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Old 11-10-2003, 08:29 AM   #1
Dmitriy Kopnichev
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Hello
How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the administrator of a
Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or how to
hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or how to
make the contents inaccessible?


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Old 11-10-2003, 01:30 PM   #2
Roger Abell
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Ultimately this is not something that can be done.
An admin can find a way to access it no matter how
you have tried to make it inaccessible.
You could consider using EFS encryption in XP to
make selected content unavailable to any account
except the encrypting account, and with a small
amount more effort you could do the same in W2k.

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Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
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> Hello
> How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the administrator of

a
> Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or how

to
> hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or how to
> make the contents inaccessible?
>
>



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Old 11-10-2003, 02:40 PM   #3
Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)
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Put the drive in a "lockable" drive carrier. When done using the system,
lock the drive and pocket the key. If he is determined, he will still be
able to use your drive, unless you removed it and took it with you.

"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hello
> How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the administrator of

a
> Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or how

to
> hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or how to
> make the contents inaccessible?
>
>



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Old 11-10-2003, 06:40 PM   #4
Dmitriy Kopnichev
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Thanks for your reply.
I encrypted all folders in the root of the Windows XP HD with EFS, but the
Windows 2000 Administrator can open them.
"Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in message
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> Ultimately this is not something that can be done.
> An admin can find a way to access it no matter how
> you have tried to make it inaccessible.
> You could consider using EFS encryption in XP to
> make selected content unavailable to any account
> except the encrypting account, and with a small
> amount more effort you could do the same in W2k.
>
> --
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hello
> > How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the administrator

of
> a
> > Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or how

> to
> > hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or how to
> > make the contents inaccessible?
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 11-10-2003, 06:44 PM   #5
Dmitriy Kopnichev
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If I remove the Windows XP HD and took it with me, an error about the NTLDR
file not being available will appear when the Windows 2000 Administrator
will try to boot Windows 2000.
"Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)" <rurbanREMOVETHIS@frontiernet.net> wrote in
message news:eqlMfT$jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Put the drive in a "lockable" drive carrier. When done using the system,
> lock the drive and pocket the key. If he is determined, he will still be
> able to use your drive, unless you removed it and took it with you.
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hello
> > How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the administrator

of
> a
> > Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or how

> to
> > hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or how to
> > make the contents inaccessible?
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 11-10-2003, 10:49 PM   #6
Mike Hall
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This is what comes of trying to be sneaky.. lol

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"Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
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> If I remove the Windows XP HD and took it with me, an error about the

NTLDR
> file not being available will appear when the Windows 2000 Administrator
> will try to boot Windows 2000.
> "Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)" <rurbanREMOVETHIS@frontiernet.net> wrote in
> message news:eqlMfT$jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Put the drive in a "lockable" drive carrier. When done using the system,
> > lock the drive and pocket the key. If he is determined, he will still be
> > able to use your drive, unless you removed it and took it with you.
> >
> > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Hello
> > > How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the administrator

> of
> > a
> > > Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or

how
> > to
> > > hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or how

to
> > > make the contents inaccessible?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



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Old 11-10-2003, 11:23 PM   #7
Dmitriy Kopnichev
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If I lock the drive other won't be able to boot windows 2000 because the
ntldr not being available error. How to boot the windows 2000 without the
Windows XP drive? I want to disable the Windows XP drive in BIOS
temporarily.
"Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)" <rurbanREMOVETHIS@frontiernet.net> wrote in
message news:eqlMfT$jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Put the drive in a "lockable" drive carrier. When done using the system,
> lock the drive and pocket the key. If he is determined, he will still be
> able to use your drive, unless you removed it and took it with you.
>
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hello
> > How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the administrator

of
> a
> > Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or how

> to
> > hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or how to
> > make the contents inaccessible?
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 12-10-2003, 01:51 AM   #8
Kent W. England [MVP]
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Install BootItNG and give it an admin password, put an admin password on
the BIOS, and then use BING to remove the XP partition from the master
boot record when booting 2K. Disable the ability of the BIOS to allow
alternate boot devices without entering BIOS and then set the BIOS to
boot from hard disk first. (This last step depends on the vendor. Dell
BIOS allows you to remove F12 option from BIOS boot.)

I think that would work pretty well. For a couple of days, at least.

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Kent W. England, Microsoft MVP for Windows



"Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in
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> Ultimately this is not something that can be done.
> An admin can find a way to access it no matter how
> you have tried to make it inaccessible.
> You could consider using EFS encryption in XP to
> make selected content unavailable to any account
> except the encrypting account, and with a small
> amount more effort you could do the same in W2k.
>
> --
> Roger Abell
> Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Hello
> > How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the

administrator of
> a
> > Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or

how
> to
> > hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or

how to
> > make the contents inaccessible?
> >
> >

>
>


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Old 12-10-2003, 05:46 AM   #9
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Interesting post Kent. This is industrious to the point
of being devious <g>. I just would not want to switch
boots too frequently :-). I will opt for an external Scsi
drive I can lock away.

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"Kent W. England [MVP]" <kwe@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eZrx3KFkDHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Install BootItNG and give it an admin password, put an admin password on
> the BIOS, and then use BING to remove the XP partition from the master
> boot record when booting 2K. Disable the ability of the BIOS to allow
> alternate boot devices without entering BIOS and then set the BIOS to
> boot from hard disk first. (This last step depends on the vendor. Dell
> BIOS allows you to remove F12 option from BIOS boot.)
>
> I think that would work pretty well. For a couple of days, at least.
>
> --
> Kent W. England, Microsoft MVP for Windows
>
>
>
> "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in
> message news:%23S3Ibq%23jDHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> > Ultimately this is not something that can be done.
> > An admin can find a way to access it no matter how
> > you have tried to make it inaccessible.
> > You could consider using EFS encryption in XP to
> > make selected content unavailable to any account
> > except the encrypting account, and with a small
> > amount more effort you could do the same in W2k.
> >
> > --
> > Roger Abell
> > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Hello
> > > How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the

> administrator of
> > a
> > > Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or

> how
> > to
> > > hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or

> how to
> > > make the contents inaccessible?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>



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Old 12-10-2003, 12:23 PM   #10
Dmitriy Kopnichev
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Hello
Thanks for your reply.
I'm going to disable the Windows XP HD in BIOS temporarily. Will BING
prevent the error about the NTLDR file not being available when booting
Windows 2K with the Windows XP HD disabled? Will I be able to boot Windows
XP normally after enabling the Windows XP HD in BIOS?
"Kent W. England [MVP]" <kwe@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eZrx3KFkDHA.424@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Install BootItNG and give it an admin password, put an admin password on
> the BIOS, and then use BING to remove the XP partition from the master
> boot record when booting 2K. Disable the ability of the BIOS to allow
> alternate boot devices without entering BIOS and then set the BIOS to
> boot from hard disk first. (This last step depends on the vendor. Dell
> BIOS allows you to remove F12 option from BIOS boot.)
>
> I think that would work pretty well. For a couple of days, at least.
>
> --
> Kent W. England, Microsoft MVP for Windows
>
>
>
> "Roger Abell" <mvpNOSpam@asu.edu> wrote in
> message news:%23S3Ibq%23jDHA.1072@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>
> > Ultimately this is not something that can be done.
> > An admin can find a way to access it no matter how
> > you have tried to make it inaccessible.
> > You could consider using EFS encryption in XP to
> > make selected content unavailable to any account
> > except the encrypting account, and with a small
> > amount more effort you could do the same in W2k.
> >
> > --
> > Roger Abell
> > Microsoft MVP (Windows Server System: Security)
> > MCSE (W2k3,W2k,Nt4) MCDBA
> > "Dmitriy Kopnichev" <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote in message
> > news:u4OArE8jDHA.976@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Hello
> > > How to hide an HD with installed Windows XP Pro from the

> administrator of
> > a
> > > Windows 2000 Pro installed on another HD in a double boot system? Or

> how
> > to
> > > hide the contents of the Windows XP HD from the administrator? Or

> how to
> > > make the contents inaccessible?
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>



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