marquee, you need to find one that works on other browsers. Try www.dynamicdrive.com. 5. The width of the content of the page is dictated by the combined width of the four small images. As these add up to 800+ pixels, plus their borders and the space between them, you are lumbered with a minimum page width of at least 850px. But then the images are inside a kind of picture frame with big wide borders. This makes the whole thing even wider. In fact, the width of that table is 924px. This is too wide for comfort on many users' screens. It would be a good idea to set yourself a width limit of say 720px. This is a compromise which would work for most users. So, assuming you keep the various ornate borders, you'll have to resize those four images - always resize images in an image editing program - so they will fit. Note that if they are too wide, they will extend the width of a table, even if you have given the table a width of 720px. You could try setting the images in two rows of two, which would allow you to keep them big enough to see the detail. It will all take a bit of time, but you'll get there. Keep asking the questions. fido |
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14-09-2005, 06:52 PM
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Re: My page looks good on my computer but not on others!
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:36:46 -0700, "TNMarme"
<TNMarme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >'New to Front Page', and know just enough to be dangerous!! >My first website: www.lookoutmountainlandtrust.org. >Started with a web template purchased from PixilMill, but I think I messed >it(css) up as some things dont show up - like the navigation menu. >It looks good on my screen, but not on other computers. (too large) >Had to put banner pictures on each page, thought I only had to do this on >the index? Following up my earlier reply, I see you have now reduced the width of the marquee to 800, although its border still runs out to the full width of the window. The marquee still doesn't display in the increasingly popular Firefox browser but cross-browser scripts are available that will do the same thing. It might be an idea to enclose the marquee in a table to keep it where you want it to appear. On a side note, you probably only need to type in the marquee text once. It will repeat as soon as the tail of the text has reached the left edge. This way you will avoid having those ten thousand non-breaking spaces. If you put all those spaces there in order to stop the marquee and give the eyes a rest, you might seriously consider the merit of having a marquee on the page at all. Moving on to the other pages, you have those two huge maps which are causing the pages to spread out sideways. As the maps need to be large enough to read, I'd strongly suggest placing them one above the other. The way you have them at the moment, in a table 1000px wide, they will be too wide for most users' displays, causing a horizontal scrollbar to appear. A horizontal scrollbar is bad news. There is nothing on these pages that won't fit into an overall width of 720-750px, with a bit of shifting around. With this end in view, try enclosing *the whole of each page* in a table. The simplest way would be to open the page in HTML view and immediately below the <body> tag, type the following, or cut and paste from this message: <div align="center"> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="720"> <tr> <td> Then immediately above the </body> tag near the foot of the page, insert the closing tags for these four lines (in reverse order): </td> </tr> </table> </div> It will be an invisible table with no borders, no colours and no background. Your aim is now to reduce the width of ALL the other tables on the page so that they will fit inside the new table. So if your left-hand navbar is 155px wide, you've got 565px to play with. Since your widest map is 491px wide, there should be enough room for it, although you may need to reduce the width of some of the borders. There will be no room for more navigation stuff on the right, so make arrangements to have all the nav on the left or horizontally across the page. fido |
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14-09-2005, 11:51 PM
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Re: My page looks good on my computer but not on others!
"fido" wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:36:46 -0700, "TNMarme" > <TNMarme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >'New to Front Page', and know just enough to be dangerous!! > >My first website: www.lookoutmountainlandtrust.org. > >Started with a web template purchased from PixilMill, but I think I messed > >it(css) up as some things dont show up - like the navigation menu. > >It looks good on my screen, but not on other computers. (too large) > >Had to put banner pictures on each page, thought I only had to do this on > >the index? > > Following up my earlier reply, I see you have now reduced the width of > the marquee to 800, although its border still runs out to the full > width of the window. > > The marquee still doesn't display in the increasingly popular Firefox > browser but cross-browser scripts are available that will do the same > thing. It might be an idea to enclose the marquee in a table to keep > it where you want it to appear. > > On a side note, you probably only need to type in the marquee text > once. It will repeat as soon as the tail of the text has reached the > left edge. This way you will avoid having those ten thousand > non-breaking spaces. If you put all those spaces there in order to > stop the marquee and give the eyes a rest, you might seriously > consider the merit of having a marquee on the page at all. > > Moving on to the other pages, you have those two huge maps which are > causing the pages to spread out sideways. > > As the maps need to be large enough to read, I'd strongly suggest > placing them one above the other. The way you have them at the moment, > in a table 1000px wide, they will be too wide for most users' > displays, causing a horizontal scrollbar to appear. A horizontal > scrollbar is bad news. > > There is nothing on these pages that won't fit into an overall width > of 720-750px, with a bit of shifting around. > > With this end in view, try enclosing *the whole of each page* in a > table. The simplest way would be to open the page in HTML view and > immediately below the <body> tag, type the following, or cut and paste > from this message: > > <div align="center"> > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="720"> > <tr> > <td> > > Then immediately above the </body> tag near the foot of the page, > insert the closing tags for these four lines (in reverse order): > > </td> > </tr> > </table> > </div> > > It will be an invisible table with no borders, no colours and no > background. Your aim is now to reduce the width of ALL the other > tables on the page so that they will fit inside the new table. So if > your left-hand navbar is 155px wide, you've got 565px to play with. > Since your widest map is 491px wide, there should be enough room for > it, although you may need to reduce the width of some of the borders. > There will be no room for more navigation stuff on the right, so make > arrangements to have all the nav on the left or horizontally across > the page. > > fido > |
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14-09-2005, 11:54 PM
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Re: My page looks good on my computer but not on others!
Thank You Fido, I have my work cut out for me tonight. Will let you know
when it is safe to log on to the website again. TN Marme "fido" wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:36:46 -0700, "TNMarme" > <TNMarme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > >'New to Front Page', and know just enough to be dangerous!! > >My first website: www.lookoutmountainlandtrust.org. > >Started with a web template purchased from PixilMill, but I think I messed > >it(css) up as some things dont show up - like the navigation menu. > >It looks good on my screen, but not on other computers. (too large) > >Had to put banner pictures on each page, thought I only had to do this on > >the index? > > Following up my earlier reply, I see you have now reduced the width of > the marquee to 800, although its border still runs out to the full > width of the window. > > The marquee still doesn't display in the increasingly popular Firefox > browser but cross-browser scripts are available that will do the same > thing. It might be an idea to enclose the marquee in a table to keep > it where you want it to appear. > > On a side note, you probably only need to type in the marquee text > once. It will repeat as soon as the tail of the text has reached the > left edge. This way you will avoid having those ten thousand > non-breaking spaces. If you put all those spaces there in order to > stop the marquee and give the eyes a rest, you might seriously > consider the merit of having a marquee on the page at all. > > Moving on to the other pages, you have those two huge maps which are > causing the pages to spread out sideways. > > As the maps need to be large enough to read, I'd strongly suggest > placing them one above the other. The way you have them at the moment, > in a table 1000px wide, they will be too wide for most users' > displays, causing a horizontal scrollbar to appear. A horizontal > scrollbar is bad news. > > There is nothing on these pages that won't fit into an overall width > of 720-750px, with a bit of shifting around. > > With this end in view, try enclosing *the whole of each page* in a > table. The simplest way would be to open the page in HTML view and > immediately below the <body> tag, type the following, or cut and paste > from this message: > > <div align="center"> > <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="720"> > <tr> > <td> > > Then immediately above the </body> tag near the foot of the page, > insert the closing tags for these four lines (in reverse order): > > </td> > </tr> > </table> > </div> > > It will be an invisible table with no borders, no colours and no > background. Your aim is now to reduce the width of ALL the other > tables on the page so that they will fit inside the new table. So if > your left-hand navbar is 155px wide, you've got 565px to play with. > Since your widest map is 491px wide, there should be enough room for > it, although you may need to reduce the width of some of the borders. > There will be no room for more navigation stuff on the right, so make > arrangements to have all the nav on the left or horizontally across > the page. > > fido > |
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16-09-2005, 08:13 AM
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Re: My page looks good on my computer but not on others!
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:54:02 -0700, "TNMarme"
<TNMarme@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >Thank You Fido, I have my work cut out for me tonight. Will let you know >when it is safe to log on to the website again. >TN Marme Trying hard not to be discouraging because by playing with the various elements on the page and moving them around, you are finding out some of what you can achieve, and how it all works. Personally, I'd create a new table at the top of each page and then rebuild from the ground up, copying and pasting the pictures and features into the new layout. Once I'd got it looking right, I'd then delete the old lower half. That process always works for me. fido |
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