question about returning an inkjet printer

I ordered a Canon PIXMA ip8500 from Costco.com and received it today in
the mail. It was defective right out of the box. When I turned it on
the printer head moved to the left and started grinding. After spending
an hour running through all the typical head cleaning jazz, I called
Canon Tech Support and he told me to return it to place of purchase and
tell them it is a defective unit. My question is... I already removed
all the protective tape and plastic pieces from the ink tanks so they
will probably end up throwing them away when it arrives for servicing.

If Canon is just going to throw them away I should be able to hold on
to them for my replacement printer. I asked the Tech Support guy what
they do with these used ink tanks and he said he didn't know, that they
probably threw them away at the repair facility. He knew what I was
getting at but didn't come out and say, "yeah man, you can probably
hold on to them"

Has anyone here returned a printer without the ink tanks? What are the
chances I would be charged if the tanks aren't included?
Thanks for any experiences or advice...

Keep in mind you are not returning the printer to Canon, but to Costco.

Although often manufacturers will tell you NOT to send the accessories
back to them (Even as far as the wall wart conversion transformer,
assorted cables, manuals, etc.) I assume to save the shipping costs, and
because they replace these when they refurb the machines, I have no
idea what Canon's policy is, nor what they tell Costco to do.

In general, retailers take it seriously when they say "return the
product with ALL accessories and packing". Some will refuse the return
otherwise, some will take it off the refund value, and some will just
ignore the situation.

You could try asking Costco what their policy is regarding inkjet
returns. Don't, however, be surprised if they tell you they want
everything back. Either that, or take the risk, but don't get upset if
they reduce your refund by their value.

Art

brimac32@yahoo.com wrote:

> I ordered a Canon PIXMA ip8500 from Costco.com and received it today in
> the mail. It was defective right out of the box. When I turned it on
> the printer head moved to the left and started grinding. After spending
> an hour running through all the typical head cleaning jazz, I called
> Canon Tech Support and he told me to return it to place of purchase and
> tell them it is a defective unit. My question is... I already removed
> all the protective tape and plastic pieces from the ink tanks so they
> will probably end up throwing them away when it arrives for servicing.
>
> If Canon is just going to throw them away I should be able to hold on
> to them for my replacement printer. I asked the Tech Support guy what
> they do with these used ink tanks and he said he didn't know, that they
> probably threw them away at the repair facility. He knew what I was
> getting at but didn't come out and say, "yeah man, you can probably
> hold on to them"
>
> Has anyone here returned a printer without the ink tanks? What are the
> chances I would be charged if the tanks aren't included?
> Thanks for any experiences or advice...
>

Art,

Thanks for the advice. I will probably end up keeping the ink tanks but
will not be surprised if I am charged for them.

Even manu. ask for the ink tanks back. At the retail level they would need
them also.


<brimac32@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Art,
>
> Thanks for the advice. I will probably end up keeping the ink tanks but
> will not be surprised if I am charged for them.
>

That got me thinking safetymom...

I called Canon Support and they said they don't require the ink tanks
to be returned with the defective unit! I specifically told him that I
was returning a defective printer and did they require the opened ink
tanks to be in the box with the printer. He said no they don't.

It sounds like they would end up throwing them away anyways at the
repair facility.

Can't speak to Canon but Epson tells you to return the ink carts. They do
give you new ones.


<brimac32@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> That got me thinking safetymom...
>
> I called Canon Support and they said they don't require the ink tanks
> to be returned with the defective unit! I specifically told him that I
> was returning a defective printer and did they require the opened ink
> tanks to be in the box with the printer. He said no they don't.
>
> It sounds like they would end up throwing them away anyways at the
> repair facility.
>

brimac32@yahoo.com wrote:
> That got me thinking safetymom...
>
> I called Canon Support and they said they don't require the ink tanks
> to be returned with the defective unit! I specifically told him that I
> was returning a defective printer and did they require the opened ink
> tanks to be in the box with the printer. He said no they don't.
>
> It sounds like they would end up throwing them away anyways at the
> repair facility.
>

I know you are "Honest" and wouldn't think of trying to get some extra
ink tanks "for your trouble" during this return of product, or return of
*most* of the product..

It would seem to me that *whoever* you are returning this contraption to
is the final authority on what should or should not be included in the
return.

*Whoever* you are returning this contraption to...... which is not the
same as wohover they return this contraption to.

I suppose that I too would like to keep the inktanks "for my trouble",
but that may not be an allowed part of the return game.

JIm

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"jbuch" <jbuch@CUTHERErevealed.net> wrote in message
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> brimac32@yahoo.com wrote:
>> That got me thinking safetymom...
>>
>> I called Canon Support and they said they don't require the ink tanks
>> to be returned with the defective unit! I specifically told him that I
>> was returning a defective printer and did they require the opened ink
>> tanks to be in the box with the printer. He said no they don't.
>>
>> It sounds like they would end up throwing them away anyways at the
>> repair facility.
>>
>
> I know you are "Honest" and wouldn't think of trying to get some extra ink
> tanks "for your trouble" during this return of product, or return of
> *most* of the product..
>
> It would seem to me that *whoever* you are returning this contraption to
> is the final authority on what should or should not be included in the
> return.
>
> *Whoever* you are returning this contraption to...... which is not the
> same as wohover they return this contraption to.
>
> I suppose that I too would like to keep the inktanks "for my trouble", but
> that may not be an allowed part of the return game.
>
> JIm
>
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You will probably find Costco.com requires the ink, they may want test the
printer before they send it back to canon, if you dont suply the carts
(specialy as it a brand new printer that hasnt worked since opening) they
will say you havnt returned all parts of it and either not accept the return
till the carts sen tback or charge you for replacements

Please see my previous post stating that I called Canon Technical
support and specifically asked them if they required the ink tanks back
for the return of a defective unit. He said NO -- case-closed, I
already returned it this morning to Costco and one of the returns
employees took everything out of the box with me standing there and
didn't mention anything about the ink tanks and I got a full refund.

I can't see how that is in any way dishonest. It would have been
dishonest if I had said the ink tanks were inside the printer if asked.
But I wasn't asked anything about the ink.

When Canon gets a defective unit back I bet they will throw the ink
away and start with fresh tanks for their troubleshooting. After all
they are $12 retail per tank which means they probably cost Canon about
$4-5 (probably less) to produce.

I do not wish to make this into WW III. Omission could be a form of
dishonesty...

However:

In a perfect world you could have asked the Costco employee if there was
any problem with you keeping the inks since Canon told you they did not
need them and would only discard them anyway, and in a perfect world the
Costco guy would have stated it didn't matter to them if Canon didn't care.

We do not live in a perfect world... look what happened in the last US
and Ukrainian elections. I am not sure which one of those two is worse ;-)

Art

pscsace-e711@yahoo.com wrote:

> Please see my previous post stating that I called Canon Technical
> support and specifically asked them if they required the ink tanks back
> for the return of a defective unit. He said NO -- case-closed, I
> already returned it this morning to Costco and one of the returns
> employees took everything out of the box with me standing there and
> didn't mention anything about the ink tanks and I got a full refund.
>
> I can't see how that is in any way dishonest. It would have been
> dishonest if I had said the ink tanks were inside the printer if asked.
> But I wasn't asked anything about the ink.
>
> When Canon gets a defective unit back I bet they will throw the ink
> away and start with fresh tanks for their troubleshooting. After all
> they are $12 retail per tank which means they probably cost Canon about
> $4-5 (probably less) to produce.
>