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Old 18-02-2004, 04:14 AM   #1
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I'd like to upgrade the 733 mHz pentium in my 4 year old Micron. The
model number of the motherboard is 694X-596B-977, if that helps.

I'm wondering what types of CPU's I can use. I was looking for a sort
of "master list" which says what CPU upgrades are allowed for all
chips, even more modern ones. But googling for that sort of info
doesn't seem to work. Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Old 18-02-2004, 02:23 PM   #2
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raconte@hotmail.com (raconte) wrote in message news:<a30ce47b.0402172114.1bec7fc1@posting.google.com>...
> I'd like to upgrade the 733 mHz pentium in my 4 year old Micron. The
> model number of the motherboard is 694X-596B-977, if that helps.
>
> I'm wondering what types of CPU's I can use. I was looking for a sort
> of "master list" which says what CPU upgrades are allowed for all
> chips, even more modern ones. But googling for that sort of info
> doesn't seem to work. Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks



I'm affraid that a CPU upgrade is hardly worth the effort, if you can
find one anyway. I haven't seen socket 370 CPUs in the stores for a
while already. If you can get a Coppermine (max. 1GHz IIRC) or
Tualatin PIII (max. 1.4GHz IIRC), you might be lucky if your mainboard
supports a slocket and CPU core voltage required by those CPUs. Also
the new CPU multiplier might be a show-stopper. I know of Asus 440BX
boards giving lots of troubles with multipliers >10. Otherwise you'd
get some more RAM and a fast HDD + controller.

If your current system is really insufficient for what you're doing
with it, just get a dirt cheap Athlon (Barton) + mainboard + DDR RAM +
good PSU. That's how I upgraded my Coppermine Celleron system two
weeks ago, I'm very confident about my new setup.

Cheers,
Chris
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Old 18-02-2004, 04:43 PM   #3
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via C3
fully compatible x86 - socket370 - 20W - 30-50$
easier to find than old pentium
and fanless

"raconte" <raconte@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
a30ce47b.0402172114.1bec7fc1@posting.google.com...
> I'd like to upgrade the 733 mHz pentium in my 4 year old Micron. The
> model number of the motherboard is 694X-596B-977, if that helps.
>
> I'm wondering what types of CPU's I can use. I was looking for a sort
> of "master list" which says what CPU upgrades are allowed for all
> chips, even more modern ones. But googling for that sort of info
> doesn't seem to work. Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks



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Old 18-02-2004, 07:00 PM   #4
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raconte <raconte@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to upgrade the 733 mHz pentium in my 4 year old Micron. The
> model number of the motherboard is 694X-596B-977, if that helps.
>
> I'm wondering what types of CPU's I can use. I was looking for a sort
> of "master list" which says what CPU upgrades are allowed for all
> chips, even more modern ones. But googling for that sort of info
> doesn't seem to work. Any info would be appreciated.


Look up the stepping of the CPU using a CPUID tool, then look that stepping
up on intel.com. If that's a Pentium III, odds are any comparable-generation
(same FSB, voltage, socket-type) Pentium III. Based on poor recall of the
PIII-733 (that it was 133mhz FSB and < 2v), I think that means pretty much
any non-FCPGA2/Tualatin Socket-370 P3. I don't think they had a slot-1 733,
but if they did, the same would probably apply with a Slocket.

I don't think the Celeron 733 exists outside of XBoxen, but if it does, the
above may not apply.

Again, first check what the CPU you've got is.

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Old 18-02-2004, 07:48 PM   #5
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via C3
fully compatible x86 - socket370 - 20W - 30-50$
easier to find than old pentium
bios update needed

"raconte" <raconte@hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
a30ce47b.0402172114.1bec7fc1@posting.google.com...
> I'd like to upgrade the 733 mHz pentium in my 4 year old Micron. The
> model number of the motherboard is 694X-596B-977, if that helps.
>
> I'm wondering what types of CPU's I can use. I was looking for a sort
> of "master list" which says what CPU upgrades are allowed for all
> chips, even more modern ones. But googling for that sort of info
> doesn't seem to work. Any info would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks



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Old 19-02-2004, 01:59 AM   #6
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"Papa Schultz" <papa@schultz.cc> wrote :

> via C3
> fully compatible x86 - socket370 - 20W - 30-50$
> easier to find than old pentium
> bios update needed


you forgot one word - slower

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Old 19-02-2004, 04:18 AM   #7
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>I'd like to upgrade the 733 mHz pentium in my 4 year old Micron. The
>model number of the motherboard is 694X-596B-977, if that helps.


Your computer is probably a Slot1 P3 with the VIA Apollo 133 Chipset,
though most Coppermine-based P3s came in both Slot1 and Socket370
packaging. You could probably use either a Powerleap adaptor
(www.powerleap.com) or one of the adopters from upgradeware
(http://www.upgradeware.com/) with Tualatin P3 or Celeron 256k chips
up to 1.4GHz (which are quite cheap these days, either new or used),
and would be nice if this 733Mhz p3 is your 2nd-backup PC. But if
this computer is currently your only main computer, I'd recommend just
getting or building an entirely new Athlon or P4 Northwood system.

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Old 19-02-2004, 06:40 AM   #8
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> you forgot one word - slower


Really ! I don't think C3@1.2GHz is slower than a P3@733MHz
C3 Nehemiah rocks and is much more optimized than Pentium!!! Tualatin



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Old 19-02-2004, 12:57 PM   #9
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"Papa Schultz" <papa@schultz.cc> wrote:

>> you forgot one word - slower

>
>Really ! I don't think C3@1.2GHz is slower than a P3@733MHz
>C3 Nehemiah rocks and is much more optimized than Pentium!!! Tualatin


Wouldn't be much faster, either. Nothing you'd notice.

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Old 19-02-2004, 01:21 PM   #10
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> Wouldn't be much faster, either. Nothing you'd notice.

+466MHz, it's nothing for you ! And if you consider optimized arch of
Nehemiah for 3D and Encryption it probably gains more than 466MHz compared
to the pentium.

If you consider AMD and Intel, there is a difference of 1GHz and we have
equivalent performance with a barton3000+@2.1GHz and Pentium@3.06GHz. Cache
L2 speed dont make the entire performance and keeping C3 compatible with
older motherboard 370 is important for via.

From 733MHz to 1.2GHz there is just +64% of cache L2 speed.
Finally, I think that a +64% solution is much faster and i dont consider
optimisations!!!


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