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Old 16-04-2004, 08:43 PM   #1
Raven
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Ok, this is driving me nuts:

Have two machines (both PIII). Have SMC Barricade
7004ABR Hub. These have been networked for quite a
while (over a year) and worked fine. I decided to
format both HDD and now the network is down. Here's what
I got:

Big machine :WInXP Pro, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
machine can see itself and the other machine on the
network. It can only access its own files.

Little machine: Win2K, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
machine can only see itself on the network, it cannot see
the big machine at all. I have removed and reinstalled
the TCP/IP and NetBEUI protocols. No fix.

Both machines can access the internet, and router setup
screens. I have tried cables, NICs, reinstalling OSs...
I'm at a loss. I believe the problem is with the Win2K
box, but I am uncertain. Can anyone steering me in the
proper direction?

Thanks
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Old 16-04-2004, 08:54 PM   #2
Chad Mahoney
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Raven wrote:

> Ok, this is driving me nuts:
>
> Have two machines (both PIII). Have SMC Barricade
> 7004ABR Hub. These have been networked for quite a
> while (over a year) and worked fine. I decided to
> format both HDD and now the network is down. Here's what
> I got:
>
> Big machine :WInXP Pro, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
> machine can see itself and the other machine on the
> network. It can only access its own files.
>
> Little machine: Win2K, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
> machine can only see itself on the network, it cannot see
> the big machine at all. I have removed and reinstalled
> the TCP/IP and NetBEUI protocols. No fix.
>
> Both machines can access the internet, and router setup
> screens. I have tried cables, NICs, reinstalling OSs...
> I'm at a loss. I believe the problem is with the Win2K
> box, but I am uncertain. Can anyone steering me in the
> proper direction?
>
> Thanks



I believe your workgroup name " HOME NETWORK" is going to be a problem.

try home_network or home-network
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Old 16-04-2004, 08:56 PM   #3
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Raven wrote:

> Ok, this is driving me nuts:
>
> Have two machines (both PIII). Have SMC Barricade
> 7004ABR Hub. These have been networked for quite a
> while (over a year) and worked fine. I decided to
> format both HDD and now the network is down. Here's what
> I got:
>
> Big machine :WInXP Pro, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
> machine can see itself and the other machine on the
> network. It can only access its own files.
>
> Little machine: Win2K, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
> machine can only see itself on the network, it cannot see
> the big machine at all. I have removed and reinstalled
> the TCP/IP and NetBEUI protocols. No fix.
>
> Both machines can access the internet, and router setup
> screens. I have tried cables, NICs, reinstalling OSs...
> I'm at a loss. I believe the problem is with the Win2K
> box, but I am uncertain. Can anyone steering me in the
> proper direction?
>
> Thanks



Just to clarify from this site http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/names.htm

workgroup names can not contain spaces...


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Old 16-04-2004, 09:10 PM   #4
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>
>I believe your workgroup name " HOME NETWORK" is going

to be a problem.
>
>try home_network or home-network
>.


Ok, I've tried "HOME_NETWORK" ... no fix.
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Old 16-04-2004, 09:20 PM   #5
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>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>I believe your workgroup name " HOME NETWORK" is going

>to be a problem.
>>
>>try home_network or home-network
>>.

>
>Ok, I've tried "HOME_NETWORK" ... no fix.
>.
>

Some other items I forgot to included: the WinXP machine
has the following installed/reinstalled NWLink NetBIOS,
NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocal,
TCP/IP... not sure if that helps or not.
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Old 16-04-2004, 10:00 PM   #6
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anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com wrote:

>>I believe your workgroup name " HOME NETWORK" is going

>
> to be a problem.
>
>>try home_network or home-network
>>.

>
>
> Ok, I've tried "HOME_NETWORK" ... no fix.



I assume you can ping between both PC's by IP?
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Old 16-04-2004, 10:02 PM   #7
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Raven wrote:

>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>>I believe your workgroup name " HOME NETWORK" is going

>>
>>to be a problem.
>>
>>>try home_network or home-network
>>>.

>>
>>Ok, I've tried "HOME_NETWORK" ... no fix.
>>.
>>

>
> Some other items I forgot to included: the WinXP machine
> has the following installed/reinstalled NWLink NetBIOS,
> NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocal,
> TCP/IP... not sure if that helps or not.

remove everything but tcp/ip unless you connect to some type of novell
network. tcp/ip is all you need for a peer to peer network
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Old 16-04-2004, 10:15 PM   #8
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>
>I assume you can ping between both PC's by IP?
>.
>

Yes, I can ping both in either direction.
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Old 16-04-2004, 11:47 PM   #9
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>> Some other items I forgot to included: the WinXP

machine
>> has the following installed/reinstalled NWLink

NetBIOS,
>> NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocal,
>> TCP/IP... not sure if that helps or not.

>remove everything but tcp/ip unless you connect to some

type of novell
>network. tcp/ip is all you need for a peer to peer

network
>.
>


Ok, I've removed everything from both machines... reboot
Reinstalled on both Client, File Share, TCP/IP... reboot
Setup new names Comp1 = Earth, Comp2 = Mars, Work group =
Terran... reboot

Earth (originally the big computer) can see both Earth
and Mars. Can only access Earth.

Mars, now cannot log onto Terran network at all. All
permisions & shares have been set on this one.

I'm getting ready to give up.
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Old 17-04-2004, 10:34 AM   #10
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did u check event viewer on both for errors?
disable the master browser on one of them.
then create a user account with a common name and same passowrd on both
logon with that and see if it works.
www.pctechnicians.ca
w2k tips
for instructions on disabling master browser.

"Chad Mahoney" <spamme@mah0ney.com> wrote in message
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> Raven wrote:
>
> > Ok, this is driving me nuts:
> >
> > Have two machines (both PIII). Have SMC Barricade
> > 7004ABR Hub. These have been networked for quite a
> > while (over a year) and worked fine. I decided to
> > format both HDD and now the network is down. Here's what
> > I got:
> >
> > Big machine :WInXP Pro, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
> > machine can see itself and the other machine on the
> > network. It can only access its own files.
> >
> > Little machine: Win2K, workgroup "HOME NETWORK". This
> > machine can only see itself on the network, it cannot see
> > the big machine at all. I have removed and reinstalled
> > the TCP/IP and NetBEUI protocols. No fix.
> >
> > Both machines can access the internet, and router setup
> > screens. I have tried cables, NICs, reinstalling OSs...
> > I'm at a loss. I believe the problem is with the Win2K
> > box, but I am uncertain. Can anyone steering me in the
> > proper direction?
> >
> > Thanks

>
>
> Just to clarify from this site http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/names.htm
>
> workgroup names can not contain spaces...
>
>
> Chad



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