iP8500 and i9950 (i9900) borderless issues.

I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am trying to
print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this: - if it's printed
with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white gap between the edge of the
photo and the fold when the card is folded. If I print to the Epson, the
results are perfect. I have redownloaded drivers and uninstalled and
reinstalled both printers, but the problem persists. I know I'm not folding
wrong because I'm using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible!

I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running costs
down.

Any ideas, folks? All three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro SP2 box
via USB.

I don't have either of these canon printers, but I would expect that the
borderless function is basically the same as on my i960. In borderless
printing the driver slightly expands the image to print just beyond the edge
of the paper. The "overspray" is picked up by the sponge under the print
head travel area. In the driver page setup page there is a slide with which
you can control the degree of expansion of the picture. This expansion is
used to compensate for any inaccuracy in the feed mechanism that would
otherwise leave an unprinted sliver of white at one or more of the edges of
the print.

If you are trying to print one half a page in borderless mode and, after
folding it over, show a borderless image on the face of the card, you may
have to move the image slightly to what will become the back of the card
before printing. I have done this on letter size paper in photoshop without
the white edge you describe. Probably just dumb luck that it came out right
the first time! I started by creating a blank "canvas" 8.5x11 inches and
turned on the ruler and grid functions. I used the ruler to get placement
of the image at the fold and adjusted the image size to go to the three
outer edges. Borderless printing then worked out fine with the slider set
to the minimum expansion.

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
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>I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am trying to
>print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this: - if it's
>printed with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white gap between the
>edge of the photo and the fold when the card is folded. If I print to the
>Epson, the results are perfect. I have redownloaded drivers and uninstalled
>and reinstalled both printers, but the problem persists. I know I'm not
>folding wrong because I'm using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible!
>
> I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running costs
> down.
>
> Any ideas, folks? All three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro SP2 box
> via USB.
>

Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
> I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am trying to
> print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this: - if it's printed
> with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white gap between the edge of the
> photo and the fold when the card is folded. If I print to the Epson, the
> results are perfect. I have redownloaded drivers and uninstalled and
> reinstalled both printers, but the problem persists. I know I'm not folding
> wrong because I'm using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible!
>
> Any ideas, folks? All three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro SP2 box
> via USB.
>
>

I get that on both the i860 and iP5000. It appears to be a feed problem
with all Canons (I even had it on the i850). I get around this problem
when making greeting cards by having a colour border on all four sides
and a narrow one on the back of the card, adjacent to the fold area.
Now when I fold the card there is no sliver left unprinted. The tiny
band on the back is negligible. Of course, make sure you use exactly
the same shade of colour.

> I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running
> costs down.

I refill my card printing Canon i860 with bulk ink. There is no cost.
Unless you consider a dollar per cartridge fill a "cost". ;-)

-Taliesyn

Taliesyn wrote:
> Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
>> I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am
>> trying to print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this:
>> - if it's printed with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white
>> gap between the edge of the photo and the fold when the card is
>> folded. If I print to the Epson, the results are perfect. I have
>> redownloaded drivers and uninstalled and reinstalled both printers,
>> but the problem persists. I know I'm not folding wrong because I'm
>> using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible! Any ideas, folks? All
>> three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro
>> SP2 box via USB.
>>
>>
>
> I get that on both the i860 and iP5000. It appears to be a feed
> problem with all Canons (I even had it on the i850). I get around
> this problem when making greeting cards by having a colour border on
> all four sides and a narrow one on the back of the card, adjacent to
> the fold area. Now when I fold the card there is no sliver left
> unprinted. The tiny band on the back is negligible. Of course, make
> sure you use exactly the same shade of colour.
>
>> I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running
>> costs down.
>
> I refill my card printing Canon i860 with bulk ink. There is no cost.
> Unless you consider a dollar per cartridge fill a "cost". ;-)
>
> -Taliesyn

Thanks for that, Taliesyn (and way to go Canon!) trouble is this is a photo
(and a rather busy photo at that - a photo I took a bed in my garden back in
late April and is full of flowers) so a border might be a tad impossible.

I buy my tanks at £1.80 each. Damned sight cheaper than the Epson (at £5).

I'll just have to accept that Canon is crap (I bet they won't admit to it
though. I did email them about the issue, but I hardly think they're going
to admit to producing crappy printers!)

Taliesyn wrote:
> Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
>> I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am
>> trying to print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this:
>> - if it's printed with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white
>> gap between the edge of the photo and the fold when the card is
>> folded. If I print to the Epson, the results are perfect. I have
>> redownloaded drivers and uninstalled and reinstalled both printers,
>> but the problem persists. I know I'm not folding wrong because I'm
>> using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible! Any ideas, folks? All
>> three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro
>> SP2 box via USB.
>>
>>
>
> I get that on both the i860 and iP5000. It appears to be a feed
> problem with all Canons (I even had it on the i850). I get around
> this problem when making greeting cards by having a colour border on
> all four sides and a narrow one on the back of the card, adjacent to
> the fold area. Now when I fold the card there is no sliver left
> unprinted. The tiny band on the back is negligible. Of course, make
> sure you use exactly the same shade of colour.
>
>> I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running
>> costs down.
>
> I refill my card printing Canon i860 with bulk ink. There is no cost.
> Unless you consider a dollar per cartridge fill a "cost". ;-)
>
> -Taliesyn

Just thought I'd let you know what Canon had to say - typical *******s, not
admitting liability.

"Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding your Canon product. In order to
assess your query correctly, we would be very grateful if you could provide
us with some more information. Do you use genuine Canon inks? Who
manufactures the "pre-scored 210g/m² glossy photo paper" you are using?
Apart from when using this media, do both Canon printers otherwise function
normally? Please contact us again with this information. Thanks in advance."

"Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
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> Taliesyn wrote:
>> Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
>>> I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am
>>> trying to print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this:
>>> - if it's printed with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white
>>> gap between the edge of the photo and the fold when the card is
>>> folded. If I print to the Epson, the results are perfect. I have
>>> redownloaded drivers and uninstalled and reinstalled both printers,
>>> but the problem persists. I know I'm not folding wrong because I'm
>>> using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible! Any ideas, folks? All
>>> three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro
>>> SP2 box via USB.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I get that on both the i860 and iP5000. It appears to be a feed
>> problem with all Canons (I even had it on the i850). I get around
>> this problem when making greeting cards by having a colour border on
>> all four sides and a narrow one on the back of the card, adjacent to
>> the fold area. Now when I fold the card there is no sliver left
>> unprinted. The tiny band on the back is negligible. Of course, make
>> sure you use exactly the same shade of colour.
>>
>>> I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running
>>> costs down.
>>
>> I refill my card printing Canon i860 with bulk ink. There is no cost.
>> Unless you consider a dollar per cartridge fill a "cost". ;-)
>>
>> -Taliesyn
>
> Just thought I'd let you know what Canon had to say - typical *******s,
> not admitting liability.
>
> "Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding your Canon product. In order
> to assess your query correctly, we would be very grateful if you could
> provide us with some more information. Do you use genuine Canon inks? Who
> manufactures the "pre-scored 210g/m² glossy photo paper" you are using?
> Apart from when using this media, do both Canon printers otherwise
> function normally? Please contact us again with this information. Thanks
> in advance."

As if the brand of ink or manufacturer of the paper has anything to do with
the placement of the printed image on the finished result! I still think it
has to do with how the driver for borderless printing adjusts image size to
avoid any white showing at the outer edges of the print. The Epson driver
must use a different alogarithm for adjusting size and placement of the
image.
>
>

Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:

>Taliesyn wrote:
>
>
>>Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am
>>>trying to print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this:
>>>- if it's printed with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white
>>>gap between the edge of the photo and the fold when the card is
>>>folded. If I print to the Epson, the results are perfect. I have
>>>redownloaded drivers and uninstalled and reinstalled both printers,
>>>but the problem persists. I know I'm not folding wrong because I'm
>>>using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible! Any ideas, folks? All
>>>three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro
>>>SP2 box via USB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>I get that on both the i860 and iP5000. It appears to be a feed
>>problem with all Canons (I even had it on the i850). I get around
>>this problem when making greeting cards by having a colour border on
>>all four sides and a narrow one on the back of the card, adjacent to
>>the fold area. Now when I fold the card there is no sliver left
>>unprinted. The tiny band on the back is negligible. Of course, make
>>sure you use exactly the same shade of colour.
>>
>>
>>
>>>I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running
>>>costs down.
>>>
>>>
>>I refill my card printing Canon i860 with bulk ink. There is no cost.
>>Unless you consider a dollar per cartridge fill a "cost". ;-)
>>
>>-Taliesyn
>>
>>
>
>Thanks for that, Taliesyn (and way to go Canon!) trouble is this is a photo
>(and a rather busy photo at that - a photo I took a bed in my garden back in
>late April and is full of flowers) so a border might be a tad impossible.
>
>I buy my tanks at £1.80 each. Damned sight cheaper than the Epson (at £5).
>
>I'll just have to accept that Canon is crap (I bet they won't admit to it
>though. I did email them about the issue, but I hardly think they're going
>to admit to producing crappy printers!)
>
>
On the Rag Again

>
>
>

If you do not like Canon then buy an Epson.

Burt wrote:

>"Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
>news:9zewe.109$L42.99@fe07.highwinds-media.phx...
>
>
>>Taliesyn wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have three printers; the aforementioned two and an R800. I am
>>>>trying to print a card on an A4 (letter) sheet. The problem is this:
>>>>- if it's printed with either of the Canons, there is a 1mm white
>>>>gap between the edge of the photo and the fold when the card is
>>>>folded. If I print to the Epson, the results are perfect. I have
>>>>redownloaded drivers and uninstalled and reinstalled both printers,
>>>>but the problem persists. I know I'm not folding wrong because I'm
>>>>using prescored card, so it's nigh on impossible! Any ideas, folks? All
>>>>three printers hooked up to a Windoze XP Pro
>>>>SP2 box via USB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I get that on both the i860 and iP5000. It appears to be a feed
>>>problem with all Canons (I even had it on the i850). I get around
>>>this problem when making greeting cards by having a colour border on
>>>all four sides and a narrow one on the back of the card, adjacent to
>>>the fold area. Now when I fold the card there is no sliver left
>>>unprinted. The tiny band on the back is negligible. Of course, make
>>>sure you use exactly the same shade of colour.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I would prefer to use either of the Canons because it keeps running
>>>>costs down.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I refill my card printing Canon i860 with bulk ink. There is no cost.
>>>Unless you consider a dollar per cartridge fill a "cost". ;-)
>>>
>>>-Taliesyn
>>>
>>>
>>Just thought I'd let you know what Canon had to say - typical *******s,
>>not admitting liability.
>>
>>"Thank you for your recent enquiry regarding your Canon product. In order
>>to assess your query correctly, we would be very grateful if you could
>>provide us with some more information. Do you use genuine Canon inks? Who
>>manufactures the "pre-scored 210g/m² glossy photo paper" you are using?
>>Apart from when using this media, do both Canon printers otherwise
>>function normally? Please contact us again with this information. Thanks
>>in advance."
>>
>>
>
>As if the brand of ink or manufacturer of the paper has anything to do with
>the placement of the printed image on the finished result! I still think it
>has to do with how the driver for borderless printing adjusts image size to
>avoid any white showing at the outer edges of the print. The Epson driver
>must use a different alogarithm for adjusting size and placement of the
>image.
>
>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>

measekite wrote:

> If you do not like Canon then buy an Epson.

Or buy an HP.

Frank

measekite wrote:
> If you do not like Canon then buy an Epson.

Cheers for that, you top posting ****wit; if you'd read my post properly
you'd see I /have/ an Epson, or how would I know that it prints perfectly?!

Right, that's it, back in the kill-file with you - I don't know how you keep
escaping, I really don't. Must keep changing your headers.

****tard.