Extremely damaging false positive

Adoption of Microsoft Anti-Spyware threatens the entire
installed base of all Grand Virtual's products, and new
installations via direct download or CD-ROM.

MS Anti-Spyware mis-identifies *all* of Grand Virtual's
applications as "CashDialer", labelling them a severe
threat. It recommends deletion of everything installed
under the c:\Program Files\grandvirtual directory.

Giant's virus/spyware directory is offline, and Microsoft
hasn't put it back online. Fortunately, Google cached the
CashDialer page at http://64.233.161.104/search?
q=cache:8fyaT6FJeOoJ:www.giantcompany.com/antispyware/resea
rch/spyware/spyware-CashDialer.aspx+cashdialer&hl=en.

Grand Virtual views this situation with the utmost
seriousness and expect Microsoft to take *immediate*
action to remedy the situation.

Grand Virtual is a long-term Microsoft customer and MSDN
subscriber. We are part of a publicly traded (Nasdaq)
company. We manufacture gaming software in 16 languages
for the worldwide market. For compatibility testing,
software download is accessible via:

http://www.CasinoElegance.com
http://www.CasinoFantasy.com
http://www.EverestPoker.com

We have several additional sites, and a private labelling
capability.

Please contact us at realworldlab@grandvirtual.com, Office
of the CTO at Grand Virtual at 617-547-6323.

The only way to contact Microsoft with this type of request is through the
official vendor dispute process. This is located at
http://www.spynet.com/vendors.aspx.

--

Zachary Gutt
Technical Product Manager
Microsoft Corporation

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.



"Grand Virtual RWL" <realworldlab@grandvirtual.com> wrote in message
news:086801c4f458$418f5b70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Adoption of Microsoft Anti-Spyware threatens the entire
> installed base of all Grand Virtual's products, and new
> installations via direct download or CD-ROM.
>
> MS Anti-Spyware mis-identifies *all* of Grand Virtual's
> applications as "CashDialer", labelling them a severe
> threat. It recommends deletion of everything installed
> under the c:\Program Files\grandvirtual directory.
>
> Giant's virus/spyware directory is offline, and Microsoft
> hasn't put it back online. Fortunately, Google cached the
> CashDialer page at http://64.233.161.104/search?
> q=cache:8fyaT6FJeOoJ:www.giantcompany.com/antispyware/resea
> rch/spyware/spyware-CashDialer.aspx+cashdialer&hl=en.
>
> Grand Virtual views this situation with the utmost
> seriousness and expect Microsoft to take *immediate*
> action to remedy the situation.
>
> Grand Virtual is a long-term Microsoft customer and MSDN
> subscriber. We are part of a publicly traded (Nasdaq)
> company. We manufacture gaming software in 16 languages
> for the worldwide market. For compatibility testing,
> software download is accessible via:
>
> http://www.CasinoElegance.com
> http://www.CasinoFantasy.com
> http://www.EverestPoker.com
>
> We have several additional sites, and a private labelling
> capability.
>
> Please contact us at realworldlab@grandvirtual.com, Office
> of the CTO at Grand Virtual at 617-547-6323.
>

ALL anti-spyware applications should identify online
casino software as a threat. Not only is online gambling
illegal in the US, where Microsoft is based, but 99% of
online-casino software is or contains spyware and/or
trojans of some sort (typically dialers).

The level of threat, however, is negotiable. Since you
provide hard-copies (CD-ROM versions) of the software, it
should probably be auto-ignored.

>-----Original Message-----
>Adoption of Microsoft Anti-Spyware threatens the entire
>installed base of all Grand Virtual's products, and new
>installations via direct download or CD-ROM.
>
>MS Anti-Spyware mis-identifies *all* of Grand Virtual's
>applications as "CashDialer", labelling them a severe
>threat. It recommends deletion of everything installed
>under the c:\Program Files\grandvirtual directory.
>
>Giant's virus/spyware directory is offline, and Microsoft
>hasn't put it back online. Fortunately, Google cached
the
>CashDialer page at http://64.233.161.104/search?
>q=cache:8fyaT6FJeOoJ:www.giantcompany.com/antispyware/rese
a
>rch/spyware/spyware-CashDialer.aspx+cashdialer&hl=en.
>
>Grand Virtual views this situation with the utmost
>seriousness and expect Microsoft to take *immediate*
>action to remedy the situation.
>
>Grand Virtual is a long-term Microsoft customer and MSDN
>subscriber. We are part of a publicly traded (Nasdaq)
>company. We manufacture gaming software in 16 languages
>for the worldwide market. For compatibility testing,
>software download is accessible via:
>
>http://www.CasinoElegance.com
>http://www.CasinoFantasy.com
>http://www.EverestPoker.com
>
>We have several additional sites, and a private labelling
>capability.
>
>Please contact us at realworldlab@grandvirtual.com,
Office
>of the CTO at Grand Virtual at 617-547-6323.
>
>.
>

"online gambling in the us is illegal"

Uh really when was that decided? last I checked a case had
not gone to court to dispute the legality, and the us
congress has passed no laws banning it.




>-----Original Message-----
>ALL anti-spyware applications should identify online
>casino software as a threat. Not only is online gambling
>illegal in the US, where Microsoft is based, but 99% of
>online-casino software is or contains spyware and/or
>trojans of some sort (typically dialers).
>
>The level of threat, however, is negotiable. Since you
>provide hard-copies (CD-ROM versions) of the software, it
>should probably be auto-ignored.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Adoption of Microsoft Anti-Spyware threatens the entire
>>installed base of all Grand Virtual's products, and new
>>installations via direct download or CD-ROM.
>>
>>MS Anti-Spyware mis-identifies *all* of Grand Virtual's
>>applications as "CashDialer", labelling them a severe
>>threat. It recommends deletion of everything installed
>>under the c:\Program Files\grandvirtual directory.
>>
>>Giant's virus/spyware directory is offline, and
Microsoft
>>hasn't put it back online. Fortunately, Google cached
>the
>>CashDialer page at http://64.233.161.104/search?
>>q=cache:8fyaT6FJeOoJ:www.giantcompany.com/antispyware/res
e
>a
>>rch/spyware/spyware-CashDialer.aspx+cashdialer&hl=en.
>>
>>Grand Virtual views this situation with the utmost
>>seriousness and expect Microsoft to take *immediate*
>>action to remedy the situation.
>>
>>Grand Virtual is a long-term Microsoft customer and MSDN
>>subscriber. We are part of a publicly traded (Nasdaq)
>>company. We manufacture gaming software in 16 languages
>>for the worldwide market. For compatibility testing,
>>software download is accessible via:
>>
>>http://www.CasinoElegance.com
>>http://www.CasinoFantasy.com
>>http://www.EverestPoker.com
>>
>>We have several additional sites, and a private
labelling
>>capability.
>>
>>Please contact us at realworldlab@grandvirtual.com,
>Office
>>of the CTO at Grand Virtual at 617-547-6323.
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Hee Hee
All those gamblers not being able to gamble. That really
upsets me.

I wonder how many other gambling spyware things it
disables? Hopefully all of them. Hee Hee


>-----Original Message-----
>Adoption of Microsoft Anti-Spyware threatens the entire
>installed base of all Grand Virtual's products, and new
>installations via direct download or CD-ROM.
>
>MS Anti-Spyware mis-identifies *all* of Grand Virtual's
>applications as "CashDialer", labelling them a severe
>threat. It recommends deletion of everything installed
>under the c:\Program Files\grandvirtual directory.
>
>Giant's virus/spyware directory is offline, and
Microsoft
>hasn't put it back online. Fortunately, Google cached
the
>CashDialer page at http://64.233.161.104/search?
>q=cache:8fyaT6FJeOoJ:www.giantcompany.com/antispyware/res
ea
>rch/spyware/spyware-CashDialer.aspx+cashdialer&hl=en.
>
>Grand Virtual views this situation with the utmost
>seriousness and expect Microsoft to take *immediate*
>action to remedy the situation.
>
>Grand Virtual is a long-term Microsoft customer and MSDN
>subscriber. We are part of a publicly traded (Nasdaq)
>company. We manufacture gaming software in 16 languages
>for the worldwide market. For compatibility testing,
>software download is accessible via:
>
>http://www.CasinoElegance.com
>http://www.CasinoFantasy.com
>http://www.EverestPoker.com
>
>We have several additional sites, and a private
labelling
>capability.
>
>Please contact us at realworldlab@grandvirtual.com,
Office
>of the CTO at Grand Virtual at 617-547-6323.
>
>.
>

Putting any type of spyware or malware on anyone's
computer should be illegal. That is the issue, not your
right to gamble.


>-----Original Message-----
>"online gambling in the us is illegal"
>
>Uh really when was that decided? last I checked a case
had
>not gone to court to dispute the legality, and the us
>congress has passed no laws banning it.
>
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>ALL anti-spyware applications should identify online
>>casino software as a threat. Not only is online
gambling
>>illegal in the US, where Microsoft is based, but 99% of
>>online-casino software is or contains spyware and/or
>>trojans of some sort (typically dialers).
>>
>>The level of threat, however, is negotiable. Since you
>>provide hard-copies (CD-ROM versions) of the software,
it
>>should probably be auto-ignored.
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Adoption of Microsoft Anti-Spyware threatens the
entire
>>>installed base of all Grand Virtual's products, and
new
>>>installations via direct download or CD-ROM.
>>>
>>>MS Anti-Spyware mis-identifies *all* of Grand
Virtual's
>>>applications as "CashDialer", labelling them a severe
>>>threat. It recommends deletion of everything
installed
>>>under the c:\Program Files\grandvirtual directory.
>>>
>>>Giant's virus/spyware directory is offline, and
>Microsoft
>>>hasn't put it back online. Fortunately, Google cached
>>the
>>>CashDialer page at http://64.233.161.104/search?
>>>q=cache:8fyaT6FJeOoJ:www.giantcompany.com/antispyware/r
es
>e
>>a
>>>rch/spyware/spyware-CashDialer.aspx+cashdialer&hl=en.
>>>
>>>Grand Virtual views this situation with the utmost
>>>seriousness and expect Microsoft to take *immediate*
>>>action to remedy the situation.
>>>
>>>Grand Virtual is a long-term Microsoft customer and
MSDN
>>>subscriber. We are part of a publicly traded (Nasdaq)
>>>company. We manufacture gaming software in 16
languages
>>>for the worldwide market. For compatibility testing,
>>>software download is accessible via:
>>>
>>>http://www.CasinoElegance.com
>>>http://www.CasinoFantasy.com
>>>http://www.EverestPoker.com
>>>
>>>We have several additional sites, and a private
>labelling
>>>capability.
>>>
>>>Please contact us at realworldlab@grandvirtual.com,
>>Office
>>>of the CTO at Grand Virtual at 617-547-6323.
>>>
>>>.
>>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

Zachary -

http://www.spynet.com/vendors.aspx is offline. Starting
about 1 hour ago, the domain does not even resolve. I've
tried this across the Internet. MSN can't even locate the
spynet.com domain. Please, please help!!!

Thx

>-----Original Message-----
>The only way to contact Microsoft with this type of
request is through the
>official vendor dispute process. This is located at
>http://www.spynet.com/vendors.aspx.
>
>--
>
>Zachary Gutt
>Technical Product Manager
>Microsoft Corporation
>
>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
>
>
>
>"Grand Virtual RWL" <realworldlab@grandvirtual.com> wrote
in message
>news:086801c4f458$418f5b70$a301280a@phx.gbl...
>> Adoption of Microsoft Anti-Spyware threatens the entire
>> installed base of all Grand Virtual's products, and new
>> installations via direct download or CD-ROM.
>>
>> MS Anti-Spyware mis-identifies *all* of Grand Virtual's
>> applications as "CashDialer", labelling them a severe
>> threat. It recommends deletion of everything installed
>> under the c:\Program Files\grandvirtual directory.
>>
>> Giant's virus/spyware directory is offline, and
Microsoft
>> hasn't put it back online. Fortunately, Google cached
the
>> CashDialer page at http://64.233.161.104/search?
>>
q=cache:8fyaT6FJeOoJ:www.giantcompany.com/antispyware/resea
>> rch/spyware/spyware-CashDialer.aspx+cashdialer&hl=en.
>>
>> Grand Virtual views this situation with the utmost
>> seriousness and expect Microsoft to take *immediate*
>> action to remedy the situation.
>>
>> Grand Virtual is a long-term Microsoft customer and MSDN
>> subscriber. We are part of a publicly traded (Nasdaq)
>> company. We manufacture gaming software in 16 languages
>> for the worldwide market. For compatibility testing,
>> software download is accessible via:
>>
>> http://www.CasinoElegance.com
>> http://www.CasinoFantasy.com
>> http://www.EverestPoker.com
>>
>> We have several additional sites, and a private
labelling
>> capability.
>>
>> Please contact us at realworldlab@grandvirtual.com,
Office
>> of the CTO at Grand Virtual at 617-547-6323.
>>
>
>
>.
>