a handhel device which supports Framework compact edition

Hi All,

I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products and
stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm having the
following questions:

1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to read the
skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c# developer
but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would appreciate if
somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick start.

Thanks for your help

1) Well, almost any Windows CE 4.x-based device, plus Pocket PC 2002 and
2003 (Windows Mobile 2003). If you mean, "support it in ROM", that's a
different question. You can install it on most recently-produced devices,
however.

2) I'd look at the size, shape, and capabilities of the device, before going
at it this way. If you want a built-in laser scanner, you might look at
Symbol, Intermec, etc. .NET CF should work with any of those. If you want
to buy a Pocket PC off-the-shelf at the local Best Buy and use that, then
you'll need a laser scanner card of some sort.

3) Yes and no. The basic concepts are not hard, no. The details can be a
problem, in some cases, hence the existence of this newsgroup. You should
be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Pro or better, install the Smart
Device support and use the emulator to investigate how you would do this.
You can't simulate the scanner very well, but the basic procedure for
building apps should be the same with a real device.

Paul T.

"ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OYpyoQwCFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi All,
>
> I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products and
> stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm having
> the
> following questions:
>
> 1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
> 2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to read the
> skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
> 3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c#
> developer
> but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would appreciate if
> somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick start.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
>

Paul thanks for your quick response.

1) Basically I don't think I need it to be supported in ROM.Say I have
bougth a "Windows CE 4.x-based device".First step is to install
>netFramework CE on it right?

2) Dose any of these mentioned devices(Symbol, Intermec, etc) have an
object model for working with its scanner device using .Net ?

3) I'm having VS 2003 installed on my box which I use it for ordinary
developement .Dose it suffice for having the simulator beside it? Where Can
I get the simulator from?

Thanks again
ALI


"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
wrote in message news:%232FGcZwCFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> 1) Well, almost any Windows CE 4.x-based device, plus Pocket PC 2002 and
> 2003 (Windows Mobile 2003). If you mean, "support it in ROM", that's a
> different question. You can install it on most recently-produced devices,
> however.
>
> 2) I'd look at the size, shape, and capabilities of the device, before
going
> at it this way. If you want a built-in laser scanner, you might look at
> Symbol, Intermec, etc. .NET CF should work with any of those. If you
want
> to buy a Pocket PC off-the-shelf at the local Best Buy and use that, then
> you'll need a laser scanner card of some sort.
>
> 3) Yes and no. The basic concepts are not hard, no. The details can be a
> problem, in some cases, hence the existence of this newsgroup. You should
> be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Pro or better, install the Smart
> Device support and use the emulator to investigate how you would do this.
> You can't simulate the scanner very well, but the basic procedure for
> building apps should be the same with a real device.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OYpyoQwCFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products and
> > stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm having
> > the
> > following questions:
> >
> > 1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
> > 2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to read
the
> > skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
> > 3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c#
> > developer
> > but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would appreciate if
> > somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick start.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> >
>
>

I think I found the emulator,it shows up when you try to run the smart
application.pretty cool.
"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
wrote in message news:%232FGcZwCFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> 1) Well, almost any Windows CE 4.x-based device, plus Pocket PC 2002 and
> 2003 (Windows Mobile 2003). If you mean, "support it in ROM", that's a
> different question. You can install it on most recently-produced devices,
> however.
>
> 2) I'd look at the size, shape, and capabilities of the device, before
going
> at it this way. If you want a built-in laser scanner, you might look at
> Symbol, Intermec, etc. .NET CF should work with any of those. If you
want
> to buy a Pocket PC off-the-shelf at the local Best Buy and use that, then
> you'll need a laser scanner card of some sort.
>
> 3) Yes and no. The basic concepts are not hard, no. The details can be a
> problem, in some cases, hence the existence of this newsgroup. You should
> be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Pro or better, install the Smart
> Device support and use the emulator to investigate how you would do this.
> You can't simulate the scanner very well, but the basic procedure for
> building apps should be the same with a real device.
>
> Paul T.
>
> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:OYpyoQwCFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products and
> > stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm having
> > the
> > following questions:
> >
> > 1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
> > 2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to read
the
> > skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
> > 3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c#
> > developer
> > but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would appreciate if
> > somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick start.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> >
>
>

1) Sure, once you pick a device.

2) Symbol does. I don't have any experience with it or with Intermec, but
there have been threads on the topic in this newsgroup previously, so do a
Google search of the archives.

3) If you have VS.NET 2003 installed *and you have the Smart Device
development option* installed, the emulator comes with it. The emulator is
not something distributed separately, at least for the Pocket PC and Windows
CE.NET 4.1 cases; it's in the VS.NET distribution. Make sure you have
Pro...

Paul T.

"ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:ubgWkewCFHA.2756@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Paul thanks for your quick response.
>
> 1) Basically I don't think I need it to be supported in ROM.Say I have
> bougth a "Windows CE 4.x-based device".First step is to install
>>netFramework CE on it right?
>
> 2) Dose any of these mentioned devices(Symbol, Intermec, etc) have an
> object model for working with its scanner device using .Net ?
>
> 3) I'm having VS 2003 installed on my box which I use it for ordinary
> developement .Dose it suffice for having the simulator beside it? Where
> Can
> I get the simulator from?
>
> Thanks again
> ALI
>
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
> wrote in message news:%232FGcZwCFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> 1) Well, almost any Windows CE 4.x-based device, plus Pocket PC 2002 and
>> 2003 (Windows Mobile 2003). If you mean, "support it in ROM", that's a
>> different question. You can install it on most recently-produced
>> devices,
>> however.
>>
>> 2) I'd look at the size, shape, and capabilities of the device, before
> going
>> at it this way. If you want a built-in laser scanner, you might look at
>> Symbol, Intermec, etc. .NET CF should work with any of those. If you
> want
>> to buy a Pocket PC off-the-shelf at the local Best Buy and use that, then
>> you'll need a laser scanner card of some sort.
>>
>> 3) Yes and no. The basic concepts are not hard, no. The details can be
>> a
>> problem, in some cases, hence the existence of this newsgroup. You
>> should
>> be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Pro or better, install the Smart
>> Device support and use the emulator to investigate how you would do this.
>> You can't simulate the scanner very well, but the basic procedure for
>> building apps should be the same with a real device.
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:OYpyoQwCFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products and
>> > stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm
>> > having
>> > the
>> > following questions:
>> >
>> > 1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
>> > 2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to read
> the
>> > skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
>> > 3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c#
>> > developer
>> > but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would appreciate
>> > if
>> > somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick start.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your help
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

Thanks again Paul,

For my senario (considering that I am not very familiar with Compact
framework),which of those devices you think suits my needs?
I was surfing intermec website and I found the .Net SDK then.Which device do
you use for your developement?

Cheers,
"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
wrote in message news:%233KdbowCFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> 1) Sure, once you pick a device.
>
> 2) Symbol does. I don't have any experience with it or with Intermec, but
> there have been threads on the topic in this newsgroup previously, so do a
> Google search of the archives.
>
> 3) If you have VS.NET 2003 installed *and you have the Smart Device
> development option* installed, the emulator comes with it. The emulator
is
> not something distributed separately, at least for the Pocket PC and
Windows
> CE.NET 4.1 cases; it's in the VS.NET distribution. Make sure you have
> Pro...
>
> Paul T.
>
> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ubgWkewCFHA.2756@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Paul thanks for your quick response.
> >
> > 1) Basically I don't think I need it to be supported in ROM.Say I have
> > bougth a "Windows CE 4.x-based device".First step is to install
> >>netFramework CE on it right?
> >
> > 2) Dose any of these mentioned devices(Symbol, Intermec, etc) have an
> > object model for working with its scanner device using .Net ?
> >
> > 3) I'm having VS 2003 installed on my box which I use it for ordinary
> > developement .Dose it suffice for having the simulator beside it? Where
> > Can
> > I get the simulator from?
> >
> > Thanks again
> > ALI
> >
> >
> > "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
> > wrote in message news:%232FGcZwCFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> 1) Well, almost any Windows CE 4.x-based device, plus Pocket PC 2002
and
> >> 2003 (Windows Mobile 2003). If you mean, "support it in ROM", that's a
> >> different question. You can install it on most recently-produced
> >> devices,
> >> however.
> >>
> >> 2) I'd look at the size, shape, and capabilities of the device, before
> > going
> >> at it this way. If you want a built-in laser scanner, you might look
at
> >> Symbol, Intermec, etc. .NET CF should work with any of those. If you
> > want
> >> to buy a Pocket PC off-the-shelf at the local Best Buy and use that,
then
> >> you'll need a laser scanner card of some sort.
> >>
> >> 3) Yes and no. The basic concepts are not hard, no. The details can
be
> >> a
> >> problem, in some cases, hence the existence of this newsgroup. You
> >> should
> >> be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Pro or better, install the Smart
> >> Device support and use the emulator to investigate how you would do
this.
> >> You can't simulate the scanner very well, but the basic procedure for
> >> building apps should be the same with a real device.
> >>
> >> Paul T.
> >>
> >> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:OYpyoQwCFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > Hi All,
> >> >
> >> > I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products
and
> >> > stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm
> >> > having
> >> > the
> >> > following questions:
> >> >
> >> > 1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
> >> > 2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to read
> > the
> >> > skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
> >> > 3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c#
> >> > developer
> >> > but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would appreciate
> >> > if
> >> > somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick
start.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for your help
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

2) For Intermec devices, there is a .NET SDK that provides assemblies for
many device features, including barcode scanning. You can find this and
other developer tools for Intermec devices here:

http://www.intermec.com/idl

Hope that helps,
Darren


"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
wrote in message news:%233KdbowCFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> 1) Sure, once you pick a device.
>
> 2) Symbol does. I don't have any experience with it or with Intermec, but
> there have been threads on the topic in this newsgroup previously, so do a
> Google search of the archives.
>
> 3) If you have VS.NET 2003 installed *and you have the Smart Device
> development option* installed, the emulator comes with it. The emulator
> is not something distributed separately, at least for the Pocket PC and
> Windows CE.NET 4.1 cases; it's in the VS.NET distribution. Make sure you
> have Pro...
>
> Paul T.
>
> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ubgWkewCFHA.2756@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> Paul thanks for your quick response.
>>
>> 1) Basically I don't think I need it to be supported in ROM.Say I have
>> bougth a "Windows CE 4.x-based device".First step is to install
>>>netFramework CE on it right?
>>
>> 2) Dose any of these mentioned devices(Symbol, Intermec, etc) have an
>> object model for working with its scanner device using .Net ?
>>
>> 3) I'm having VS 2003 installed on my box which I use it for ordinary
>> developement .Dose it suffice for having the simulator beside it? Where
>> Can
>> I get the simulator from?
>>
>> Thanks again
>> ALI
>>
>>
>> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
>> wrote in message news:%232FGcZwCFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>> 1) Well, almost any Windows CE 4.x-based device, plus Pocket PC 2002 and
>>> 2003 (Windows Mobile 2003). If you mean, "support it in ROM", that's a
>>> different question. You can install it on most recently-produced
>>> devices,
>>> however.
>>>
>>> 2) I'd look at the size, shape, and capabilities of the device, before
>> going
>>> at it this way. If you want a built-in laser scanner, you might look at
>>> Symbol, Intermec, etc. .NET CF should work with any of those. If you
>> want
>>> to buy a Pocket PC off-the-shelf at the local Best Buy and use that,
>>> then
>>> you'll need a laser scanner card of some sort.
>>>
>>> 3) Yes and no. The basic concepts are not hard, no. The details can be
>>> a
>>> problem, in some cases, hence the existence of this newsgroup. You
>>> should
>>> be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Pro or better, install the Smart
>>> Device support and use the emulator to investigate how you would do
>>> this.
>>> You can't simulate the scanner very well, but the basic procedure for
>>> building apps should be the same with a real device.
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>>>
>>> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OYpyoQwCFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> > Hi All,
>>> >
>>> > I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products and
>>> > stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm
>>> > having
>>> > the
>>> > following questions:
>>> >
>>> > 1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
>>> > 2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to read
>> the
>>> > skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
>>> > 3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c#
>>> > developer
>>> > but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would appreciate
>>> > if
>>> > somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick start.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for your help
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

We are a hardware vendor, so we generally use our own!

Paul T.

"ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:uZV7zZxCFHA.1084@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks again Paul,
>
> For my senario (considering that I am not very familiar with Compact
> framework),which of those devices you think suits my needs?
> I was surfing intermec website and I found the .Net SDK then.Which device
> do
> you use for your developement?
>
> Cheers,
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT com>
> wrote in message news:%233KdbowCFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> 1) Sure, once you pick a device.
>>
>> 2) Symbol does. I don't have any experience with it or with Intermec,
>> but
>> there have been threads on the topic in this newsgroup previously, so do
>> a
>> Google search of the archives.
>>
>> 3) If you have VS.NET 2003 installed *and you have the Smart Device
>> development option* installed, the emulator comes with it. The emulator
> is
>> not something distributed separately, at least for the Pocket PC and
> Windows
>> CE.NET 4.1 cases; it's in the VS.NET distribution. Make sure you have
>> Pro...
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:ubgWkewCFHA.2756@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > Paul thanks for your quick response.
>> >
>> > 1) Basically I don't think I need it to be supported in ROM.Say I have
>> > bougth a "Windows CE 4.x-based device".First step is to install
>> >>netFramework CE on it right?
>> >
>> > 2) Dose any of these mentioned devices(Symbol, Intermec, etc) have an
>> > object model for working with its scanner device using .Net ?
>> >
>> > 3) I'm having VS 2003 installed on my box which I use it for ordinary
>> > developement .Dose it suffice for having the simulator beside it? Where
>> > Can
>> > I get the simulator from?
>> >
>> > Thanks again
>> > ALI
>> >
>> >
>> > "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" <ptobey no spam AT no instrument no spam DOT
>> > com>
>> > wrote in message news:%232FGcZwCFHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> >> 1) Well, almost any Windows CE 4.x-based device, plus Pocket PC 2002
> and
>> >> 2003 (Windows Mobile 2003). If you mean, "support it in ROM", that's
>> >> a
>> >> different question. You can install it on most recently-produced
>> >> devices,
>> >> however.
>> >>
>> >> 2) I'd look at the size, shape, and capabilities of the device, before
>> > going
>> >> at it this way. If you want a built-in laser scanner, you might look
> at
>> >> Symbol, Intermec, etc. .NET CF should work with any of those. If you
>> > want
>> >> to buy a Pocket PC off-the-shelf at the local Best Buy and use that,
> then
>> >> you'll need a laser scanner card of some sort.
>> >>
>> >> 3) Yes and no. The basic concepts are not hard, no. The details can
> be
>> >> a
>> >> problem, in some cases, hence the existence of this newsgroup. You
>> >> should
>> >> be able to get Visual Studio .NET 2003 Pro or better, install the
>> >> Smart
>> >> Device support and use the emulator to investigate how you would do
> this.
>> >> You can't simulate the scanner very well, but the basic procedure for
>> >> building apps should be the same with a real device.
>> >>
>> >> Paul T.
>> >>
>> >> "ALI-R" <newbie@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:OYpyoQwCFHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Hi All,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm going to write an application which reads skus on the products
> and
>> >> > stores it in an xml file using .Net Framework compact edition,I'm
>> >> > having
>> >> > the
>> >> > following questions:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1) Which Devices currently support .NetFramework compact edition?
>> >> > 2) I think I need to connect a kind of scanner to that device to
>> >> > read
>> > the
>> >> > skus,Is it something that I can find embedded in the device?
>> >> > 3) IS it really difficult to implement such a senario? I'm a c c#
>> >> > developer
>> >> > but I've never written any programms for handhelds,I would
>> >> > appreciate
>> >> > if
>> >> > somebody could point me to a direction which I can have a quick
> start.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for your help
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>