Nikon coolscan 4 ...problem with b&w negs

Having a problem with my coolscan when scanning b&w negs...ICE doesn't
seem to work with them..if i turn it on the image just comes out as a
contrasty mess...if i don't use it the image is covered in marks...
No problems when using ICE in colour stuff...
Any ideas?
Thanks!!!

ICE does not always work with B&W images (nor does it always work with
Kodachrome).. The IR channel reads the grains of silver as flaws in the
image.
Remove the scratches with your image processing software.
Jim
"jonathan" <littlejohnjonathan@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e00c831.0401251427.658bb5cd@posting.google.com...
> Having a problem with my coolscan when scanning b&w negs...ICE doesn't
> seem to work with them..if i turn it on the image just comes out as a
> contrasty mess...if i don't use it the image is covered in marks...
> No problems when using ICE in colour stuff...
> Any ideas?
> Thanks!!!

In article <3e00c831.0401251427.658bb5cd@posting.google.com>, jonathan
<littlejohnjonathan@hotmail.com> writes
>Having a problem with my coolscan when scanning b&w negs...ICE doesn't
>seem to work with them..if i turn it on the image just comes out as a
>contrasty mess...if i don't use it the image is covered in marks...
>No problems when using ICE in colour stuff...
>Any ideas?

Yes - RTFM, specifically page 53 of the Software Manual on the CD-ROM.

ICE does not work at all with traditional B&W film and can have problems
with some batches of Kodachrome. In fact, any emulsion which has a
significant residual silver oxide content in the emulsions will have
problems because silver oxide does not tramsmit the infrared light used
by ICE (or visible light either - that's why its black!).
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
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Kennedy McEwen wrote:
>
> In article <3e00c831.0401251427.658bb5cd@posting.google.com>, jonathan
> <littlejohnjonathan@hotmail.com> writes
> >Having a problem with my coolscan when scanning b&w negs...ICE doesn't
> >seem to work with them..if i turn it on the image just comes out as a
> >contrasty mess...if i don't use it the image is covered in marks...
> >No problems when using ICE in colour stuff...
> >Any ideas?
>
> Yes - RTFM, specifically page 53 of the Software Manual on the CD-ROM.
>
> ICE does not work at all with traditional B&W film and can have problems
> with some batches of Kodachrome. In fact, any emulsion which has a
> significant residual silver oxide content in the emulsions will have
> problems because silver oxide does not tramsmit the infrared light used
> by ICE (or visible light either - that's why its black!).

I run recently in similar mystery with Ilford...
Indeed, with silver-halide based material you must not use ICE.
But materials like Kodak T400max, which are de facto monochromatic
negatives with a similar sepia/orange look, work fine with ICE.

Thomas


> --
> Kennedy
> Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
> A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
> Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)