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Old 05-08-2003, 01:53 PM   #1
Cheryl Fischer
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Questions regarding the Outlook Security prompt are asked very frequently.
The most complete answer has been provided by Outlook MVP Sue Mosher and is
as follows:


"The security dialogs that pop up when an application tries to access
certain Outlook properties and methods are designed to inhibit the spread of
viruses via Outlook; see
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec. If you are a standalone
user, Outlook provides no way to suppress this behavior. However, you can
use a free tool called Express ClickYes
(http://www.express-soft.com/mailmate/clickyes.html) to click the security
dialog buttons automatically. Beware that this means if a virus tries to
send mail using Outlook or gain access to your address book, it will
succeed.

"If you're the administrator in an Exchange Server environment, you can
reduce the impact of the security prompts with administrative tools. See
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/admin.htm

"If it's an application you wrote yourself, you can use one of these
approaches to redo the program:

-- Use Extended MAPI (see http://www.slipstick.com/dev/mapi.htm) and C++
or Delphi; this is the most secure method and the only one that Microsoft
recommendeds.

-- Use Redemption (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/), a third-party
COM library that wraps around Extended MAPI but parallels the Outlook Object
Model

-- Use SendKeys to "click" the buttons on the security dialogs that your
application may trigger. See
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec for a link to sample
code.

-- Program the free Express ClickYes
(http://www.express-soft.com/mailmate/clickyes.html) tool to start suspended
and turn it on only when your program needs to have the buttons clicked
automatically."

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.slipstick.com/books/jumpstart.htm

END OF QUOTED MATERIAL




--
Cheryl Fischer
Law/Sys Associates
Houston, TX

"Kylii" <kylii@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:09fc01c35b1e$fec78160$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> Where I work we use our database (access) to send out
> mass email updates to members. We have recently upgraded
> to Windows and Office XP and Outlook does not like having
> another program sending emails for it. It thinks it's a
> potential virus and askes if you want to proceed (but
> waits 5 seconds before offering the 'yes' option).
> Windows and Office 2000 works fine under these conditions
> as we still have one computer with the old software.
>
> I have tried diabling the marcos, security levels in both
> Outlook and IE but nothing seems to work.
>
> Is there a way around this in Outlook XP or will I be
> forced to downgrade my computer as well. If the latter
> is required, would our licence still allow that?



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Old 06-08-2003, 12:35 AM   #2
Kylii
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If I use the 'click yes' program however uninstall it
after each time I need it, would that still prevent
Outlook from potentially sending viruses?

Would the 'click yes' be suitable for my use when I am
sending approxiamtely 3000+ emails each forthnight? Or
would downgrading to Outlook 2000 be the better option??


>-----Original Message-----
>Questions regarding the Outlook Security prompt are

asked very frequently.
>The most complete answer has been provided by Outlook

MVP Sue Mosher and is
>as follows:
>
>
>"The security dialogs that pop up when an application

tries to access
>certain Outlook properties and methods are designed to

inhibit the spread of
>viruses via Outlook; see
>http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec. If

you are a standalone
>user, Outlook provides no way to suppress this behavior.

However, you can
>use a free tool called Express ClickYes
>(http://www.express-soft.com/mailmate/clickyes.html) to

click the security
>dialog buttons automatically. Beware that this means if

a virus tries to
>send mail using Outlook or gain access to your address

book, it will
>succeed.
>
>"If you're the administrator in an Exchange Server

environment, you can
>reduce the impact of the security prompts with

administrative tools. See
>http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/admin.htm
>
>"If it's an application you wrote yourself, you can use

one of these
>approaches to redo the program:
>
> -- Use Extended MAPI (see

http://www.slipstick.com/dev/mapi.htm) and C++
>or Delphi; this is the most secure method and the only

one that Microsoft
>recommendeds.
>
> -- Use Redemption

(http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/), a third-party
>COM library that wraps around Extended MAPI but

parallels the Outlook Object
>Model
>
> -- Use SendKeys to "click" the buttons on the

security dialogs that your
>application may trigger. See
>http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec for

a link to sample
>code.
>
> -- Program the free Express ClickYes
>(http://www.express-soft.com/mailmate/clickyes.html)

tool to start suspended
>and turn it on only when your program needs to have the

buttons clicked
>automatically."
>
>--
>Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
>Outlook and Exchange solutions at

http://www.slipstick.com
>Author of
> Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
> for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> http://www.slipstick.com/books/jumpstart.htm
>
>END OF QUOTED MATERIAL
>
>
>
>
>--
>Cheryl Fischer
>Law/Sys Associates
>Houston, TX
>
>"Kylii" <kylii@internode.on.net> wrote in message
>news:09fc01c35b1e$fec78160$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> Where I work we use our database (access) to send out
>> mass email updates to members. We have recently

upgraded
>> to Windows and Office XP and Outlook does not like

having
>> another program sending emails for it. It thinks it's

a
>> potential virus and askes if you want to proceed (but
>> waits 5 seconds before offering the 'yes' option).
>> Windows and Office 2000 works fine under these

conditions
>> as we still have one computer with the old software.
>>
>> I have tried diabling the marcos, security levels in

both
>> Outlook and IE but nothing seems to work.
>>
>> Is there a way around this in Outlook XP or will I be
>> forced to downgrade my computer as well. If the latter
>> is required, would our licence still allow that?

>
>
>.
>

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Old 06-08-2003, 02:03 PM   #3
Cheryl Fischer
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> If I use the 'click yes' program however uninstall it
> after each time I need it, would that still prevent
> Outlook from potentially sending viruses?


Closing/exiting the ClickYes program will *only* eliminate its automated
response to the Outlook Security prompt. Preventing "Outlook from
potentially sending viruses" is the result of keeping your computer(s)
updated with all appropriate Microsoft security patches, a good
virus-checking program with up-to-date virus definitions, and a properly
installed and maintained firewall (software or hardware).

> Would the 'click yes' be suitable for my use when I am
> sending approxiamtely 3000+ emails each forthnight?


Yes. And, I would also encourage you to investigate the Redemption library.

>Or would downgrading to Outlook 2000 be the better option??


Absolutely not. I cannot think of any good reason for moving to a platform
or application which reduces security. Given the number of email viruses
now circulating and their potential for damage, would you really want to
risk your company's systems to infection by one of these viruses? You say
you are sending out 3000+ emails each fortnight... If these emails are
being sent to customers or potential customers, do you really want to risk
your company's good name by possibly sending virus-infected emails?

--
Cheryl Fischer
Law/Sys Associates
Houston, TX

"Kylii" <kylii@internode.on.net> wrote in message
news:050c01c35baa$52fd8460$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> If I use the 'click yes' program however uninstall it
> after each time I need it, would that still prevent
> Outlook from potentially sending viruses?
>
> Would the 'click yes' be suitable for my use when I am
> sending approxiamtely 3000+ emails each forthnight? Or
> would downgrading to Outlook 2000 be the better option??
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Questions regarding the Outlook Security prompt are

> asked very frequently.
> >The most complete answer has been provided by Outlook

> MVP Sue Mosher and is
> >as follows:
> >
> >
> >"The security dialogs that pop up when an application

> tries to access
> >certain Outlook properties and methods are designed to

> inhibit the spread of
> >viruses via Outlook; see
> >http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec. If

> you are a standalone
> >user, Outlook provides no way to suppress this behavior.

> However, you can
> >use a free tool called Express ClickYes
> >(http://www.express-soft.com/mailmate/clickyes.html) to

> click the security
> >dialog buttons automatically. Beware that this means if

> a virus tries to
> >send mail using Outlook or gain access to your address

> book, it will
> >succeed.
> >
> >"If you're the administrator in an Exchange Server

> environment, you can
> >reduce the impact of the security prompts with

> administrative tools. See
> >http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/admin.htm
> >
> >"If it's an application you wrote yourself, you can use

> one of these
> >approaches to redo the program:
> >
> > -- Use Extended MAPI (see

> http://www.slipstick.com/dev/mapi.htm) and C++
> >or Delphi; this is the most secure method and the only

> one that Microsoft
> >recommendeds.
> >
> > -- Use Redemption

> (http://www.dimastr.com/redemption/), a third-party
> >COM library that wraps around Extended MAPI but

> parallels the Outlook Object
> >Model
> >
> > -- Use SendKeys to "click" the buttons on the

> security dialogs that your
> >application may trigger. See
> >http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup.htm#autosec for

> a link to sample
> >code.
> >
> > -- Program the free Express ClickYes
> >(http://www.express-soft.com/mailmate/clickyes.html)

> tool to start suspended
> >and turn it on only when your program needs to have the

> buttons clicked
> >automatically."
> >
> >--
> >Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
> >Outlook and Exchange solutions at

> http://www.slipstick.com
> >Author of
> > Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
> > for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> > http://www.slipstick.com/books/jumpstart.htm
> >
> >END OF QUOTED MATERIAL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Cheryl Fischer
> >Law/Sys Associates
> >Houston, TX
> >
> >"Kylii" <kylii@internode.on.net> wrote in message
> >news:09fc01c35b1e$fec78160$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Where I work we use our database (access) to send out
> >> mass email updates to members. We have recently

> upgraded
> >> to Windows and Office XP and Outlook does not like

> having
> >> another program sending emails for it. It thinks it's

> a
> >> potential virus and askes if you want to proceed (but
> >> waits 5 seconds before offering the 'yes' option).
> >> Windows and Office 2000 works fine under these

> conditions
> >> as we still have one computer with the old software.
> >>
> >> I have tried diabling the marcos, security levels in

> both
> >> Outlook and IE but nothing seems to work.
> >>
> >> Is there a way around this in Outlook XP or will I be
> >> forced to downgrade my computer as well. If the latter
> >> is required, would our licence still allow that?

> >
> >
> >.
> >



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