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Old 26-06-2004, 08:16 AM   #1
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I have posted MANY questions concerning problems I have
been having that have taken much of my time trying to
solve. I have posted here hoping to get SERIOUS answers
and DETAILED SOLUTIONS to help me with my problems, but I
have noticed many postings (including some of mine) NEVER
get answered, and even when they do, some M/F will list
a "workaround" (usually a one liner)that never addresses
the root problem or gives a list of several probable
causes - usually one probable cause in about three words
and that is it. Most replys assume everybody is a G/D
computer guru and rarely gives enough detail for the
average user to even try what has been told to do. If we
all knew how to "ping this", "check this", "edit
that" "etc, etc" we would not be here in the first place.
Some people give you only links to their business web
sites so to get you there to buy something. I have seen
some that were detailed enough to at least take up two to
three minutes of time to test, but most take less than 15
seconds. Do I have anybody out there who feels the same?
Come on guys and gals, post your repy and maybe we can get
answers that have a little more depth to them!!! WE MAY
NOT BE COMPUTER WIZARDS BUT WE'RE NOT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 27-06-2004, 07:30 PM   #2
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I agree with you 100%. I have posted several problems and
never received a response. And I have read many (most)
that don't get to the cause of the problem or the proper
way to fix it, just as you said. I have spent too much
time looking on other websites to get answers which should
be supplied by Micro$oft. Who are these so-called MVP's
anyway? And what are they being paid for? Maybe they are
too busy coming up with fixes for their product.
>-----Original Message-----
>I have posted MANY questions concerning problems I have
>been having that have taken much of my time trying to
>solve. I have posted here hoping to get SERIOUS answers
>and DETAILED SOLUTIONS to help me with my problems, but I
>have noticed many postings (including some of mine) NEVER
>get answered, and even when they do, some M/F will list
>a "workaround" (usually a one liner)that never addresses
>the root problem or gives a list of several probable
>causes - usually one probable cause in about three words
>and that is it. Most replys assume everybody is a G/D
>computer guru and rarely gives enough detail for the
>average user to even try what has been told to do. If we
>all knew how to "ping this", "check this", "edit
>that" "etc, etc" we would not be here in the first place.
>Some people give you only links to their business web
>sites so to get you there to buy something. I have seen
>some that were detailed enough to at least take up two to
>three minutes of time to test, but most take less than 15
>seconds. Do I have anybody out there who feels the same?
>Come on guys and gals, post your repy and maybe we can

get
>answers that have a little more depth to them!!! WE MAY
>NOT BE COMPUTER WIZARDS BUT WE'RE NOT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
>EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!
>.
>

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Old 27-06-2004, 10:52 PM   #3
Oli Restorick [MVP]
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"Rita" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>Who are these so-called MVP's anyway?

http://www.microsoft.com/mvp/

>And what are they being paid for?

MVPs do not work for Microsoft and we are not paid by Microsoft.

Tell me, what are *you* doing to help other computer users? If it's
nothing, do you have the right to demand help from others? By all means
request help, but do not demand it.

Oli


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Old 28-06-2004, 07:11 AM   #4
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I'm not paid to be an MVP! I answer posts when I have time. If you wish to
assist, feel free!

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

--
Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
www.coribright.com

Rita" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:21ff201c45c6c$74139400$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>I agree with you 100%. I have posted several problems and
> never received a response. And I have read many (most)
> that don't get to the cause of the problem or the proper
> way to fix it, just as you said. I have spent too much
> time looking on other websites to get answers which should
> be supplied by Micro$oft. Who are these so-called MVP's
> anyway? And what are they being paid for? Maybe they are
> too busy coming up with fixes for their product.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have posted MANY questions concerning problems I have
>>been having that have taken much of my time trying to
>>solve. I have posted here hoping to get SERIOUS answers
>>and DETAILED SOLUTIONS to help me with my problems, but I
>>have noticed many postings (including some of mine) NEVER
>>get answered, and even when they do, some M/F will list
>>a "workaround" (usually a one liner)that never addresses
>>the root problem or gives a list of several probable
>>causes - usually one probable cause in about three words
>>and that is it. Most replys assume everybody is a G/D
>>computer guru and rarely gives enough detail for the
>>average user to even try what has been told to do. If we
>>all knew how to "ping this", "check this", "edit
>>that" "etc, etc" we would not be here in the first place.
>>Some people give you only links to their business web
>>sites so to get you there to buy something. I have seen
>>some that were detailed enough to at least take up two to
>>three minutes of time to test, but most take less than 15
>>seconds. Do I have anybody out there who feels the same?
>>Come on guys and gals, post your repy and maybe we can

> get
>>answers that have a little more depth to them!!! WE MAY
>>NOT BE COMPUTER WIZARDS BUT WE'RE NOT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS
>>EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!
>>.
>>



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Old 03-07-2004, 11:42 PM   #5
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We who post questions or problems are not experts, as you
MVPs claim to be. I do help others whenever possible. If I
expressed my true feelings about it, my post would be
deleted by anti-freedom of speech censors.
>-----Original Message-----
>
>"Rita" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
>news:21ff201c45c6c$74139400$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>>Who are these so-called MVP's anyway?

>http://www.microsoft.com/mvp/
>
>>And what are they being paid for?

>MVPs do not work for Microsoft and we are not paid by

Microsoft.
>
>Tell me, what are *you* doing to help other computer

users? If it's
>nothing, do you have the right to demand help from

others? By all means
>request help, but do not demand it.
>
>Oli
>
>
>.
>

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Old 05-07-2004, 12:47 AM   #6
Oli Restorick [MVP]
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I'm sorry our free support falls short of your expectations. Perhaps I
should quit my job so that I can spend more time answering questions on
newsgroups.

If you have an issue with Microsoft's support for its products, now that's a
different issue. Complain to Microsoft if you think they're falling short.

http://support.microsoft.com/defaul...;en-gb;feedback

If you're not getting answers to question you post in newsgroups, you might
like to try reading the following to improve the chances that someone will
be willing to help you.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Remember, these newsgroups are provided so that users of Microsoft's
products can interact with each other to learn about the technology. Nobody
gets paid to provide help or is under any obligation to answer your
questions.

Oli



"Rita" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> We who post questions or problems are not experts, as you
> MVPs claim to be. I do help others whenever possible. If I
> expressed my true feelings about it, my post would be
> deleted by anti-freedom of speech censors.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>
>>"Rita" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

> message
>>news:21ff201c45c6c$74139400$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>>>Who are these so-called MVP's anyway?

>>http://www.microsoft.com/mvp/
>>
>>>And what are they being paid for?

>>MVPs do not work for Microsoft and we are not paid by

> Microsoft.
>>
>>Tell me, what are *you* doing to help other computer

> users? If it's
>>nothing, do you have the right to demand help from

> others? By all means
>>request help, but do not demand it.
>>
>>Oli
>>
>>
>>.
>>



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