AntiSpy misses vs Panda AV?

I just installed MS AntiSpy and did a full, deep scan -
it found 21 problems, I deleted 8 and quarantined the
rest. Then I ran the online Panda AV and it found like
80+ spyware issues? IS AntiSpy really missing all this?
Here's the Panda output:

Incident

Adware:Adware/Gator
Adware:Adware/MyWay
Adware:Adware/SAHAgent
Adware:Adware/FunWeb
Adware:Adware/Hotbar
Adware:Adware/Apropos
Spyware:Spyware/Roing
Adware:Adware/ISearch
Adware:Adware/SearchExe
Spyware:Spyware/Media-motor
Adware:Adware/MyDailyHoroscope
Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
Adware:Adware/Coupons
Adware:Adware/MyWebSearch
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Adware:Adware/Apropos
Adware:Adware/Envolo
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Adware:Adware/EliteBar
Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Adware:Adware/Envolo
Adware:Adware/PortalScan
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Possible Virus.
Adware:Adware/PurityScan
Adware:Adware/WUpd
Adware:Adware/PortalScan
Adware:Adware/Apropos
Adware:Adware/PortalScan
Adware:Adware/EliteBar
Adware:Adware/ISearch
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Adware:Adware/Sqwire
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Adware:Adware/EliteBar
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/BTGrab
Adware:Adware/Sqwire
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Adware:Adware/EliteBar
Adware:Adware/PortalScan
Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
Adware:Adware/PortalScan
Adware:Adware/PortalScan
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
Adware:Adware/PortalScan
Adware:Adware/VirtualBouncer
Adware:Adware/MyWay
Adware:Adware/TopRebates
Adware:Adware/TopRebates
Adware:Adware/FunWeb
Adware:Adware/FunWeb
Adware:Adware/WUpd
Adware:Adware/Coupons
Adware:Adware/ISearch
Adware:Adware/EliteBar

Here are a couple of possibilities--I can't tell for sure, because in the
one scan with Panda I did on my own machine the results got lost--I really
don't like the way their scan presents results as a popup.

1) Microsoft antispyware doesn't scan for cookies. So--likely some of these
results are cookies--and your list doesn't enable us to tell that.
2) Other scanners that I've seen so far don't exclude Microsoft
Antispyware's quarantine area from scanning--so stuff in the quarantine may
well be listed.


--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"whyme@bluebottel.com" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:429201c52052$98e21e50$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>I just installed MS AntiSpy and did a full, deep scan -
> it found 21 problems, I deleted 8 and quarantined the
> rest. Then I ran the online Panda AV and it found like
> 80+ spyware issues? IS AntiSpy really missing all this?
> Here's the Panda output:
>
> Incident
>
> Adware:Adware/Gator
> Adware:Adware/MyWay
> Adware:Adware/SAHAgent
> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
> Adware:Adware/Hotbar
> Adware:Adware/Apropos
> Spyware:Spyware/Roing
> Adware:Adware/ISearch
> Adware:Adware/SearchExe
> Spyware:Spyware/Media-motor
> Adware:Adware/MyDailyHoroscope
> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
> Adware:Adware/Coupons
> Adware:Adware/MyWebSearch
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Adware:Adware/Apropos
> Adware:Adware/Envolo
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Adware:Adware/Envolo
> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Possible Virus.
> Adware:Adware/PurityScan
> Adware:Adware/WUpd
> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
> Adware:Adware/Apropos
> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
> Adware:Adware/ISearch
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Adware:Adware/Sqwire
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
> Adware:Adware/Sqwire
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
> Adware:Adware/VirtualBouncer
> Adware:Adware/MyWay
> Adware:Adware/TopRebates
> Adware:Adware/TopRebates
> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
> Adware:Adware/WUpd
> Adware:Adware/Coupons
> Adware:Adware/ISearch
> Adware:Adware/EliteBar

Hi i cannot really comment on why MS Antispy missed all
these things(except its still a beta testing product at
present and is being improved with the help of these
forums) but i would advise you get some protection
products on your pc as you virtually have every piece of
scumware available looking at the Panda log,Hopefully
Panda has sorted them but if you need any help let us
know and id be glad to assist,

You should get Spybot Search & Destroy and use the
immunize feature and update at least every 2 weeks plus
id recommend both Spyware Blaster and Spyware Guard to
prevent similar attacks,All products are free and can be
accessed easily of the net and will save you alot of
hassle in the long run


General Tips:

(If you have only picked a adware/trojan up then use the
system restore to go back to a point when you know your
pc was clean) if not then it needs to be turned off as
the restore files are protected and removal products
cannot delete files from there so trojans/viruses etc..
usually leave files there to prevent complete removal

First: Turn off Windows XP System Restore (Start,Right
click my computer,Properties,then system restore and
disable and apply)


Next: Enable viewing of hidden files and folders and
extensions; Some programs can hide this way by not being
visible in Windows. Start Windows Explorer and click on
your main hard drive, usually c:\. Then select Tools from
the top of Windows Explorer and then Folder Options. Go
to the View tab. Scroll down to the folder icon that says
Hidden files and folders and check show hidden files and
folders. Also, right below it, uncheck the hide file
extensions for known types.

How to boot into Safe Mode
Reboot the system and tap F8, choose Safe Mode.


Deleting Temp Internet Files:
Open a internet browser window, click Tools then Internet
Options.
Click on the Delete Cookies and the Delete Files buttons,
then click OK and close the browser window.


Delete Windows Temporary Files - (start,run then
type %temp% delete all files you can in this folder
The Windows temporary directory (usually located at
C:\windows\temp).


Id recommend using these free products:

Spybot Search & Destroy

http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?
id=2471&file=11&evp=2470f9bfb0cc682334ff8c4459556118

Ad-aware SE

http://www.majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?
id=506&file=11&evp=8dbaff7daca8f4b55bf695220993fc0f

SpywareBlaster

http://majorgeeks.com/downloadget.php?
id=2859&file=11&evp=61b0e8ad41924a03c37615f4682b4cef

CWShredder

http://cwshredder.net/bin/CWShredder.exe


Spyware Guard

http://www.javacoolsoftware.net/dow...pywareguardsetu
p.exe




And For Virus And Trojan Scanning

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/hou.../start_corp.asp

http://security.norton.com/sscv6/default.asp?
langid=ie&venid=sym

http://www.pandasoftware.com/active.../activescan_pri
ncipal.htm

http://www.bitdefender.com/scan/licence.php

http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/



Regards Andy

Bill,
Panda just started scanning for spyware during the online scan.
Two points here: 1. It does identify cookies; 2. It doesn't remove spyware,
just tells you that you have it.
I ran it on a box last night and Panda did rip a trojan out of the MWAS
Quarantine corral.


Ron Chamberlin
MS-MVP

"Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
news:Op5qqVFIFHA.412@cpmsftngsa05.privatenews.microsoft.com...
> Here are a couple of possibilities--I can't tell for sure, because in the
> one scan with Panda I did on my own machine the results got lost--I really
> don't like the way their scan presents results as a popup.
>
> 1) Microsoft antispyware doesn't scan for cookies. So--likely some of
> these results are cookies--and your list doesn't enable us to tell that.
> 2) Other scanners that I've seen so far don't exclude Microsoft
> Antispyware's quarantine area from scanning--so stuff in the quarantine
> may well be listed.
>
>
> --
> FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>
> "whyme@bluebottel.com" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message news:429201c52052$98e21e50$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>I just installed MS AntiSpy and did a full, deep scan -
>> it found 21 problems, I deleted 8 and quarantined the
>> rest. Then I ran the online Panda AV and it found like
>> 80+ spyware issues? IS AntiSpy really missing all this?
>> Here's the Panda output:
>>
>> Incident
>>
>> Adware:Adware/Gator
>> Adware:Adware/MyWay
>> Adware:Adware/SAHAgent
>> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
>> Adware:Adware/Hotbar
>> Adware:Adware/Apropos
>> Spyware:Spyware/Roing
>> Adware:Adware/ISearch
>> Adware:Adware/SearchExe
>> Spyware:Spyware/Media-motor
>> Adware:Adware/MyDailyHoroscope
>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>> Adware:Adware/Coupons
>> Adware:Adware/MyWebSearch
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Adware:Adware/Apropos
>> Adware:Adware/Envolo
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
>> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Adware:Adware/Envolo
>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Possible Virus.
>> Adware:Adware/PurityScan
>> Adware:Adware/WUpd
>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>> Adware:Adware/Apropos
>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>> Adware:Adware/ISearch
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Adware:Adware/Sqwire
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>> Adware:Adware/Sqwire
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>> Adware:Adware/VirtualBouncer
>> Adware:Adware/MyWay
>> Adware:Adware/TopRebates
>> Adware:Adware/TopRebates
>> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
>> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
>> Adware:Adware/WUpd
>> Adware:Adware/Coupons
>> Adware:Adware/ISearch
>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>
>
>

Trend Micro's scanner does spyware (and checks for critical patches) and
DOES remove.
(and I like it better in terms of how it works and displays results, but the
cleanup UI is attrocious (you must choose in a dropdown box for every
cookie!) and it didn't really find anything but cookies on my machine. It
did find one item that it said was real malware, but it doesn't give the
specifics of the item involved, and I read all about the bug and couldn't
find any of the more obvious pieces on my system. I did let it remove it,
though!
--
FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm

"Ron Chamberlin" <ronchamberlin@msnmsn.com> wrote in message
news:O5bg4jGIFHA.2368@cpmsftngsa05.privatenews.microsoft.com...
> Bill,
> Panda just started scanning for spyware during the online scan.
> Two points here: 1. It does identify cookies; 2. It doesn't remove
> spyware, just tells you that you have it.
> I ran it on a box last night and Panda did rip a trojan out of the MWAS
> Quarantine corral.
>
>
> Ron Chamberlin
> MS-MVP
>
> "Bill Sanderson" <Bill_Sanderson@msn.com.plugh.org> wrote in message
> news:Op5qqVFIFHA.412@cpmsftngsa05.privatenews.microsoft.com...
>> Here are a couple of possibilities--I can't tell for sure, because in the
>> one scan with Panda I did on my own machine the results got lost--I
>> really don't like the way their scan presents results as a popup.
>>
>> 1) Microsoft antispyware doesn't scan for cookies. So--likely some of
>> these results are cookies--and your list doesn't enable us to tell that.
>> 2) Other scanners that I've seen so far don't exclude Microsoft
>> Antispyware's quarantine area from scanning--so stuff in the quarantine
>> may well be listed.
>>
>>
>> --
>> FAQ for Microsoft Antispyware:
>> http://www.geocities.com/marfer_mvp/FAQ_MSantispy.htm
>>
>> "whyme@bluebottel.com" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:429201c52052$98e21e50$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>I just installed MS AntiSpy and did a full, deep scan -
>>> it found 21 problems, I deleted 8 and quarantined the
>>> rest. Then I ran the online Panda AV and it found like
>>> 80+ spyware issues? IS AntiSpy really missing all this?
>>> Here's the Panda output:
>>>
>>> Incident
>>>
>>> Adware:Adware/Gator
>>> Adware:Adware/MyWay
>>> Adware:Adware/SAHAgent
>>> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
>>> Adware:Adware/Hotbar
>>> Adware:Adware/Apropos
>>> Spyware:Spyware/Roing
>>> Adware:Adware/ISearch
>>> Adware:Adware/SearchExe
>>> Spyware:Spyware/Media-motor
>>> Adware:Adware/MyDailyHoroscope
>>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>>> Adware:Adware/Coupons
>>> Adware:Adware/MyWebSearch
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Adware:Adware/Apropos
>>> Adware:Adware/Envolo
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>>> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
>>> Adware:Adware/MultiMPP
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Adware:Adware/Envolo
>>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Possible Virus.
>>> Adware:Adware/PurityScan
>>> Adware:Adware/WUpd
>>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>>> Adware:Adware/Apropos
>>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>>> Adware:Adware/ISearch
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Adware:Adware/Sqwire
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/Twain-Tech
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/BTGrab
>>> Adware:Adware/Sqwire
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>>> Spyware:Spyware/BetterInet
>>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Spyware:Spyware/SurfSideKick
>>> Adware:Adware/PortalScan
>>> Adware:Adware/VirtualBouncer
>>> Adware:Adware/MyWay
>>> Adware:Adware/TopRebates
>>> Adware:Adware/TopRebates
>>> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
>>> Adware:Adware/FunWeb
>>> Adware:Adware/WUpd
>>> Adware:Adware/Coupons
>>> Adware:Adware/ISearch
>>> Adware:Adware/EliteBar
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>