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Old 12-02-2004, 10:21 PM   #1
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I can not start Windows XP with a user that is not in the administrators group. I have tired both the user and power user group. This started after I tried to change the security settings in the registry for a program that has to update a registry key when starting up. I do not have a back up. I create a user, joined them to the user group, went in to the registry, found the three entries for the program and added the user group with full control to those keys. This did not work so I went back to the three keys and removed the user group. Now when I try to log on using that user I get the start up sound but nothing on the desktop In task manager the only service I can stop is the taskmgr for the user I am trying to log on. I also can not start a tast through task manager like say Explorer. When using a user that is in the admin group everything works fine. Any ideas? Thanks in advance

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Old 12-02-2004, 10:49 PM   #2
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You may need to also remove the user group that you added, or the user's membership in that group. If that "group" no longer has permissions to access those registry keys, then the users in that group won't be able to either. Generally the more restrictive permissions setting, take precedence.

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> I can not start Windows XP with a user that is not in the administrators group. I have tired both the user and power user group. This started after I tried to change the security settings in the registry for a program that has to update a registry key when starting up. I do not have a back up. I create a user, joined them to the user group, went in to the registry, found the three entries for the program and added the user group with full control to those keys. This did not work so I went back to the three keys and removed the user group. Now when I try to log on using that user I get the start up sound but nothing on the desktop In task manager the only service I can stop is the taskmgr for the user I am trying to log on. I also can not start a tast through task manager like say Explorer. When using a user that is in the admin group everything works fine. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:06 PM   #3
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I did delete the users that I created, one in the group "Users" and on in the group "Power Users". Then created a new user as a member of the "Power Users" group. I did not create a group. The group "Users" did not seem to have permission on the keys in the first place. I am thinking that there might be another key somewhere that the group "Users" needs to have permission but has been removed. I did not add or remove the "Power Users" group so I do not understand why a member of this group would not be able to log on

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Old 12-02-2004, 11:29 PM   #4
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You'll have to provide the specific keys that you modified the permissions on, so the defaults can be checked (assuming they're not application specific).

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> I did delete the users that I created, one in the group "Users" and on in the group "Power Users". Then created a new user as a member of the "Power Users" group. I did not create a group. The group "Users" did not seem to have permission on the keys in the first place. I am thinking that there might be another key somewhere that the group "Users" needs to have permission but has been removed. I did not add or remove the "Power Users" group so I do not understand why a member of this group would not be able to log on.
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:56 PM   #5
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The keys were specific to the application. But what I am afraid happened is in removing the permissions from those keys some how another key (or keys) lost the default permission also. Do you know of a utility that could check the registry and for the standard XP Pro install w\SP1a reset the security setting to the default based on group membership?

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Old 13-02-2004, 12:45 AM   #6
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Not that I'm aware of for the Registry.

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> The keys were specific to the application. But what I am afraid happened is in removing the permissions from those keys some how another key (or keys) lost the default permission also. Do you know of a utility that could check the registry and for the standard XP Pro install w\SP1a reset the security setting to the default based on group membership?
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