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Old 06-01-2005, 02:11 PM   #1
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I have installed and run Beta 1 on my system. Based on other products (Ad
Aware), my own very conservative settings on IE, general safe computing
practices, and no symptoms of spyware, I do not believe that I have any
spyware on my system. The Beta detected 3 instances of spyware. The
first, WinPCap, I had installed, and it correctly said it was a low threat.
The system has a cool "always ignore" setting that I will use for WinPCap.

The second, EZCyberSearch, was detected in a folder c:\documents and
settings\knox\favorites\cool sites. In this folder I have about 30 various
URL's and it shows all to be infected. Apparently it doesn't like the word
"cool" in the path. I changed the name of the directory and now it doesn't
show up. I guess there's no double checking.

The third, Network Essentials, is detected in the folder c:\program
files\pop which contains a Microsoft Access MDB that I myself created. It
seems unlikely that it would contain a Browser hijacker. I don't feel like
renaming my application to test it, but I hope that it is not just looking
for the word "pop". The "learn more about this threat" link does not
currently have any information.

So far I find the user interface and installation to be very clean, easy to
use, and easy to understand.


Knox



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Old 06-01-2005, 08:48 PM   #2
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Knox,

Thank you for the posting. I have filed 2 bugs that you have found
involving the false positives for EZCyberSearch and Network Essentials. The
winpcap issue is known. Thanks again for helping us test.


- steve

Steve Dodson [MSFT]
MCSE, CISSP
PSS Security


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>I have installed and run Beta 1 on my system. Based on other products (Ad
>Aware), my own very conservative settings on IE, general safe computing
>practices, and no symptoms of spyware, I do not believe that I have any
>spyware on my system. The Beta detected 3 instances of spyware. The
>first, WinPCap, I had installed, and it correctly said it was a low

threat.
>The system has a cool "always ignore" setting that I will use for WinPCap.
>
>The second, EZCyberSearch, was detected in a folder c:\documents and
>settings\knox\favorites\cool sites. In this folder I have about 30

various
>URL's and it shows all to be infected. Apparently it doesn't like the

word
>"cool" in the path. I changed the name of the directory and now it

doesn't
>show up. I guess there's no double checking.
>
>The third, Network Essentials, is detected in the folder c:\program
>files\pop which contains a Microsoft Access MDB that I myself created. It
>seems unlikely that it would contain a Browser hijacker. I don't feel

like
>renaming my application to test it, but I hope that it is not just looking
>for the word "pop". The "learn more about this threat" link does not
>currently have any information.
>
>So far I find the user interface and installation to be very clean, easy

to
>use, and easy to understand.
>
>
>Knox
>
>
>
>


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Old 07-01-2005, 02:36 AM   #3
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Thank you. WinpCap I didn't consider a false positive.


Knox

""Steve Dodson [MSFT]"" <stevedod@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Knox,
>
> Thank you for the posting. I have filed 2 bugs that you have found
> involving the false positives for EZCyberSearch and Network Essentials.
> The
> winpcap issue is known. Thanks again for helping us test.
>
>
> - steve
>
> Steve Dodson [MSFT]
> MCSE, CISSP
> PSS Security
>
>
> -
>
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> message are best directed to the newsgroup/thread from which they
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>>Subject: False Positives
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>>I have installed and run Beta 1 on my system. Based on other products (Ad
>>Aware), my own very conservative settings on IE, general safe computing
>>practices, and no symptoms of spyware, I do not believe that I have any
>>spyware on my system. The Beta detected 3 instances of spyware. The
>>first, WinPCap, I had installed, and it correctly said it was a low

> threat.
>>The system has a cool "always ignore" setting that I will use for WinPCap.
>>
>>The second, EZCyberSearch, was detected in a folder c:\documents and
>>settings\knox\favorites\cool sites. In this folder I have about 30

> various
>>URL's and it shows all to be infected. Apparently it doesn't like the

> word
>>"cool" in the path. I changed the name of the directory and now it

> doesn't
>>show up. I guess there's no double checking.
>>
>>The third, Network Essentials, is detected in the folder c:\program
>>files\pop which contains a Microsoft Access MDB that I myself created. It
>>seems unlikely that it would contain a Browser hijacker. I don't feel

> like
>>renaming my application to test it, but I hope that it is not just looking
>>for the word "pop". The "learn more about this threat" link does not
>>currently have any information.
>>
>>So far I find the user interface and installation to be very clean, easy

> to
>>use, and easy to understand.
>>
>>
>>Knox
>>
>>
>>
>>

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