Black video on tv

Hi

I got a Radeon 9600XT. I can force detection on my tv, and get a picture,
but if I play an avi movie, the screen is black on the tv, but looks normal
on my monitor.
Display properties refuses to accept my tv (the secondary display) as my
primary monitor.
Any suggestions?
TIA

On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:37:54 +0100, "Dr.John" <pharynx@ofir.dk> wrote:

>I got a Radeon 9600XT. I can force detection on my tv, and get a picture,
>but if I play an avi movie, the screen is black on the tv, but looks normal
>on my monitor.

Enable Theater Mode in the Overlay settings (Clone mode options).

my brother often has the same problem with that. He will tune the tv to
channel 3 and it will be black and white. I tell him to go up or down a
channel and then back to channel 3. Walla, it is now in color. The tv
simply was not getting the signal correctly (from the pc) and displays
either a distorted picture or a black&white one. Also, just powering off
the tv and back on produces the same results.

to note, I always activate the 2nd monitor/tv before turning on my
television set. Otherwise, I get what your getting. Its worth looking
into.

sl
"erratic" <erratic@reply-to.address> wrote in message
news:4o6jd.13506$PT3.740456@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:37:54 +0100, "Dr.John" <pharynx@ofir.dk> wrote:
>
>>I got a Radeon 9600XT. I can force detection on my tv, and get a picture,
>>but if I play an avi movie, the screen is black on the tv, but looks
>>normal
>>on my monitor.
>
> Enable Theater Mode in the Overlay settings (Clone mode options).

This same problem with the 9600xt has been driving me insane, and i
have NO solution sofar, the ATI people are awful, and have no time to
deal with the public, as they are busy making crap software drivers
for thier next video cards im sure.

PLEASE, can someone give the correct fix, i have tryed all mentioned
suggestions, and tryed installing on 3 OS to no avail.

I swear nvidia are going to get all my money from now on, as now i
have a $300 piece of complete and utter CRAP! I will be telling every
person i know to aviod thier faulty cards/software and will be
advocating the nvidia cards instead.

in short ATI you really, really have no conception of what people
want, and you have no public relation skills, and i hope your whole
company goes under, as you are just another faceless corp that doesnt
give a damn about thier customers once you have thier hard earned cash
in your back pockets.

steve


"SL" <pillott@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<cM2dnYu41LfO0RPcRVn-hw@adelphia.com>...
> my brother often has the same problem with that. He will tune the tv to
> channel 3 and it will be black and white. I tell him to go up or down a
> channel and then back to channel 3. Walla, it is now in color. The tv
> simply was not getting the signal correctly (from the pc) and displays
> either a distorted picture or a black&white one. Also, just powering off
> the tv and back on produces the same results.
>
> to note, I always activate the 2nd monitor/tv before turning on my
> television set. Otherwise, I get what your getting. Its worth looking
> into.
>
> sl
> "erratic" <erratic@reply-to.address> wrote in message
> news:4o6jd.13506$PT3.740456@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:37:54 +0100, "Dr.John" <pharynx@ofir.dk> wrote:
> >
> >>I got a Radeon 9600XT. I can force detection on my tv, and get a picture,
> >>but if I play an avi movie, the screen is black on the tv, but looks
> >>normal
> >>on my monitor.
> >
> > Enable Theater Mode in the Overlay settings (Clone mode options).

trippy123 wrote:

> This same problem with the 9600xt has been driving me insane, and i
> have NO solution sofar, the ATI people are awful, and have no time to
> deal with the public, as they are busy making crap software drivers
> for thier next video cards im sure.
>
> PLEASE, can someone give the correct fix, i have tryed all mentioned
> suggestions, and tryed installing on 3 OS to no avail.
>
> I swear nvidia are going to get all my money from now on, as now i
> have a $300 piece of complete and utter CRAP! I will be telling every
> person i know to aviod thier faulty cards/software and will be
> advocating the nvidia cards instead.
>
> in short ATI you really, really have no conception of what people
> want, and you have no public relation skills, and i hope your whole
> company goes under, as you are just another faceless corp that doesnt
> give a damn about thier customers once you have thier hard earned cash
> in your back pockets.

Whatever problem you're seeing does not appear to be an ATI problem--every
ATI brand board that I've had with TV-out since the first generation Radeon
has had no trouble with this sort of thing. Some of the third-party boards
with ATI chips seem to have problems of this kind--for example some models
of laptop have it, but others with the same identical hardware and a
different BIOS do not.

Are you sure that the problem you're seeing is not just a broken board?



> steve
>
>
> "SL" <pillott@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:<cM2dnYu41LfO0RPcRVn-hw@adelphia.com>...
>> my brother often has the same problem with that. He will tune the tv to
>> channel 3 and it will be black and white. I tell him to go up or down a
>> channel and then back to channel 3. Walla, it is now in color. The tv
>> simply was not getting the signal correctly (from the pc) and displays
>> either a distorted picture or a black&white one. Also, just powering off
>> the tv and back on produces the same results.
>>
>> to note, I always activate the 2nd monitor/tv before turning on my
>> television set. Otherwise, I get what your getting. Its worth looking
>> into.
>>
>> sl
>> "erratic" <erratic@reply-to.address> wrote in message
>> news:4o6jd.13506$PT3.740456@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
>> > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:37:54 +0100, "Dr.John" <pharynx@ofir.dk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I got a Radeon 9600XT. I can force detection on my tv, and get a
>> >>picture, but if I play an avi movie, the screen is black on the tv, but
>> >>looks normal
>> >>on my monitor.
>> >
>> > Enable Theater Mode in the Overlay settings (Clone mode options).

--
--John
Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

"trippy123" <zelette17@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e8e81cbe.0411082209.238d7b49@posting.google.com...
> This same problem with the 9600xt has been driving me insane, and i
> have NO solution sofar, the ATI people are awful, and have no time to
> deal with the public, as they are busy making crap software drivers
> for thier next video cards im sure.
>
> PLEASE, can someone give the correct fix, i have tryed all mentioned
> suggestions, and tryed installing on 3 OS to no avail.
>
> I swear nvidia are going to get all my money from now on, as now i
> have a $300 piece of complete and utter CRAP! I will be telling every
> person i know to aviod thier faulty cards/software and will be
> advocating the nvidia cards instead.
>
> in short ATI you really, really have no conception of what people
> want, and you have no public relation skills, and i hope your whole
> company goes under, as you are just another faceless corp that doesnt
> give a damn about thier customers once you have thier hard earned cash
> in your back pockets.
>
> steve
>
>
> "SL" <pillott@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<cM2dnYu41LfO0RPcRVn-hw@adelphia.com>...
> > my brother often has the same problem with that. He will tune the tv to
> > channel 3 and it will be black and white. I tell him to go up or down a
> > channel and then back to channel 3. Walla, it is now in color. The tv
> > simply was not getting the signal correctly (from the pc) and displays
> > either a distorted picture or a black&white one. Also, just powering
off
> > the tv and back on produces the same results.
> >
> > to note, I always activate the 2nd monitor/tv before turning on my
> > television set. Otherwise, I get what your getting. Its worth looking
> > into.
> >
> > sl
> > "erratic" <erratic@reply-to.address> wrote in message
> > news:4o6jd.13506$PT3.740456@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> > > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:37:54 +0100, "Dr.John" <pharynx@ofir.dk> wrote:
> > >
> > >>I got a Radeon 9600XT. I can force detection on my tv, and get a
picture,
> > >>but if I play an avi movie, the screen is black on the tv, but looks
> > >>normal
> > >>on my monitor.
> > >
> > > Enable Theater Mode in the Overlay settings (Clone mode options).

Have you tried this with more than one TV? Are you using S-Video, composite
or have tried both? S-Video carries the brightness and color on different
pins of the connector. How long is the cable you are trying to use? Recently
someone had this problem and found the device he had attached it to needed
to have the S-Video enabled on it. Picture was B&W if not enabled.
HTH

zelette17@hotmail.com (trippy123) wrote:

>This same problem with the 9600xt has been driving me insane, and i
>have NO solution sofar, the ATI people are awful, and have no time to
>deal with the public, as they are busy making crap software drivers
>for thier next video cards im sure.
>
>PLEASE, can someone give the correct fix, i have tryed all mentioned
>suggestions, and tryed installing on 3 OS to no avail.
>
>I swear nvidia are going to get all my money from now on, as now i
>have a $300 piece of complete and utter CRAP! I will be telling every
>person i know to aviod thier faulty cards/software and will be
>advocating the nvidia cards instead.
>
>in short ATI you really, really have no conception of what people
>want, and you have no public relation skills, and i hope your whole
>company goes under, as you are just another faceless corp that doesnt
>give a damn about thier customers once you have thier hard earned cash
>in your back pockets.
>
>steve
>
>
>"SL" <pillott@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<cM2dnYu41LfO0RPcRVn-hw@adelphia.com>...
>> my brother often has the same problem with that. He will tune the tv to
>> channel 3 and it will be black and white. I tell him to go up or down a
>> channel and then back to channel 3. Walla, it is now in color. The tv
>> simply was not getting the signal correctly (from the pc) and displays
>> either a distorted picture or a black&white one. Also, just powering off
>> the tv and back on produces the same results.
>>
>> to note, I always activate the 2nd monitor/tv before turning on my
>> television set. Otherwise, I get what your getting. Its worth looking
>> into.
>>
>> sl
>> "erratic" <erratic@reply-to.address> wrote in message
>> news:4o6jd.13506$PT3.740456@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
>> > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:37:54 +0100, "Dr.John" <pharynx@ofir.dk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>I got a Radeon 9600XT. I can force detection on my tv, and get a picture,
>> >>but if I play an avi movie, the screen is black on the tv, but looks
>> >>normal
>> >>on my monitor.
>> >
>> > Enable Theater Mode in the Overlay settings (Clone mode options).

Has the TV been enabled as your PRIMARY monitor and NOT secondary
monitor (The "button" with the "bullseye" in "Control Panel",
"Display", "Settings", "Advanced", "Displays")? The TV, Windows Media
Player, and many other video players will display nothing but a black
screen if your TV has not been selected as the "primary monitor".
Behavior as you describe occurs when you've selected your monitor as
the "primary" display and have the TV as "secondary" display (the
button with "two windows" on it).

thanks for the follow ups,

*i have tryed on 2 tv's both work with the nvidia card on tv out
*i have tryed and tested the cables, all work
*i have tryed coxial out (from the vid card, then use the adapter (it
spays off to 4 conections ... connected to the video in on my TV (its
a brand new LG)
*i have tryed on all scren resolution settings
*i "force tv connection " (bloody useless that thing!)
*the actual control or ati display panel is so bloody complicated!
*even LOADING the drivers was a nightmare, and the book was NOTHING
like it loaded them up, I tryed this probably 30 times? (uninstall,
reinstall ect, reg clean, formatt comp even...ALL the same result :
NADA)
*i have returned to the shop of purchase 3 times, all 3 times they
said they took it back to the company (ati) and they said it was fine
*i have asked for ati online support, to be given a very automated
response.
*i have googles my butt off ... and have found sevral people with the
exact same problem, ALL have yet to recieve an answer.

still searching... btw i should give the exact specs i guess:

p4 1.7gig 8srx_f10c (BIOS)(gigabyte)
1gig ddr333 ram

the card is GV-R96X256V
radeon9600xt (its also a gigabyte)

thanks again to the true helpers: the public!

> Have you tried this with more than one TV? Are you using S-Video, composite
> or have tried both? S-Video carries the brightness and color on different
> pins of the connector. How long is the cable you are trying to use? Recently
> someone had this problem and found the device he had attached it to needed
> to have the S-Video enabled on it. Picture was B&W if not enabled.
> HTH