Re: AMD Problem

"John" <vista24wd@iol.ie> wrote in message
news:bgrhpv$ph8$1@kermit.esat.net
> Hi,
> My AMD Athlon 1.7 was a bit on the noisey side so I decided
> to try to remidy the problem. I fitted an Artic Copper Silent fan
> which brought runnint temp down to a meagre 38C. However I now
> realised that the bulk of the noise was coming from the PSU (Antec
> 350w). I decided to change the PSU for a 450 low noise version.
>
> I use an Abit KR7A Raid board, with GForce 5 128m Card an 2 Maxtor 60
> HDs. I bought a Q-TEC 450w dual Fan unit and fitted it to my Windows
> XP Machine. When I tried to boot the machine it shut down after a few
> seconds. Now when I switch it on the fans rune for a moment and the
> it shuts down. I cannot see any obcious cause, all fans are running,
> and even when I replace the old PSU the machine continues to shut
> down just after pressing the start button. HAS ANYONE got any idea
> what the problem is.
>
> The shop which supplied the PSU says that XP is the problem and that
> the PSU`s wont run under XP. Sounds dodgey to me........its not even
> getting past the bios boot, before shutdown.
> Please help if you can, I am cracking up with this problem.
> John

Windows XP cannot be the problem because it doesn't even exist when you
are booting the hardware.

Do you still have the old Antec power supply? If so, feel confident
enough to remove some screws to open it up? If so, you could try
replacing the fan (should be 80mm square) with a quieter fan. I
replaced mine with a Vantec stealth fan and it got much quieter. I have
an old system so the heat output is not very high and a single-speed
stealth fan works great. However, you might want to use their
ThermoFlow 80mm fan which will up its speed as the heat goes up. Its
noise starts out at 25 dB at its minimal speed of 2000 RPM at 24 CFM and
goes up to 38 dB at its maximum speed of 3400 RPM at 42 CFM. But even
at 38 dB, that's a lot quieter than Antec's 50 dB noise (estimated) for
its constant speed fan.

The only Antec 350W power supply that I found at
http://www.antec-inc.com/pro_powerSupply.html was in their Solution
series. They do not includes its noise levels in the specifications
shown there for this unit, and probably for good reason as it is
probably a loud unit. However, they do provide a lot more specs online
at http://www.antec-inc.com/specs/sl350_spe.html than does Qtec at
http://www.qtec.info/products/product.htm?artnr=13024. Antec shows that
the combined output for +5V, +3.3V, and +12V is 330 watts so figure on
that as you max power rating (it's 482W across all outputs). According
to Tom's Hardware review of power supplies, Antec was one of those that
consistently provided its full rated power output along with a hefty
reserve when overloaded, so I'd try to go back to the Antec but with a
variable-speed temperature-controlled fan to reduce noise, and put the
QTec 450W unit in a system that doesn't max over 300W. The QTec might
look impressive with its 2 fans but that might because their unit is a
very low efficiency unit (power out versus power in) and so the
differential in wattage in and wattage out requires more fans to
dissipate the extra heat.


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Thats how I started out today Van........trying to replace the Antec fan
with a quierer unit. Unfortunatly The fan I had was a simpler unit, with no
feed back to the mobo, and it also had a different plug.This is how the
problem arose......the cmos was expecting a temperature reading which it did
not get and assumed it was a fault, so it shut the pc down. I already had
the psu open when I discovered this. I think I will ty your suggestion
tomorrow though and find a quieter fan.........The PSU is a 350w unit and
has been troublefree apart from the "bleedin racket" it makes. I preferred
the Antec other than that. Anyways I am back in action again........thanks
again for all the replies and suggestions.


"Vanguard" <rztqf6v02-nix@sneakemail-nix.com> wrote in message
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> "John" <vista24wd@iol.ie> wrote in message
> news:bgrhpv$ph8$1@kermit.esat.net
> > Hi,
> > My AMD Athlon 1.7 was a bit on the noisey side so I decided
> > to try to remidy the problem. I fitted an Artic Copper Silent fan
> > which brought runnint temp down to a meagre 38C. However I now
> > realised that the bulk of the noise was coming from the PSU (Antec