Pricelessware Site - Search Facility

Only doing as I'm told !
"Any suggestions and/or comments should be posted
on the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup for discussion."

Susan,
Have you considered using a search facility on the site ?

There's a good free one (so I'm on-topic) available from
a company called Atomz.
http://www.atomz.com/applications/search/trial.htm

"Atomz Express Search is a free, reduced-feature version of our
award-winning Atomz Search that includes everything you need to
integrate basic search capability on your own personal Web site.
Why does Atomz offer a free version? It's simple. We want you
to see how effective on-demand software is to use and how easy
it is to maintain"

I know it says "trial" in the URL but I've been using it for around
18 months now on my own website (100+ pages) and I've never
had any pressure from them to upgrade to anything else.
The only contact I get from them is an e-mail each week giving
search usage statistics for the site.

If you want to see it in action, it's at the foot of the menu page
of : http://www.ian-stewart.dsl.pipex.com/

The same HTML is pasted into another menu page at :
http://www.ian-stewart.dsl.pipex.com/informer.htm
so it can be used on as many pages as required.

-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.ian-stewart.dsl.pipex.com/

"Josiah Jenkins" <josiah-jenkins@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> Only doing as I'm told !
> "Any suggestions and/or comments should be posted
> on the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup for discussion."
>
> Susan,
> Have you considered using a search facility on the site ?
>
> There's a good free one (so I'm on-topic) available from
> a company called Atomz.
> http://www.atomz.com/applications/search/trial.htm

If Susans listinbgs are already in a database, it wouldn't be too hard for
someone to write one especially for the PW site. (just a pity the site is
PHP and not ASP ;o)).

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!

"Steven Burn" <pvt@noyb.com> wrote :

> pity the site is PHP and not ASP ;o)).

Troll beginning just recognized and therefore avoided ;-).

Seriously, if Susan needs some help to code a php search module for
pricelessware, I may give a hand.

--
Antoine

Josiah Jenkins <josiah-jenkins@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in
newsp7sb01cr9k9fk4ljt3dncqnt39lh86mlq@4ax.com:

> Only doing as I'm told !
> "Any suggestions and/or comments should be posted
> on the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup for discussion."
>
> Susan,
> Have you considered using a search facility on the site ?
>
> There's a good free one (so I'm on-topic) available from
> a company called Atomz.
> http://www.atomz.com/applications/search/trial.htm
>
> "Atomz Express Search is a free, reduced-feature version of our
> award-winning Atomz Search that includes everything you need to
> integrate basic search capability on your own personal Web site.
> Why does Atomz offer a free version? It's simple. We want you
> to see how effective on-demand software is to use and how easy
> it is to maintain"
>
> I know it says "trial" in the URL but I've been using it for around
> 18 months now on my own website (100+ pages) and I've never
> had any pressure from them to upgrade to anything else.
> The only contact I get from them is an e-mail each week giving
> search usage statistics for the site.
>
> If you want to see it in action, it's at the foot of the menu page
> of : http://www.ian-stewart.dsl.pipex.com/
>
> The same HTML is pasted into another menu page at :
> http://www.ian-stewart.dsl.pipex.com/informer.htm
> so it can be used on as many pages as required.
>
> -- The Despicable Stewart
> -- Perfidious Alban
> -- http://www.ian-stewart.dsl.pipex.com/

I set up my web page to help me search Pricelessware. You can use it if
it helps.

--
http://www.vbmark.com/
A good place to start.

Josiah Jenkins wrote:

> Only doing as I'm told !

*very* good!

> "Any suggestions and/or comments should be posted
> on the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup for discussion."
>
> Susan,
> Have you considered using a search facility on the site ?

It's been suggested before. There *are* Google search links on the about
page:

<q>
You can search the entire Pricelessware site at this Google search link
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=s...icelessware.org ) or this
Google advanced search link
http://www.google.com/advanced_sear...en&lr=&ie=UTF-8

(Use this search to find words or phrases in the program descriptions.)
</q>

> There's a good free one (so I'm on-topic) available from
> a company called Atomz.
> http://www.atomz.com/applications/search/trial.htm

I'm somewhat familiar with it - I believe that's the one SOS uses on his
site.

What kind of search is needed that's not available now? Is a different
kind of search needed or is it more a matter of where the search
links/boxes are located? I'd like to be sure the *requirements* are
clearly defined first. . . .

Susan
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PL2004 CD http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm
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Antoine wrote:

> "Steven Burn" <pvt@noyb.com> wrote :
>
>>pity the site is PHP and not ASP ;o)).
>
> Troll beginning just recognized and therefore avoided ;-).

Maybe Steven's offering to redo the site in ASP (our new webmaster?).

> Seriously, if Susan needs some help to code a php search module for
> pricelessware, I may give a hand.

Thank you!

Let's wait for some discussion on what's lacking now - and what would be
useful - before discussing how to proceed.

Susan
--
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
PL2004 CD http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm
alt.comp.freeware FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html

Susan Bugher <whoisebugher@kvi.net> wrote:
> Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>
>> Only doing as I'm told !
>
> *very* good!
>
>> "Any suggestions and/or comments should be posted
>> on the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup for discussion."
>>
>> Susan,
>> Have you considered using a search facility on the site ?
>
> It's been suggested before. There *are* Google search links on the
> about page:
>
> <q>
> You can search the entire Pricelessware site at this Google search
> link http://www.google.com/search?as_q=s...icelessware.org )
> or this Google advanced search link
>
http://www.google.com/advanced_sear...en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
>
> (Use this search to find words or phrases in the program
> descriptions.) </q>

You could add Google's site search-
http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both
"What could be better? Search me.
Google Free web search with site search
----------------------------------------
If you want visitors to find things easily within your web pages, add
Google Free site search as well as web search. Just copy and paste the
boxed code into your site, then replace the words "YOUR DOMAIN NAME,"
which appears three times in the code, with your own website's actual
domain name (e.g., http://froogle.google.com)."

OR

You could add "Customizable Google Free WebSearch and SiteSearch"-
http://www.google.com/services/free.html
"Want your search results to look more like your site? With a few easy
additional steps, you can customize your results display to include
background, text and link colors you select. Simply register your site
with Google, then choose the version of Google Free you want from our
menu."

--
Ben Cooper
historybot@hotmail.com

Susan Bugher <whoisebugher@kvi.net> wrote:

> Antoine wrote:
>
>> "Steven Burn" <pvt@noyb.com> wrote :
>>
>>>pity the site is PHP and not ASP ;o)).
>>
>> Troll beginning just recognized and therefore avoided ;-).
>
> Maybe Steven's offering to redo the site in ASP (our new
> webmaster?).

Only the thought!

Ben Cooper wrote:

> Susan Bugher <whoisebugher@kvi.net> wrote:
>
>>Josiah Jenkins wrote:
>>
>>>Have you considered using a search facility on the site ?
>>
>>It's been suggested before. There *are* Google search links on the
>>about page:
>>
>><q>
>>You can search the entire Pricelessware site at this Google search
>>link http://www.google.com/search?as_q=s...icelessware.org )
>> or this Google advanced search link
>>
>
> http://www.google.com/advanced_sear...en&lr=&ie=UTF-8
>
>>(Use this search to find words or phrases in the program
>>descriptions.) </q>
>
>
> You could add Google's site search-
> http://www.google.com/searchcode.html#both
> "What could be better? Search me.
> Google Free web search with site search
> ----------------------------------------
> If you want visitors to find things easily within your web pages, add
> Google Free site search as well as web search. Just copy and paste the
> boxed code into your site, then replace the words "YOUR DOMAIN NAME,"
> which appears three times in the code, with your own website's actual
> domain name (e.g., http://froogle.google.com)."
>
> OR
>
> You could add "Customizable Google Free WebSearch and SiteSearch"-
> http://www.google.com/services/free.html
> "Want your search results to look more like your site? With a few easy
> additional steps, you can customize your results display to include
> background, text and link colors you select. Simply register your site
> with Google, then choose the version of Google Free you want from our
> menu."

I know one search result people would like - a list of the Linux apps -
I'm not sure any of these search tools would produce that - the Google
link shown now will show the web pages such apps are one - which is not
much help.

ISTM that it might be particularly helpful to add a search link/tool at
the bottom of the Category Index page? Yes/no? Other pages?

Somewhat related question. Would it be helpful to add a link to the acf
prog.info DESKTOP page at the bottom of the PL DESKTOP page (etc. etc.)?

Susan
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Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
PL2004 CD http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm
alt.comp.freeware FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html

Susan Bugher wrote:

> I know one search result people would like - a list of the Linux apps -
> I'm not sure any of these search tools would produce that - the Google
> link shown now will show the web pages such apps are one - which is not
> much help.

oops - Google shows each web page linux apps are *on* (not the name of
each app)

> ISTM that it might be particularly helpful to add a search link/tool at
> the bottom of the Category Index page? Yes/no? Other pages?
>
> Somewhat related question. Would it be helpful to add a link to the acf
> prog.info DESKTOP page at the bottom of the PL DESKTOP page (etc. etc.)?
>
> Susan


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Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
PL2004 CD http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/CD2004PL.htm
alt.comp.freeware FAQ: http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html