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Old 21-01-2004, 05:59 PM   #1
Dogbreadth
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Default How do you use forms created in HTML


I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save as OFT
files to send to individual departments. Currently I use
them on the internet where the data is saved in a MySQL dB
but I would much rather cut out the step of going to the
website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in Outlook
2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but that would
be a great bonus if possible.
I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use the form
editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
Thanks in advance,
-jt.
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Old 21-01-2004, 06:51 PM   #2
Sue Mosher [MVP]
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If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off WordMail as the editor,
run the form, then use File | Save As.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save as OFT
> files to send to individual departments. Currently I use
> them on the internet where the data is saved in a MySQL dB
> but I would much rather cut out the step of going to the
> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in Outlook
> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but that would
> be a great bonus if possible.
> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use the form
> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
> Thanks in advance,
> -jt.



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Old 21-01-2004, 07:07 PM   #3
Dogbreadth
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Sue, Thanks for the reply!
When you say Wordmail I'm assuming you mean using word as
your editor which I don't do in the first place. And maybe
I didn't offer up exactly what my intentions were...
I just read a post about copy email message data to MySQL
which is what my html forms do. I want to do the same but
bypassing the web with my existing forms (Little League
game scoring, pitch counts, etc.). So how do I get those
forms into Outlook? I tried by pasting into a new message
and then saving as *.oft but when I open it all I see is
the html code. Are there certain tags that I shouldn't be
using that would cause the code to 'show'?
Maybe I should be pasting the code elsewhere and am going
about this wrong altogether?
And another very mportant question, Does the send then
actually post to the dB (what the form originally posts
to)?
Again, I appreciate your help/patience.
-jt.


>-----Original Message-----
>If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off

WordMail as the editor,
>run the form, then use File | Save As.
>--
>Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
>Author of
> Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>
>
>"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

in message
>news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save as OFT
>> files to send to individual departments. Currently I use
>> them on the internet where the data is saved in a MySQL

dB
>> but I would much rather cut out the step of going to the
>> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in Outlook
>> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but that

would
>> be a great bonus if possible.
>> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use the

form
>> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
>> Thanks in advance,
>> -jt.

>
>
>.
>

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Old 21-01-2004, 07:23 PM   #4
Sue Mosher [MVP]
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I don't know what you mean by "bypassing the web with my existing forms."
Are these web page forms?

Sending an Outlook message does not post data to a database, regardless of
what the message looks like. It just sends the message.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:171801c3e051$c1b9d4e0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Sue, Thanks for the reply!
> When you say Wordmail I'm assuming you mean using word as
> your editor which I don't do in the first place. And maybe
> I didn't offer up exactly what my intentions were...
> I just read a post about copy email message data to MySQL
> which is what my html forms do. I want to do the same but
> bypassing the web with my existing forms (Little League
> game scoring, pitch counts, etc.). So how do I get those
> forms into Outlook? I tried by pasting into a new message
> and then saving as *.oft but when I open it all I see is
> the html code. Are there certain tags that I shouldn't be
> using that would cause the code to 'show'?
> Maybe I should be pasting the code elsewhere and am going
> about this wrong altogether?
> And another very mportant question, Does the send then
> actually post to the dB (what the form originally posts
> to)?
> Again, I appreciate your help/patience.
> -jt.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off

> WordMail as the editor,
> >run the form, then use File | Save As.
> >--
> >Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
> >Author of
> > Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> > Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> > http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
> >
> >
> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> in message
> >news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save as OFT
> >> files to send to individual departments. Currently I use
> >> them on the internet where the data is saved in a MySQL

> dB
> >> but I would much rather cut out the step of going to the
> >> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in Outlook
> >> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but that

> would
> >> be a great bonus if possible.
> >> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use the

> form
> >> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> -jt.

> >
> >
> >.
> >



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Old 21-01-2004, 08:19 PM   #5
Dogbreadth
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Again, thanks for your reply.
Yes, they are web forms, sorry if that wasn't clear. And
like I said before, connecting to a dB or whatever is
optional as I believe I can accomplish the same basic
needs with Outlook. I did see a tool that does write the
mail message to MySQL but that is not my sole purpose. I
have dropdowns for selections and different fields that I
would like to use without having to recreate. Then users
could open them as form (OFT) with a predetermined
distribution (To, Cc, Bcc), fill in the fields and send it
off. My main point is I don't want to have to learn some
new tool that doesn't jump out as easy to use as the form
building tool supplied with Outlook appears to be.
If I don't have an option to somehow import my existing
HTML (web) forms then I guess I will need a link to some
help with the tool.
Thanks.

>-----Original Message-----
>I don't know what you mean by "bypassing the web with my

existing forms."
>Are these web page forms?
>
>Sending an Outlook message does not post data to a

database, regardless of
>what the message looks like. It just sends the message.
>--
>Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
>Author of
> Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>
>
>"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

in message
>news:171801c3e051$c1b9d4e0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> Sue, Thanks for the reply!
>> When you say Wordmail I'm assuming you mean using word

as
>> your editor which I don't do in the first place. And

maybe
>> I didn't offer up exactly what my intentions were...
>> I just read a post about copy email message data to

MySQL
>> which is what my html forms do. I want to do the same

but
>> bypassing the web with my existing forms (Little League
>> game scoring, pitch counts, etc.). So how do I get those
>> forms into Outlook? I tried by pasting into a new

message
>> and then saving as *.oft but when I open it all I see is
>> the html code. Are there certain tags that I shouldn't

be
>> using that would cause the code to 'show'?
>> Maybe I should be pasting the code elsewhere and am

going
>> about this wrong altogether?
>> And another very mportant question, Does the send then
>> actually post to the dB (what the form originally posts
>> to)?
>> Again, I appreciate your help/patience.
>> -jt.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off

>> WordMail as the editor,
>> >run the form, then use File | Save As.
>> >--
>> >Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
>> >Author of
>> > Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
>> > Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
>> > http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>> >
>> >
>> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote
>> in message
>> >news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save as

OFT
>> >> files to send to individual departments. Currently I

use
>> >> them on the internet where the data is saved in a

MySQL
>> dB
>> >> but I would much rather cut out the step of going to

the
>> >> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in

Outlook
>> >> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but that

>> would
>> >> be a great bonus if possible.
>> >> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use the

>> form
>> >> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
>> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> -jt.
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

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Old 21-01-2004, 10:35 PM   #6
Sue Mosher [MVP]
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Outlook forms and web forms are *totally* different.

That said, the HTML content of an Outlook HTML format message can contain an
HTML form and do either a GET or POST (but I keep forgetting which), but it
cannot run script.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx


"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:17d801c3e05b$ee203600$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Again, thanks for your reply.
> Yes, they are web forms, sorry if that wasn't clear. And
> like I said before, connecting to a dB or whatever is
> optional as I believe I can accomplish the same basic
> needs with Outlook. I did see a tool that does write the
> mail message to MySQL but that is not my sole purpose. I
> have dropdowns for selections and different fields that I
> would like to use without having to recreate. Then users
> could open them as form (OFT) with a predetermined
> distribution (To, Cc, Bcc), fill in the fields and send it
> off. My main point is I don't want to have to learn some
> new tool that doesn't jump out as easy to use as the form
> building tool supplied with Outlook appears to be.
> If I don't have an option to somehow import my existing
> HTML (web) forms then I guess I will need a link to some
> help with the tool.
> Thanks.
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I don't know what you mean by "bypassing the web with my

> existing forms."
> >Are these web page forms?
> >
> >Sending an Outlook message does not post data to a

> database, regardless of
> >what the message looks like. It just sends the message.


> >
> >
> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> in message
> >news:171801c3e051$c1b9d4e0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Sue, Thanks for the reply!
> >> When you say Wordmail I'm assuming you mean using word

> as
> >> your editor which I don't do in the first place. And

> maybe
> >> I didn't offer up exactly what my intentions were...
> >> I just read a post about copy email message data to

> MySQL
> >> which is what my html forms do. I want to do the same

> but
> >> bypassing the web with my existing forms (Little League
> >> game scoring, pitch counts, etc.). So how do I get those
> >> forms into Outlook? I tried by pasting into a new

> message
> >> and then saving as *.oft but when I open it all I see is
> >> the html code. Are there certain tags that I shouldn't

> be
> >> using that would cause the code to 'show'?
> >> Maybe I should be pasting the code elsewhere and am

> going
> >> about this wrong altogether?
> >> And another very mportant question, Does the send then
> >> actually post to the dB (what the form originally posts
> >> to)?
> >> Again, I appreciate your help/patience.
> >> -jt.
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off
> >> WordMail as the editor,
> >> >run the form, then use File | Save As.
> >> >--
> >> >Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
> >> >Author of
> >> > Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> >> > Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> >> > http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote
> >> in message
> >> >news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save as

> OFT
> >> >> files to send to individual departments. Currently I

> use
> >> >> them on the internet where the data is saved in a

> MySQL
> >> dB
> >> >> but I would much rather cut out the step of going to

> the
> >> >> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in

> Outlook
> >> >> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but that
> >> would
> >> >> be a great bonus if possible.
> >> >> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use the
> >> form
> >> >> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
> >> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> >> -jt.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >
> >
> >.
> >



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Old 21-01-2004, 10:58 PM   #7
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Ok,
So since they are completely different how do you propose
I go about achieving what I want to do. As I said before,
forget about the Post or Get! How about the dropdowns and
select fields that I want that I would hardly call a
script? I have laid out in my previous posts what I am
trying to accomplish and you keep harping back on scripts,
posts and gets...

>-----Original Message-----
>Outlook forms and web forms are *totally* different.
>
>That said, the HTML content of an Outlook HTML format

message can contain an
>HTML form and do either a GET or POST (but I keep

forgetting which), but it
>cannot run script.
>
>--
>Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
>Author of
> Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>
>
>"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

in message
>news:17d801c3e05b$ee203600$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> Again, thanks for your reply.
>> Yes, they are web forms, sorry if that wasn't clear. And
>> like I said before, connecting to a dB or whatever is
>> optional as I believe I can accomplish the same basic
>> needs with Outlook. I did see a tool that does write the
>> mail message to MySQL but that is not my sole purpose. I
>> have dropdowns for selections and different fields that

I
>> would like to use without having to recreate. Then users
>> could open them as form (OFT) with a predetermined
>> distribution (To, Cc, Bcc), fill in the fields and send

it
>> off. My main point is I don't want to have to learn some
>> new tool that doesn't jump out as easy to use as the

form
>> building tool supplied with Outlook appears to be.
>> If I don't have an option to somehow import my existing
>> HTML (web) forms then I guess I will need a link to some
>> help with the tool.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >I don't know what you mean by "bypassing the web with

my
>> existing forms."
>> >Are these web page forms?
>> >
>> >Sending an Outlook message does not post data to a

>> database, regardless of
>> >what the message looks like. It just sends the message.

>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote
>> in message
>> >news:171801c3e051$c1b9d4e0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Sue, Thanks for the reply!
>> >> When you say Wordmail I'm assuming you mean using

word
>> as
>> >> your editor which I don't do in the first place. And

>> maybe
>> >> I didn't offer up exactly what my intentions were...
>> >> I just read a post about copy email message data to

>> MySQL
>> >> which is what my html forms do. I want to do the same

>> but
>> >> bypassing the web with my existing forms (Little

League
>> >> game scoring, pitch counts, etc.). So how do I get

those
>> >> forms into Outlook? I tried by pasting into a new

>> message
>> >> and then saving as *.oft but when I open it all I

see is
>> >> the html code. Are there certain tags that I

shouldn't
>> be
>> >> using that would cause the code to 'show'?
>> >> Maybe I should be pasting the code elsewhere and am

>> going
>> >> about this wrong altogether?
>> >> And another very mportant question, Does the send

then
>> >> actually post to the dB (what the form originally

posts
>> >> to)?
>> >> Again, I appreciate your help/patience.
>> >> -jt.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off
>> >> WordMail as the editor,
>> >> >run the form, then use File | Save As.
>> >> >--
>> >> >Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
>> >> >Author of
>> >> > Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
>> >> > Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
>> >> > http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote
>> >> in message
>> >> >news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save

as
>> OFT
>> >> >> files to send to individual departments.

Currently I
>> use
>> >> >> them on the internet where the data is saved in a

>> MySQL
>> >> dB
>> >> >> but I would much rather cut out the step of going

to
>> the
>> >> >> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in

>> Outlook
>> >> >> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but

that
>> >> would
>> >> >> be a great bonus if possible.
>> >> >> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use

the
>> >> form
>> >> >> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
>> >> >> Thanks in advance,
>> >> >> -jt.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>
>
>.
>

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Old 22-01-2004, 12:58 AM   #8
Sue Mosher [MVP]
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> I have laid out in my previous posts what I am
> trying to accomplish and you keep harping back on scripts,
> posts and gets...


You originally described a web form that puts responses into a database.
Don't you think it was appropriate to explain why that won't translate
directly into an Outlook form, although some HTML form capability is
available in an HTML message? And don't you want to know what the
limitations of an .oft form are?

So far, all we know is that you envision an Outlook form that puts the
information that users enter somewhere. That's not much to go on. What kind
of information do you want to collect? Where is the information going to be
stored? What are you going to do with it when you get it? Do all the likely
users have Outlook?

Without knowing the answers to questions like that, it's impossible say
whether an Outlook form is even an appropriate solution. But if you want to
plow ahead into form design to see what it feels like, here are basic first
steps to construct the type of form you describe:

1) Turn off WordMail as your email editor (which you don't use, so you can
skip this step).
2) Create a new message.
3) Add the To, Cc and Bcc recipients for your predetermined distribution.
4) Choose Tools | Forms | Design This Form.
5) Remove the To and Cc fields from the form.
6) Use the Field Chooser to create custom properties to store data.
7) Use the control toolbox to add controls, binding a property to each
control on the control's Value tab.
8) On the (Properties) dialog, check the "Send form definition with item"
box.
9) Choose File | Save As to save as an .oft file.

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx



"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:199a01c3e072$102e4ff0$a101280a@phx.gbl...

> So since they are completely different how do you propose
> I go about achieving what I want to do. As I said before,
> forget about the Post or Get! How about the dropdowns and
> select fields that I want that I would hardly call a
> script?



>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Outlook forms and web forms are *totally* different.
> >
> >That said, the HTML content of an Outlook HTML format

> message can contain an
> >HTML form and do either a GET or POST (but I keep

> forgetting which), but it
> >cannot run script.


> >
> >
> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

> in message
> >news:17d801c3e05b$ee203600$a301280a@phx.gbl...


> >> Yes, they are web forms, sorry if that wasn't clear. And
> >> like I said before, connecting to a dB or whatever is
> >> optional as I believe I can accomplish the same basic
> >> needs with Outlook. I did see a tool that does write the
> >> mail message to MySQL but that is not my sole purpose. I
> >> have dropdowns for selections and different fields that

> I
> >> would like to use without having to recreate. Then users
> >> could open them as form (OFT) with a predetermined
> >> distribution (To, Cc, Bcc), fill in the fields and send

> it
> >> off. My main point is I don't want to have to learn some
> >> new tool that doesn't jump out as easy to use as the

> form
> >> building tool supplied with Outlook appears to be.
> >> If I don't have an option to somehow import my existing
> >> HTML (web) forms then I guess I will need a link to some
> >> help with the tool.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >I don't know what you mean by "bypassing the web with

> my
> >> existing forms."
> >> >Are these web page forms?
> >> >
> >> >Sending an Outlook message does not post data to a
> >> database, regardless of
> >> >what the message looks like. It just sends the message.

> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>

> wrote
> >> in message
> >> >news:171801c3e051$c1b9d4e0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Sue, Thanks for the reply!
> >> >> When you say Wordmail I'm assuming you mean using

> word
> >> as
> >> >> your editor which I don't do in the first place. And
> >> maybe
> >> >> I didn't offer up exactly what my intentions were...
> >> >> I just read a post about copy email message data to
> >> MySQL
> >> >> which is what my html forms do. I want to do the same
> >> but
> >> >> bypassing the web with my existing forms (Little

> League
> >> >> game scoring, pitch counts, etc.). So how do I get

> those
> >> >> forms into Outlook? I tried by pasting into a new
> >> message
> >> >> and then saving as *.oft but when I open it all I

> see is
> >> >> the html code. Are there certain tags that I

> shouldn't
> >> be
> >> >> using that would cause the code to 'show'?
> >> >> Maybe I should be pasting the code elsewhere and am
> >> going
> >> >> about this wrong altogether?
> >> >> And another very mportant question, Does the send

> then
> >> >> actually post to the dB (what the form originally

> posts
> >> >> to)?
> >> >> Again, I appreciate your help/patience.
> >> >> -jt.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off
> >> >> WordMail as the editor,
> >> >> >run the form, then use File | Save As.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
> >> wrote
> >> >> in message
> >> >> >news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to save

> as
> >> OFT
> >> >> >> files to send to individual departments.

> Currently I
> >> use
> >> >> >> them on the internet where the data is saved in a
> >> MySQL
> >> >> dB
> >> >> >> but I would much rather cut out the step of going

> to
> >> the
> >> >> >> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in
> >> Outlook
> >> >> >> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but

> that
> >> >> would
> >> >> >> be a great bonus if possible.
> >> >> >> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to use

> the
> >> >> form
> >> >> >> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
> >> >> >> Thanks in advance,



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Old 22-01-2004, 05:03 PM   #9
Dogbreadth
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Sorry it was so confusing. As I have continually stated I
DO NOT CARE IF THE DATA IS KEPT/STORED ANYWHERE
All I want is to be able to use the forms I created in
html that have dropdowns and selection boxes/pulldowns and
certain fields for people to fill out and then mail it.
THAT IS ALL
I guess the easiest way to go is to import/use my form as
a background and use that? GET IT??? THEY USE THE FORM BY
OPENING A OFT FILE/TEMPLATE THAT I HAD CREATED IN HTML AND
SIMPLY FILL OUT THE FIELDS IN MAIL TO SEND !
This is such a joke and typical of M$ products where you
need a freek'n degree to understand or do some of the
simplest things. I tested M$ products at RedWest for over
7 years so I am not some clueless end-user, in fact,
marketing hated me because I would never sign-off on the
crap they push out the door!
So the final answer I guess is no, there is no way to use
forms you already made in HTML and import them into
Outlook for use as an OFT template file. You have to
recreate them from scratch in a clugy interface.

>-----Original Message-----
>> I have laid out in my previous posts what I am
>> trying to accomplish and you keep harping back on

scripts,
>> posts and gets...

>
>You originally described a web form that puts responses

into a database.
>Don't you think it was appropriate to explain why that

won't translate
>directly into an Outlook form, although some HTML form

capability is
>available in an HTML message? And don't you want to know

what the
>limitations of an .oft form are?
>
>So far, all we know is that you envision an Outlook form

that puts the
>information that users enter somewhere. That's not much

to go on. What kind
>of information do you want to collect? Where is the

information going to be
>stored? What are you going to do with it when you get it?

Do all the likely
>users have Outlook?
>
>Without knowing the answers to questions like that, it's

impossible say
>whether an Outlook form is even an appropriate solution.

But if you want to
>plow ahead into form design to see what it feels like,

here are basic first
>steps to construct the type of form you describe:
>
>1) Turn off WordMail as your email editor (which you

don't use, so you can
>skip this step).
>2) Create a new message.
>3) Add the To, Cc and Bcc recipients for your

predetermined distribution.
>4) Choose Tools | Forms | Design This Form.
>5) Remove the To and Cc fields from the form.
>6) Use the Field Chooser to create custom properties to

store data.
>7) Use the control toolbox to add controls, binding a

property to each
>control on the control's Value tab.
>8) On the (Properties) dialog, check the "Send form

definition with item"
>box.
>9) Choose File | Save As to save as an .oft file.
>
>--
>Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
>Author of
> Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
> Administrators, Power Users, and Developers
> http://www.outlookcode.com/jumpstart.aspx
>
>
>
>"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

in message
>news:199a01c3e072$102e4ff0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>
>> So since they are completely different how do you

propose
>> I go about achieving what I want to do. As I said

before,
>> forget about the Post or Get! How about the dropdowns

and
>> select fields that I want that I would hardly call a
>> script?

>
>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Outlook forms and web forms are *totally* different.
>> >
>> >That said, the HTML content of an Outlook HTML format

>> message can contain an
>> >HTML form and do either a GET or POST (but I keep

>> forgetting which), but it
>> >cannot run script.

>
>> >
>> >
>> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>

wrote
>> in message
>> >news:17d801c3e05b$ee203600$a301280a@phx.gbl...

>
>> >> Yes, they are web forms, sorry if that wasn't clear.

And
>> >> like I said before, connecting to a dB or whatever is
>> >> optional as I believe I can accomplish the same basic
>> >> needs with Outlook. I did see a tool that does write

the
>> >> mail message to MySQL but that is not my sole

purpose. I
>> >> have dropdowns for selections and different fields

that
>> I
>> >> would like to use without having to recreate. Then

users
>> >> could open them as form (OFT) with a predetermined
>> >> distribution (To, Cc, Bcc), fill in the fields and

send
>> it
>> >> off. My main point is I don't want to have to learn

some
>> >> new tool that doesn't jump out as easy to use as the

>> form
>> >> building tool supplied with Outlook appears to be.
>> >> If I don't have an option to somehow import my

existing
>> >> HTML (web) forms then I guess I will need a link to

some
>> >> help with the tool.
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >I don't know what you mean by "bypassing the web

with
>> my
>> >> existing forms."
>> >> >Are these web page forms?
>> >> >
>> >> >Sending an Outlook message does not post data to a
>> >> database, regardless of
>> >> >what the message looks like. It just sends the

message.
>> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Dogbreadth" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>

>> wrote
>> >> in message
>> >> >news:171801c3e051$c1b9d4e0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Sue, Thanks for the reply!
>> >> >> When you say Wordmail I'm assuming you mean using

>> word
>> >> as
>> >> >> your editor which I don't do in the first place.

And
>> >> maybe
>> >> >> I didn't offer up exactly what my intentions

were...
>> >> >> I just read a post about copy email message data

to
>> >> MySQL
>> >> >> which is what my html forms do. I want to do the

same
>> >> but
>> >> >> bypassing the web with my existing forms (Little

>> League
>> >> >> game scoring, pitch counts, etc.). So how do I get

>> those
>> >> >> forms into Outlook? I tried by pasting into a new
>> >> message
>> >> >> and then saving as *.oft but when I open it all I

>> see is
>> >> >> the html code. Are there certain tags that I

>> shouldn't
>> >> be
>> >> >> using that would cause the code to 'show'?
>> >> >> Maybe I should be pasting the code elsewhere and

am
>> >> going
>> >> >> about this wrong altogether?
>> >> >> And another very mportant question, Does the send

>> then
>> >> >> actually post to the dB (what the form originally

>> posts
>> >> >> to)?
>> >> >> Again, I appreciate your help/patience.
>> >> >> -jt.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >If you want to save forms as .oft files, turn off
>> >> >> WordMail as the editor,
>> >> >> >run the form, then use File | Save As.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Dogbreadth"

<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote
>> >> >> in message
>> >> >> >news:166c01c3e048$46b54da0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> I have a bunch of forms that I would like to

save
>> as
>> >> OFT
>> >> >> >> files to send to individual departments.

>> Currently I
>> >> use
>> >> >> >> them on the internet where the data is saved

in a
>> >> MySQL
>> >> >> dB
>> >> >> >> but I would much rather cut out the step of

going
>> to
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> website. Is there anyway to accomplish this in
>> >> Outlook
>> >> >> >> 2002? I could bypass the submission to a dB but

>> that
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> >> be a great bonus if possible.
>> >> >> >> I really don't want to have to 'learn' how to

use
>> the
>> >> >> form
>> >> >> >> editor tool as it is not the most logicalware.
>> >> >> >> Thanks in advance,

>
>
>.
>

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Whoops, the two textboxes in that sample I gave you have the same name, plus of course the submitting server won't exist, but it should still try and send the informatioon to a server.

BTW, if microsoft products are so lousy, why did you work with them for 7 years, and why do you still use their product? Nothing better out there perhaps?
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