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Old 06-01-2005, 05:12 PM   #1
Jean-Francois Charette
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Hi, i have run a scan on my pc and it detect the software
DameWare, wich is a legal remote control program, as a
SpyWare.

Microsoft will have to correct this because it's like to
say that PC Anywhere is a SpyWare.

Thanks.
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Old 06-01-2005, 05:20 PM   #2
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"Jean-Francois Charette" <jf.charette@braultetmartineau.com> wrote in
message news:0f3e01c4f41b$3b99b540$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi, i have run a scan on my pc and it detect the software
> DameWare, wich is a legal remote control program, as a
> SpyWare.
>
> Microsoft will have to correct this because it's like to
> say that PC Anywhere is a SpyWare.


It also reports RealVNC as possible spyware, but so did other spyware
detection tools I ran, Spybot Search & Destroy and others I think.

I just tell it to ignore it in the future, I'd rather be alerted to remote
control software, in case something I didn't know about had been installed,
especially on the PCs at work.

Andy


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Old 06-01-2005, 06:39 PM   #3
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You say that like its a bad thing.

Sorry. That will be my last personal comment.

Any remote control tool should be considered "spyware."
Spyware isn't necessarily a bad thing. Wearing a corporate
support hat, I don't want users to be running spyware
detection tools and making decisions based upon what they
report. That's not their job, its my job. If there's any
spyware installed, its my spyware.

That's why I want centralized reporting, remote initiation
(yes, use the anti-spyware tool for spyware puproses), no
user involvement and little to no footprint.
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Old 06-01-2005, 07:14 PM   #4
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Thanks RK for your answer. Maybe your right when you
said then any remote control is a SpyWare.

Personnaly i find it weird then a LEGAL product for
taking control of station in an enterprise are detected
as High threat SpyWare.

It's your opninion ans i respect it.

Thanks agains.


>-----Original Message-----
>You say that like its a bad thing.
>
>Sorry. That will be my last personal comment.
>
>Any remote control tool should be considered "spyware."
>Spyware isn't necessarily a bad thing. Wearing a

corporate
>support hat, I don't want users to be running spyware
>detection tools and making decisions based upon what

they
>report. That's not their job, its my job. If there's any
>spyware installed, its my spyware.
>
>That's why I want centralized reporting, remote

initiation
>(yes, use the anti-spyware tool for spyware puproses),

no
>user involvement and little to no footprint.
>.
>

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Old 06-01-2005, 08:53 PM   #5
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Given the question, I think some of you might also be interested in
reviewing the criteria used to flag a piece of software.
http://www.spynet.com/info_spywarecriteria.aspx
(fourth from the bottom under "Security Criteria".

Best,
Jeff


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"JFCharette" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0a7801c4f42c$5a959f70$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks RK for your answer. Maybe your right when you
> said then any remote control is a SpyWare.
>
> Personnaly i find it weird then a LEGAL product for
> taking control of station in an enterprise are detected
> as High threat SpyWare.
>
> It's your opninion ans i respect it.
>
> Thanks agains.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>You say that like its a bad thing.
>>
>>Sorry. That will be my last personal comment.
>>
>>Any remote control tool should be considered "spyware."
>>Spyware isn't necessarily a bad thing. Wearing a

> corporate
>>support hat, I don't want users to be running spyware
>>detection tools and making decisions based upon what

> they
>>report. That's not their job, its my job. If there's any
>>spyware installed, its my spyware.
>>
>>That's why I want centralized reporting, remote

> initiation
>>(yes, use the anti-spyware tool for spyware puproses),

> no
>>user involvement and little to no footprint.
>>.
>>



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Old 07-01-2005, 01:58 PM   #6
Bill Sanderson
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Part of the difficulty here is the use of loaded terms--hard to avoid when
they are part of the name of the current beta product.

Here's a reference to the same information Jeff Williams mentions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/892340 Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware (Beta)
identifies a program as a spyware threat (Listing criteria and Dispute
process)

I have to agree that, given the history of abuse of these things, that any
Remote Administration Tool should be listed. We need to get out of the
mindset that "listing" equates to "this is bad/illegal/malicious." In this
case, listing equates to "might be abused." I think the explanatory text
for VNC versions that I've read explains this quite well.


"JFCharette" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0a7801c4f42c$5a959f70$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> Thanks RK for your answer. Maybe your right when you
> said then any remote control is a SpyWare.
>
> Personnaly i find it weird then a LEGAL product for
> taking control of station in an enterprise are detected
> as High threat SpyWare.
>
> It's your opninion ans i respect it.
>
> Thanks agains.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>You say that like its a bad thing.
>>
>>Sorry. That will be my last personal comment.
>>
>>Any remote control tool should be considered "spyware."
>>Spyware isn't necessarily a bad thing. Wearing a

> corporate
>>support hat, I don't want users to be running spyware
>>detection tools and making decisions based upon what

> they
>>report. That's not their job, its my job. If there's any
>>spyware installed, its my spyware.
>>
>>That's why I want centralized reporting, remote

> initiation
>>(yes, use the anti-spyware tool for spyware puproses),

> no
>>user involvement and little to no footprint.
>>.
>>



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