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Old 06-01-2005, 05:42 PM   #1
vonGrepa
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Hi again.

I find it strange that MS_AS repoarts MsgPlus. First its
reported then you say that this application might contain
spyware.. As u state this is an option during install of
MsgPlus.

I find it more usefull if u dont report MsgPlus but the
actuall spyware that could have been installed.. I never
installed the optional spyware, thus i should not see any
warnings about it. An un skilled user will be confused and
some might try to uninstall the MsgPlus just to get rid of
some spyware that they dont have.. Or.. if they have it
they will be forced to remove both MsgPlus and the
spyware..

So again: Report the spyware, not the the host.

/vonGrepa
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:50 PM   #2
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hi vonGrepa,

As there are numerous cases where end-users declined to have the
"sponsor bundle" (read - spyware) installed yet found Lop to be on their
system WITHOUT being notified during automatic update of MsgPlus, I
think its fair for the program to flag Msgplus in any way it sees fit.

Also, seeing as many of the worst kinds of installs come bundled with
otherwise "clean" programs in and of themselves due to very spurious
EULA's, I think reporting the spyware but not the host would set a
potentially dangerous precedent.

Regards,
Paperghost
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vonGrepa wrote:
> Hi again.
>
> I find it strange that MS_AS repoarts MsgPlus. First its
> reported then you say that this application might contain
> spyware.. As u state this is an option during install of
> MsgPlus.
>
> I find it more usefull if u dont report MsgPlus but the
> actuall spyware that could have been installed.. I never
> installed the optional spyware, thus i should not see any
> warnings about it. An un skilled user will be confused and
> some might try to uninstall the MsgPlus just to get rid of
> some spyware that they dont have.. Or.. if they have it
> they will be forced to remove both MsgPlus and the
> spyware..
>
> So again: Report the spyware, not the the host.
>
> /vonGrepa

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Old 06-01-2005, 06:31 PM   #3
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Well, ive installed MsgPlus on 5 systems without getting
any spyware.

As long as it is an act of free will i feel that MsgPlus
should not have been reported. But ofcourse, if possible
tell anyone that it was MsgPlus that installed the spyware
if the spyware is found..

/vonGrepa
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Old 07-01-2005, 11:14 AM   #4
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MsgPlus is reported as an 'adware bundler', which it is and the default
action setting, and written action recommendation, is 'ignore'.

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"vonGrepa" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:05c601c4f41f$80620ed0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi again.
>
> I find it strange that MS_AS repoarts MsgPlus. First its
> reported then you say that this application might contain
> spyware.. As u state this is an option during install of
> MsgPlus.
>
> I find it more usefull if u dont report MsgPlus but the
> actuall spyware that could have been installed.. I never
> installed the optional spyware, thus i should not see any
> warnings about it. An un skilled user will be confused and
> some might try to uninstall the MsgPlus just to get rid of
> some spyware that they dont have.. Or.. if they have it
> they will be forced to remove both MsgPlus and the
> spyware..
>
> So again: Report the spyware, not the the host.
>
> /vonGrepa


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