Re: ATI 9600TX drivers = which other ATI card?

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"Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for updated drivers for the ATI Radeon 9600TX 128Mb card, but
the
> only ones I found on Medion's site (who put the PC together) are a 65.5Mb
file
> in German.
>
> Can aomeone please tell me which other 9600 drivers will work with this
one
> please?
>
> TIA,
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>
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Or, better yet, http://mirror.ati.com/support/driver.html. Catalyst drivers
will work on all Radeon cards except mobility ones, but the same is not
always (although it usually is) true for MMC and OEM cards.

patrickp


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> www.ati.com .............
> "Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1994fed78a068a5c98a142@news.cis.dfn.de...
> > I'm looking for updated drivers for the ATI Radeon 9600TX 128Mb card,
but
> the
> > only ones I found on Medion's site (who put the PC together) are a
65.5Mb
> file
> > in German.
> >
> > Can aomeone please tell me which other 9600 drivers will work with this
> one
> > please?
> >
> > TIA,
> > --
> >
> > Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot
> uk
> > /* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
> > /* 935 DVDs, 259 games, 33 videos, 67 cinema films, 69 CDs, laserdiscs &
> news
> > /* tomb raider angel of darkness, hulk, 24, speed kings, hitcher, phone
> booth
> > "Organiser Eric Amy hit out today after just four people showed up
for
> > a public meeting to fight apathy in Dorchester" - Dorset Evening
Echo
>
>

Alan Shepherd wrote:

>The latest Cat 3.6 drivers work fine with the Radeon 9600tx (if modified)
>you have to modify the inf and ini files to add the Radeon 9600tx's PCI ID
>to the supported list - ALSO MAKE sure that you either make a restore point
>or a full backup before you do, this is one way to really mess up a PC.

Or he could use the Omega drivers. These drivers offer full support for
the 9600 TX 'out-of-the-box'. www.omegacorner.com/ati.htm

Thomas

"Dom Robinson" <murphyisamuppet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <6ELWa.591$xb.6392873@news-text.cableinet.net>,
> spam@awshepherd.freeserve.co.uk says...
> > The latest Cat 3.6 drivers work fine with the Radeon 9600tx (if
modified)
> > you have to modify the inf and ini files to add the Radeon 9600tx's PCI
ID
> > to the supported list - ALSO MAKE sure that you either make a restore
point
> > or a full backup before you do, this is one way to really mess up a PC.
> >
> > I know, I worked a modified Cat 3.6 installation and it's been rock
solid,
> > just no faster.
> >
> Ta. I'll leave it for now. I don't understand why ATI don't have the
drivers
> on their site and no mention of ATI 9600TX amongst the many cards they do
> list.
>
> Medion pointed me to a file, but the instructions upon download, were all
in
> German so I left it.
> --
>
> Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot
uk
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> /* tomb raider angel of darkness, hulk, 24, speed kings, hitcher, phone
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> "Organiser Eric Amy hit out today after just four people showed up for
> a public meeting to fight apathy in Dorchester" - Dorset Evening Echo


I don't understand, Dom - in what way don't ATi have the drivers on their
site? Your card is either a Radeon, in which case, whether ATi built or
OEM, in which case you can use the Catalysts, or a mobility chip, in which
case you would not expect ATi to have appropriate drivers, because the chip
will have been made and altered by another manufacturer.

In addition, the following poster also points out that you can use the Omega
drivers (which are tweaked ATi drivers) with mobility chips.

So what's special about your card that you can't find drivers for it?

patrickp

The Medion 9600tx card is a Radeon chip, with some significant modifications
from the reference design. It's been reported that it's a 9500 chip,
overclocked, with 128Mb Ram. It also lacks the DVI Output but has two VGA
O/P's instead. It is NOT a 9600 chip.

It also has a PCI ID which is not listed in Ati's drivers, BUT when listed
in the drivers they work beautifully.

> I don't understand, Dom - in what way don't ATi have the drivers on their
> site? Your card is either a Radeon, in which case, whether ATi built or
> OEM, in which case you can use the Catalysts, or a mobility chip, in which
> case you would not expect ATi to have appropriate drivers, because the
chip
> will have been made and altered by another manufacturer.
>
> In addition, the following poster also points out that you can use the
Omega
> drivers (which are tweaked ATi drivers) with mobility chips.
>
> So what's special about your card that you can't find drivers for it?

In article <ZiXWa.1097$Kf6.12188866@news-text.cableinet.net>,
spam@awshepherd.freeserve.co.uk says...
> The Medion 9600tx card is a Radeon chip, with some significant modifications
> from the reference design. It's been reported that it's a 9500 chip,

If it is a 9500NP on a 9700 PCB and it has 'L' shaped memory, and has
not had the xtra pipelines "crippled" it has huge potential.

> overclocked, with 128Mb Ram. It also lacks the DVI Output but has two VGA
> O/P's instead. It is NOT a 9600 chip.

> It also has a PCI ID which is not listed in Ati's drivers, BUT when listed
> in the drivers they work beautifully.

> > I don't understand, Dom - in what way don't ATi have the drivers on their
> > site? Your card is either a Radeon, in which case, whether ATi built or
> > OEM, in which case you can use the Catalysts, or a mobility chip, in which
> > case you would not expect ATi to have appropriate drivers, because the
> chip
> > will have been made and altered by another manufacturer.

> > In addition, the following poster also points out that you can use the
> Omega
> > drivers (which are tweaked ATi drivers) with mobility chips.

> > So what's special about your card that you can't find drivers for it?


BoroLad

In article <_B5Xa.1331$nY3.15019206@news-text.cableinet.net>,
spam@awshepherd.freeserve.co.uk says...
> The 9500 Pro or Non Pro are the same chip, the board does NOT have the extra
> 128 bit data bus, but it's been rumoured that MAYBE it's possible to enable
> the extra 4 texture units....

agreed Alan, but your quote of "been reported that it's a 9500 chip"
prompted my input of "9500NP"

And if it has a combo of 9500NP and the original 9700 reference design
'L' shaped memory chip[s] then the card can be 'softmodded' in minutes
without a BIOS flash by the simple installation of the 'Omega' drivers.

This I have done now 9 times in total and with the exception of one
[Connect3D brand] card all have worked fine. The O/P 'Dom Robinson's
needs were quite different - he only needs to:

-disable 'fastwrites' " The capacity of any [high level] Operating
System (WindoZ) to do what you want is controlled by the [low level]
Operating System (the BIOS), this is the most often overlooked issue.
Switch off the bloody "fastwrites", goto: GoTo: //omegacorner.com/ then
click on "omega's corner" then click on "ATi Radeon" then click on "bios
setting for you video card" then sort your BIOS as a 1st step to doing
the mod!

-use the Omega drivers. "The "omega" drivers are safe I've used em for 7
or 8 years, they [the v2.4.74] have built in everything: "smartgart tab,
AGP x1 x2 x4 x8 and the NaStY "turn them OFF fastwites",clock rate tab,
adjust or overclock the "clock rate and/or core", OpenGL & Direct3D,
adjust anti aliasing/anistotropic/vertical sink etc

-never install the ATi Control Panel "The ATi Control Panel 'LOCKS'
information and should be uninstalled and never re-installed, it is the
most frequent cause of inability to upgrade drivers. It is of no use,
you don't need it, most probobly you never touch the icon one you have
fininshed the initial install of your card, get rid of it!

-and his problems will be solved!

> Hmm I also suspect that to save money Medion have also not fitted a flash
> memory chip in the card as a Bios so the Bios cannot be changed to make it a
> 9700.......

irrelevant - see above, but this particular observation of yours is what
led me to intervene, it is common knowledge that ATi put the 'boot in'
to all makers using the old 9700 x4 pipe - the only reason I can think
of for crippling a BIOS' flash is that they are using 9700 ref spec PCB
and don't want anyone re-opening the other pipes! Once again you don't
need to flash, just need the Omega's!

Hope this helps, BoroLad

> And ALL ASFAIK 9700's have a DVI O/P, so it won't be possible to use a stock
> 9700 modified Bios, or driver to make the card a 9700.

> > > The Medion 9600tx card is a Radeon chip, with some significant
> modifications
> > > from the reference design. It's been reported that it's a 9500 chip,
> >
> > If it is a 9500NP on a 9700 PCB and it has 'L' shaped memory, and has
> > not had the xtra pipelines "crippled" it has huge potential.
> >
> > > overclocked, with 128Mb Ram. It also lacks the DVI Output but has two
> VGA
> > > O/P's instead. It is NOT a 9600 chip.
> >
> > > It also has a PCI ID which is not listed in Ati's drivers, BUT when
> listed
> > > in the drivers they work beautifully.
> >
> > > > I don't understand, Dom - in what way don't ATi have the drivers on
> their
> > > > site? Your card is either a Radeon, in which case, whether ATi built
> or
> > > > OEM, in which case you can use the Catalysts, or a mobility chip, in
> which
> > > > case you would not expect ATi to have appropriate drivers, because the
> > > chip
> > > > will have been made and altered by another manufacturer.
> >
> > > > In addition, the following poster also points out that you can use the
> > > Omega
> > > > drivers (which are tweaked ATi drivers) with mobility chips.
> >
> > > > So what's special about your card that you can't find drivers for it?
> >
> >
> > BoroLad