Full Volume Backup

I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.

Use a product such as Norton Ghost.

--
Steve C. Ray
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"BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.

On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:21:22 -0500, "Steve C. Ray" <stevec@mail.com>
wrote :

>Use a product such as Norton Ghost.

He wants the backup HDD to be ready to boot if the boot HDD fails, so
a Ghost Image isn't the answer.

He can do a disk copy under DOS - assuming it will work for NTFS.
Programs like Drive Image should do that. But for it to work he would
have to change the backup drive to become the primary before trying to
boot, so it wouldn't be ready immediately.

--
Regards,
Peter Wilkins

The best case scenario would be mirroring, unfortunately software mirroring
is not available in xp, I don't know why.

However does your motherboard perhaps have an onboard RAID controller, if
not you could get a cheap add on ide raid controller and mirror the existing
disk. You get better I/O performance from a mirror aswell, and if one of the
disks goes bad, the system stays running on the remaining single image.

You also wouldn't have the hassle of keeping an offline backup, up to date.

You would probably have to reinstall xp to implement the hardware mirror.

Paul


"BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.

I believe that imaging software, perhaps Symantec Ghost, would be easier to
implement.

Tom Swift

"Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
news:#qsk4M$lDHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> The best case scenario would be mirroring, unfortunately software
mirroring
> is not available in xp, I don't know why.
>
> However does your motherboard perhaps have an onboard RAID controller, if
> not you could get a cheap add on ide raid controller and mirror the
existing
> disk. You get better I/O performance from a mirror aswell, and if one of
the
> disks goes bad, the system stays running on the remaining single image.
>
> You also wouldn't have the hassle of keeping an offline backup, up to
date.
>
> You would probably have to reinstall xp to implement the hardware mirror.
>
> Paul
>
>
> "BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> > volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> > goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> > ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.
>
>

Ah, but there's no gain without pain :-)

And hardware mirroring is a one off set it and forget it.

Paul



"Tom Swift" <tom.swift@swiftenterprises.com> wrote in message
news:ub2m0U$lDHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I believe that imaging software, perhaps Symantec Ghost, would be easier
to
> implement.
>
> Tom Swift
>
> "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> news:#qsk4M$lDHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > The best case scenario would be mirroring, unfortunately software
> mirroring
> > is not available in xp, I don't know why.
> >
> > However does your motherboard perhaps have an onboard RAID controller,
if
> > not you could get a cheap add on ide raid controller and mirror the
> existing
> > disk. You get better I/O performance from a mirror aswell, and if one of
> the
> > disks goes bad, the system stays running on the remaining single image.
> >
> > You also wouldn't have the hassle of keeping an offline backup, up to
> date.
> >
> > You would probably have to reinstall xp to implement the hardware
mirror.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > "BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > > I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> > > volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> > > goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> > > ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.
> >
> >
>
>

"Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message news:<OxlNn4$lDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> Ah, but there's no gain without pain :-)
>
> And hardware mirroring is a one off set it and forget it.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> "Tom Swift" <tom.swift@swiftenterprises.com> wrote in message
> news:ub2m0U$lDHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I believe that imaging software, perhaps Symantec Ghost, would be easier
> to
> > implement.
> >
> > Tom Swift
> >
> > "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> > news:#qsk4M$lDHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > The best case scenario would be mirroring, unfortunately software
> mirroring
> > > is not available in xp, I don't know why.
> > >
> > > However does your motherboard perhaps have an onboard RAID controller,
> if
> > > not you could get a cheap add on ide raid controller and mirror the
> existing
> > > disk. You get better I/O performance from a mirror aswell, and if one of
> the
> > > disks goes bad, the system stays running on the remaining single image.
> > >
> > > You also wouldn't have the hassle of keeping an offline backup, up to
> date.
> > >
> > > You would probably have to reinstall xp to implement the hardware
> mirror.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > > "BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> > > > volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> > > > goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> > > > ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >


Hi Paul...

If you're looking for disk mirroring, you could check out Arco's
DupliDisk IDE RAID 1 adapter at http://www.arcoide.com. It lets you
mirror up to two pairs of IDE drives on each of your existing IDE
controllers. It doesn't require any drivers and is OS independent.
These guys have been around for years.

Eugene

Thanks Eugene

I don't see one that uses existing IDE controllers, all the ones I could
see, had there own onboard connectors. Not sure I can see how that would
work anyway, unless it was a device that was plugged in between the disks
and the ide controller on the motherboard. These look like standard ide raid
controllers, Am I missing something?

They are also a bit pricey don't you think at $289, you could get a
motherboard with onboard Raid for a lot less than that.

The first site I looked at here in the uk has a Promise 2 Channel ide Raid
card for £65, thats less than 100 US.

I'm not sure how the functionality and performance compares, but Promise
have been doing ide Raid for a long time too.

Best Wishes

Paul


"Eugene P." <eugenep@usa.com> wrote in message
news:d619dca1.0310221028.39e3ed28@posting.google.com...
> "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
news:<OxlNn4$lDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> > Ah, but there's no gain without pain :-)
> >
> > And hardware mirroring is a one off set it and forget it.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> > "Tom Swift" <tom.swift@swiftenterprises.com> wrote in message
> > news:ub2m0U$lDHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > I believe that imaging software, perhaps Symantec Ghost, would be
easier
> > to
> > > implement.
> > >
> > > Tom Swift
> > >
> > > "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> > > news:#qsk4M$lDHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > The best case scenario would be mirroring, unfortunately software
> > mirroring
> > > > is not available in xp, I don't know why.
> > > >
> > > > However does your motherboard perhaps have an onboard RAID
controller,
> > if
> > > > not you could get a cheap add on ide raid controller and mirror the
> > existing
> > > > disk. You get better I/O performance from a mirror aswell, and if
one of
> > the
> > > > disks goes bad, the system stays running on the remaining single
image.
> > > >
> > > > You also wouldn't have the hassle of keeping an offline backup, up
to
> > date.
> > > >
> > > > You would probably have to reinstall xp to implement the hardware
> > mirror.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> > > > > volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> > > > > goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> > > > > ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
> Hi Paul...
>
> If you're looking for disk mirroring, you could check out Arco's
> DupliDisk IDE RAID 1 adapter at http://www.arcoide.com. It lets you
> mirror up to two pairs of IDE drives on each of your existing IDE
> controllers. It doesn't require any drivers and is OS independent.
> These guys have been around for years.
>
> Eugene

Look...it's your choice...but for me, Norton Ghost was free (after rebates,
naturally) and it clones a hard disk in minutes. If I was doing something
like, oh, running an airline reservation system or a bank ATM network I
would look at a RAID array.

Tom Swift

"Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
news:eFsYT8MmDHA.1004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Eugene
>
> I don't see one that uses existing IDE controllers, all the ones I could
> see, had there own onboard connectors. Not sure I can see how that would
> work anyway, unless it was a device that was plugged in between the disks
> and the ide controller on the motherboard. These look like standard ide
raid
> controllers, Am I missing something?
>
> They are also a bit pricey don't you think at $289, you could get a
> motherboard with onboard Raid for a lot less than that.
>
> The first site I looked at here in the uk has a Promise 2 Channel ide Raid
> card for £65, thats less than 100 US.
>
> I'm not sure how the functionality and performance compares, but Promise
> have been doing ide Raid for a long time too.
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Paul
>
>
> "Eugene P." <eugenep@usa.com> wrote in message
> news:d619dca1.0310221028.39e3ed28@posting.google.com...
> > "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> news:<OxlNn4$lDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> > > Ah, but there's no gain without pain :-)
> > >
> > > And hardware mirroring is a one off set it and forget it.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Tom Swift" <tom.swift@swiftenterprises.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ub2m0U$lDHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > I believe that imaging software, perhaps Symantec Ghost, would be
> easier
> > > to
> > > > implement.
> > > >
> > > > Tom Swift
> > > >
> > > > "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:#qsk4M$lDHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > The best case scenario would be mirroring, unfortunately software
> > > mirroring
> > > > > is not available in xp, I don't know why.
> > > > >
> > > > > However does your motherboard perhaps have an onboard RAID
> controller,
> > > if
> > > > > not you could get a cheap add on ide raid controller and mirror
the
> > > existing
> > > > > disk. You get better I/O performance from a mirror aswell, and if
> one of
> > > the
> > > > > disks goes bad, the system stays running on the remaining single
> image.
> > > > >
> > > > > You also wouldn't have the hassle of keeping an offline backup, up
> to
> > > date.
> > > > >
> > > > > You would probably have to reinstall xp to implement the hardware
> > > mirror.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> > > > > > volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> > > > > > goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> > > > > > ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul...
> >
> > If you're looking for disk mirroring, you could check out Arco's
> > DupliDisk IDE RAID 1 adapter at http://www.arcoide.com. It lets you
> > mirror up to two pairs of IDE drives on each of your existing IDE
> > controllers. It doesn't require any drivers and is OS independent.
> > These guys have been around for years.
> >
> > Eugene
>
>

Hey Tom,

What exactly are these rebates ? Here in the UK amazon has Ghost 2003 for
£38.

I keep seeing info about them for microsoft products aswell but I've never
seen anything in the UK. Is this some marketing strategy peculiar to the US
?

Paul

"Tom Swift" <tom.swift@swiftenterprises.com> wrote in message
news:%23cW4EGNmDHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Look...it's your choice...but for me, Norton Ghost was free (after
rebates,
> naturally) and it clones a hard disk in minutes. If I was doing something
> like, oh, running an airline reservation system or a bank ATM network I
> would look at a RAID array.
>
> Tom Swift
>
> "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> news:eFsYT8MmDHA.1004@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Thanks Eugene
> >
> > I don't see one that uses existing IDE controllers, all the ones I could
> > see, had there own onboard connectors. Not sure I can see how that would
> > work anyway, unless it was a device that was plugged in between the
disks
> > and the ide controller on the motherboard. These look like standard ide
> raid
> > controllers, Am I missing something?
> >
> > They are also a bit pricey don't you think at $289, you could get a
> > motherboard with onboard Raid for a lot less than that.
> >
> > The first site I looked at here in the uk has a Promise 2 Channel ide
Raid
> > card for £65, thats less than 100 US.
> >
> > I'm not sure how the functionality and performance compares, but Promise
> > have been doing ide Raid for a long time too.
> >
> > Best Wishes
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > "Eugene P." <eugenep@usa.com> wrote in message
> > news:d619dca1.0310221028.39e3ed28@posting.google.com...
> > > "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> > news:<OxlNn4$lDHA.2416@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> > > > Ah, but there's no gain without pain :-)
> > > >
> > > > And hardware mirroring is a one off set it and forget it.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Tom Swift" <tom.swift@swiftenterprises.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ub2m0U$lDHA.1728@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I believe that imaging software, perhaps Symantec Ghost, would be
> > easier
> > > > to
> > > > > implement.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom Swift
> > > > >
> > > > > "Paul B T Hodges" <dummy@address.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:#qsk4M$lDHA.2652@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > The best case scenario would be mirroring, unfortunately
software
> > > > mirroring
> > > > > > is not available in xp, I don't know why.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However does your motherboard perhaps have an onboard RAID
> > controller,
> > > > if
> > > > > > not you could get a cheap add on ide raid controller and mirror
> the
> > > > existing
> > > > > > disk. You get better I/O performance from a mirror aswell, and
if
> > one of
> > > > the
> > > > > > disks goes bad, the system stays running on the remaining single
> > image.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You also wouldn't have the hassle of keeping an offline backup,
up
> > to
> > > > date.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You would probably have to reinstall xp to implement the
hardware
> > > > mirror.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "BobK" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:058f01c39781$7dd7b5d0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > I want to backup my entire C: drive. How do I make a full
> > > > > > > volume backup of my hard drive to another hard drive? The
> > > > > > > goal is to have a fully functional copy of my C: drive
> > > > > > > ready to boot, if & when the primary C: drive fails.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Paul...
> > >
> > > If you're looking for disk mirroring, you could check out Arco's
> > > DupliDisk IDE RAID 1 adapter at http://www.arcoide.com. It lets you
> > > mirror up to two pairs of IDE drives on each of your existing IDE
> > > controllers. It doesn't require any drivers and is OS independent.
> > > These guys have been around for years.
> > >
> > > Eugene
> >
> >
>
>