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Old 07-01-2005, 04:18 AM   #1
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I ran it and it freaked me out. 3 threats, how could that
be! I'm an SA. The only worms, viruses, and spyware I have
are in my sand box and I know about all of them.

Good thing I know something about what I'm looking at and
I decided to look at what it was having trouble with
rather than just blindly letting it reap havoc with my
computer.

InstSrv (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless instsrv.exe
tool in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows you
to register an .exe application to run as a service.

WinLog (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless srvany.exe
in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows
registered .exe applications to run as a service.

Cyanure (RAT) turned out to be the remote.exe application
in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000 SUPPORT TOOLS that allows
you to establish remote command line access between a
client and server.

You would think that Microsoft could at least manage not
to identify its own software as malware. It's troubling to
think that in the hands of inexperienced users this thing
might go fourth and gobble up critical O/S files. This
thing is not ready for users who cannot make
recommendations on their own. It's nice that it flags
potential trouble, but is currently in a state where an
experienced SA must be making the final informed decision
since you may or may not actually have the problem that it
says that you have. It's probably safe to say, though,
that it will eliminate the threat - a system that won't
function really isn't a threat to anyone.

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Old 07-01-2005, 05:10 AM   #2
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Default Politically Correct Microsoft Haters

Jesus help us. A company gives away a pretty good
product for free and all of the freaks that hate
microsoft come out of the woodwork to use product and
complain about it? Hey Dude. What does Beta mean? Look
that up online. In the meantime post your constructive
criticism and keep your I hate microsoft comments to
yourself. You could also quit bragging so much about
your ability as such a fantastic computer expert.

AAAAhhhhhhh Freak out. That's how the song goes.

What does SA mean? Stupid Arse? lol


>-----Original Message-----
>I ran it and it freaked me out. 3 threats, how could

that
>be! I'm an SA. The only worms, viruses, and spyware I

have
>are in my sand box and I know about all of them.
>
>Good thing I know something about what I'm looking at

and
>I decided to look at what it was having trouble with
>rather than just blindly letting it reap havoc with my
>computer.
>
>InstSrv (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless

instsrv.exe
>tool in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows

you
>to register an .exe application to run as a service.
>
>WinLog (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless srvany.exe
>in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows
>registered .exe applications to run as a service.
>
>Cyanure (RAT) turned out to be the remote.exe

application
>in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000 SUPPORT TOOLS that allows
>you to establish remote command line access between a
>client and server.
>
>You would think that Microsoft could at least manage not
>to identify its own software as malware. It's troubling

to
>think that in the hands of inexperienced users this

thing
>might go fourth and gobble up critical O/S files. This
>thing is not ready for users who cannot make
>recommendations on their own. It's nice that it flags
>potential trouble, but is currently in a state where an
>experienced SA must be making the final informed

decision
>since you may or may not actually have the problem that

it
>says that you have. It's probably safe to say, though,
>that it will eliminate the threat - a system that won't
>function really isn't a threat to anyone.
>
>.
>

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Old 07-01-2005, 02:11 PM   #3
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Well, I don't think it is unjust to complain.
The state of this software is clearly alpha, not beta.
Looks like microsoft hasn't really tested this before
releasing it as beta.

A much better fix against spyware: use another browser
than IE. I haven't had any trouble with spyware whatsoever
since I switched to Firefox.
And apart from the spyware probs with Internet Exploder,
Firefox is much more standards compliant.

Why does Microsoft try to create a anti-spyware tool (when
there are already a lot of good ones) when they should be
fixing their stinking browser?

It's all about $$$ I guess ...

>-----Original Message-----
>Jesus help us. A company gives away a pretty good
>product for free and all of the freaks that hate
>microsoft come out of the woodwork to use product and
>complain about it? Hey Dude. What does Beta mean? Look
>that up online. In the meantime post your constructive
>criticism and keep your I hate microsoft comments to
>yourself. You could also quit bragging so much about
>your ability as such a fantastic computer expert.
>
>AAAAhhhhhhh Freak out. That's how the song goes.
>
>What does SA mean? Stupid Arse? lol
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I ran it and it freaked me out. 3 threats, how could

>that
>>be! I'm an SA. The only worms, viruses, and spyware I

>have
>>are in my sand box and I know about all of them.
>>
>>Good thing I know something about what I'm looking at

>and
>>I decided to look at what it was having trouble with
>>rather than just blindly letting it reap havoc with my
>>computer.
>>
>>InstSrv (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless

>instsrv.exe
>>tool in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows

>you
>>to register an .exe application to run as a service.
>>
>>WinLog (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless srvany.exe
>>in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows
>>registered .exe applications to run as a service.
>>
>>Cyanure (RAT) turned out to be the remote.exe

>application
>>in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000 SUPPORT TOOLS that allows
>>you to establish remote command line access between a
>>client and server.
>>
>>You would think that Microsoft could at least manage not
>>to identify its own software as malware. It's troubling

>to
>>think that in the hands of inexperienced users this

>thing
>>might go fourth and gobble up critical O/S files. This
>>thing is not ready for users who cannot make
>>recommendations on their own. It's nice that it flags
>>potential trouble, but is currently in a state where an
>>experienced SA must be making the final informed

>decision
>>since you may or may not actually have the problem that

>it
>>says that you have. It's probably safe to say, though,
>>that it will eliminate the threat - a system that won't
>>function really isn't a threat to anyone.
>>
>>.
>>

>.
>

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Old 07-01-2005, 03:14 PM   #4
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Just a clarification, You mentioned that there are a lot of "good ones
already out there"

MS appears to agree with you to the extenct that they purchased one rather
than waste time re-inventing the wheel.

MS Anti-Spyware software is Giant's Anti-spyware, re-branded as MS's own.


And, to be fair, Firefox has it's own security issues to deal with.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/se...39183106,00.htm
http://www.infoworld.com/article/05...illabugs_1.html



"Marcus" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05a601c4f4cb$290294f0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> Well, I don't think it is unjust to complain.
> The state of this software is clearly alpha, not beta.
> Looks like microsoft hasn't really tested this before
> releasing it as beta.
>
> A much better fix against spyware: use another browser
> than IE. I haven't had any trouble with spyware whatsoever
> since I switched to Firefox.
> And apart from the spyware probs with Internet Exploder,
> Firefox is much more standards compliant.
>
> Why does Microsoft try to create a anti-spyware tool (when
> there are already a lot of good ones) when they should be
> fixing their stinking browser?
>
> It's all about $$$ I guess ...
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Jesus help us. A company gives away a pretty good
>>product for free and all of the freaks that hate
>>microsoft come out of the woodwork to use product and
>>complain about it? Hey Dude. What does Beta mean? Look
>>that up online. In the meantime post your constructive
>>criticism and keep your I hate microsoft comments to
>>yourself. You could also quit bragging so much about
>>your ability as such a fantastic computer expert.
>>
>>AAAAhhhhhhh Freak out. That's how the song goes.
>>
>>What does SA mean? Stupid Arse? lol
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I ran it and it freaked me out. 3 threats, how could

>>that
>>>be! I'm an SA. The only worms, viruses, and spyware I

>>have
>>>are in my sand box and I know about all of them.
>>>
>>>Good thing I know something about what I'm looking at

>>and
>>>I decided to look at what it was having trouble with
>>>rather than just blindly letting it reap havoc with my
>>>computer.
>>>
>>>InstSrv (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless

>>instsrv.exe
>>>tool in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows

>>you
>>>to register an .exe application to run as a service.
>>>
>>>WinLog (Trojan) turned out to be the harmless srvany.exe
>>>in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS RESOURCE KIT that allows
>>>registered .exe applications to run as a service.
>>>
>>>Cyanure (RAT) turned out to be the remote.exe

>>application
>>>in the MICROSOFT WINDOWS 2000 SUPPORT TOOLS that allows
>>>you to establish remote command line access between a
>>>client and server.
>>>
>>>You would think that Microsoft could at least manage not
>>>to identify its own software as malware. It's troubling

>>to
>>>think that in the hands of inexperienced users this

>>thing
>>>might go fourth and gobble up critical O/S files. This
>>>thing is not ready for users who cannot make
>>>recommendations on their own. It's nice that it flags
>>>potential trouble, but is currently in a state where an
>>>experienced SA must be making the final informed

>>decision
>>>since you may or may not actually have the problem that

>>it
>>>says that you have. It's probably safe to say, though,
>>>that it will eliminate the threat - a system that won't
>>>function really isn't a threat to anyone.
>>>
>>>.
>>>

>>.
>>



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