White Space in HTML

When I saw so many recommendations to use tables, I created tables and
started moving all my text and images into them. During learning process I
realized I should have only *one* table set up with rows & columns as needed.
I did that, moving text and images as appropriate, then removed the extra
tables.

Now I notice (example:
http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm) that there are
huge areas of white space in the html. Is it safe to remove all that? Other
pages don't have that much white space between the sections of code.

Thanks for advice.
--
Sue

URL not working

http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm)

Sorry. I must not have something set up right, and should have copied url
from the actual page. Here's the correct one
http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/cornlodge.htm

Thanks for catching error and telling me.
Sue

"uker" wrote:

> URL not working
>
> http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm)
>
>
>

Sue,

I am assuming you are refering to this page:
http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/cornlodge.htm

Yes, you can remove the whitespace without any problem. FP 03 has the
option to optimize html when publishing to the destination server, but it
appears you are using FP 2000, so I believe you'll have to edit this in html
view (Can't remember if 00 has optimize option).

JDR
*********************

"SueF" wrote:

> When I saw so many recommendations to use tables, I created tables and
> started moving all my text and images into them. During learning process I
> realized I should have only *one* table set up with rows & columns as needed.
> I did that, moving text and images as appropriate, then removed the extra
> tables.
>
> Now I notice (example:
> http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm) that there are
> huge areas of white space in the html. Is it safe to remove all that? Other
> pages don't have that much white space between the sections of code.
>
> Thanks for advice.
> --
> Sue

Thank you. Yes, right page despite my goof. I am using FP2000 and it does not
appear to have the optimize option. Since I'm just learning, I thought I'd
keep the web in 2000 until I'm more familiar with the process and have had a
chance to explore 2003 with some test webs.

I really appreciate your help with this ... was hesitant to mess around with
the html.

JDR" wrote:

> Sue,
>
> I am assuming you are refering to this page:
> http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/cornlodge.htm
>
> Yes, you can remove the whitespace without any problem. FP 03 has the
> option to optimize html when publishing to the destination server, but it
> appears you are using FP 2000, so I believe you'll have to edit this in html
> view (Can't remember if 00 has optimize option).
>
> JDR
> *********************
>
> "SueF" wrote:
>
> > When I saw so many recommendations to use tables, I created tables and
> > started moving all my text and images into them. During learning process I
> > realized I should have only *one* table set up with rows & columns as needed.
> > I did that, moving text and images as appropriate, then removed the extra
> > tables.
> >
> > Now I notice (example:
> > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm) that there are
> > huge areas of white space in the html. Is it safe to remove all that? Other
> > pages don't have that much white space between the sections of code.
> >
> > Thanks for advice.
> > --
> > Sue

you're better off not messing with the optimize anyway.


"SueF" <SueF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3D4F6705-CF03-4030-A953-135E24CDCEF0@microsoft.com...
| Thank you. Yes, right page despite my goof. I am using FP2000 and it does not
| appear to have the optimize option. Since I'm just learning, I thought I'd
| keep the web in 2000 until I'm more familiar with the process and have had a
| chance to explore 2003 with some test webs.
|
| I really appreciate your help with this ... was hesitant to mess around with
| the html.
|
| JDR" wrote:
|
| > Sue,
| >
| > I am assuming you are refering to this page:
| > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/cornlodge.htm
| >
| > Yes, you can remove the whitespace without any problem. FP 03 has the
| > option to optimize html when publishing to the destination server, but it
| > appears you are using FP 2000, so I believe you'll have to edit this in html
| > view (Can't remember if 00 has optimize option).
| >
| > JDR
| > *********************
| >
| > "SueF" wrote:
| >
| > > When I saw so many recommendations to use tables, I created tables and
| > > started moving all my text and images into them. During learning process I
| > > realized I should have only *one* table set up with rows & columns as needed.
| > > I did that, moving text and images as appropriate, then removed the extra
| > > tables.
| > >
| > > Now I notice (example:
| > > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm) that there are
| > > huge areas of white space in the html. Is it safe to remove all that? Other
| > > pages don't have that much white space between the sections of code.
| > >
| > > Thanks for advice.
| > > --
| > > Sue

"SueF" <SueF@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3D4F6705-CF03-4030-A953-135E24CDCEF0@microsoft.com...
> Thank you. Yes, right page despite my goof. I am using FP2000 and it does
> not
> appear to have the optimize option. Since I'm just learning, I thought I'd
> keep the web in 2000 until I'm more familiar with the process and have had
> a
> chance to explore 2003 with some test webs.
>
> I really appreciate your help with this ... was hesitant to mess around
> with > the html.
>

It's always OK to mess with code or anything else AFTER you have saved under
another nake so you can get it back when you reach the point of no return.
Tom J

Sue,

As Tom mentioned, feel free to work with the html, it's how you learn.

Just create a directory (Folder) in your FrontPage web called "Backup", copy
the file you are going to work on into the Backup directory. Now work with
your file and when ready to go to File > Preview in Browser.

If everything is functioning properly, publish to your destination server
and then test it again.

If for some reason the file gets messed up and you aren't sure what to do,
you just restore it with your backup..

When developing sites it is also important to understand what the code is
doing, and being comfortable within the html view is the first step..

Have fun and remember it's only code, your house will not blow up if you
make a mistake :--))

JDR
**************

"SueF" wrote:

> Thank you. Yes, right page despite my goof. I am using FP2000 and it does not
> appear to have the optimize option. Since I'm just learning, I thought I'd
> keep the web in 2000 until I'm more familiar with the process and have had a
> chance to explore 2003 with some test webs.
>
> I really appreciate your help with this ... was hesitant to mess around with
> the html.
>
> JDR" wrote:
>
> > Sue,
> >
> > I am assuming you are refering to this page:
> > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/cornlodge.htm
> >
> > Yes, you can remove the whitespace without any problem. FP 03 has the
> > option to optimize html when publishing to the destination server, but it
> > appears you are using FP 2000, so I believe you'll have to edit this in html
> > view (Can't remember if 00 has optimize option).
> >
> > JDR
> > *********************
> >
> > "SueF" wrote:
> >
> > > When I saw so many recommendations to use tables, I created tables and
> > > started moving all my text and images into them. During learning process I
> > > realized I should have only *one* table set up with rows & columns as needed.
> > > I did that, moving text and images as appropriate, then removed the extra
> > > tables.
> > >
> > > Now I notice (example:
> > > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm) that there are
> > > huge areas of white space in the html. Is it safe to remove all that? Other
> > > pages don't have that much white space between the sections of code.
> > >
> > > Thanks for advice.
> > > --
> > > Sue

Why can't they get Front Page to optimize as a TOOL instead of during
publishing?
It would be more useful.


"JDR" wrote:

> Sue,
>
> As Tom mentioned, feel free to work with the html, it's how you learn.
>
> Just create a directory (Folder) in your FrontPage web called "Backup", copy
> the file you are going to work on into the Backup directory. Now work with
> your file and when ready to go to File > Preview in Browser.
>
> If everything is functioning properly, publish to your destination server
> and then test it again.
>
> If for some reason the file gets messed up and you aren't sure what to do,
> you just restore it with your backup..
>
> When developing sites it is also important to understand what the code is
> doing, and being comfortable within the html view is the first step..
>
> Have fun and remember it's only code, your house will not blow up if you
> make a mistake :--))
>
> JDR
> **************
>
> "SueF" wrote:
>
> > Thank you. Yes, right page despite my goof. I am using FP2000 and it does not
> > appear to have the optimize option. Since I'm just learning, I thought I'd
> > keep the web in 2000 until I'm more familiar with the process and have had a
> > chance to explore 2003 with some test webs.
> >
> > I really appreciate your help with this ... was hesitant to mess around with
> > the html.
> >
> > JDR" wrote:
> >
> > > Sue,
> > >
> > > I am assuming you are refering to this page:
> > > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/cornlodge.htm
> > >
> > > Yes, you can remove the whitespace without any problem. FP 03 has the
> > > option to optimize html when publishing to the destination server, but it
> > > appears you are using FP 2000, so I believe you'll have to edit this in html
> > > view (Can't remember if 00 has optimize option).
> > >
> > > JDR
> > > *********************
> > >
> > > "SueF" wrote:
> > >
> > > > When I saw so many recommendations to use tables, I created tables and
> > > > started moving all my text and images into them. During learning process I
> > > > realized I should have only *one* table set up with rows & columns as needed.
> > > > I did that, moving text and images as appropriate, then removed the extra
> > > > tables.
> > > >
> > > > Now I notice (example:
> > > > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm) that there are
> > > > huge areas of white space in the html. Is it safe to remove all that? Other
> > > > pages don't have that much white space between the sections of code.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for advice.
> > > > --
> > > > Sue

Because many of the optimizations would make your FP web non-functional in FP (depending on which design time / run time components
you used)
- and good luck "editing" a page in Code view w/ all white space removed from the code

--

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"Miklos" <Miklos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:347108B7-8903-4DD5-891C-6D034FD265E4@microsoft.com...
| Why can't they get Front Page to optimize as a TOOL instead of during
| publishing?
| It would be more useful.
|
|
| "JDR" wrote:
|
| > Sue,
| >
| > As Tom mentioned, feel free to work with the html, it's how you learn.
| >
| > Just create a directory (Folder) in your FrontPage web called "Backup", copy
| > the file you are going to work on into the Backup directory. Now work with
| > your file and when ready to go to File > Preview in Browser.
| >
| > If everything is functioning properly, publish to your destination server
| > and then test it again.
| >
| > If for some reason the file gets messed up and you aren't sure what to do,
| > you just restore it with your backup..
| >
| > When developing sites it is also important to understand what the code is
| > doing, and being comfortable within the html view is the first step..
| >
| > Have fun and remember it's only code, your house will not blow up if you
| > make a mistake :--))
| >
| > JDR
| > **************
| >
| > "SueF" wrote:
| >
| > > Thank you. Yes, right page despite my goof. I am using FP2000 and it does not
| > > appear to have the optimize option. Since I'm just learning, I thought I'd
| > > keep the web in 2000 until I'm more familiar with the process and have had a
| > > chance to explore 2003 with some test webs.
| > >
| > > I really appreciate your help with this ... was hesitant to mess around with
| > > the html.
| > >
| > > JDR" wrote:
| > >
| > > > Sue,
| > > >
| > > > I am assuming you are refering to this page:
| > > > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/cornlodge.htm
| > > >
| > > > Yes, you can remove the whitespace without any problem. FP 03 has the
| > > > option to optimize html when publishing to the destination server, but it
| > > > appears you are using FP 2000, so I believe you'll have to edit this in html
| > > > view (Can't remember if 00 has optimize option).
| > > >
| > > > JDR
| > > > *********************
| > > >
| > > > "SueF" wrote:
| > > >
| > > > > When I saw so many recommendations to use tables, I created tables and
| > > > > started moving all my text and images into them. During learning process I
| > > > > realized I should have only *one* table set up with rows & columns as needed.
| > > > > I did that, moving text and images as appropriate, then removed the extra
| > > > > tables.
| > > > >
| > > > > Now I notice (example:
| > > > > http://www.hellscanyonchamber.com/b...ng/cornlodgehtm) that there are
| > > > > huge areas of white space in the html. Is it safe to remove all that? Other
| > > > > pages don't have that much white space between the sections of code.
| > > > >
| > > > > Thanks for advice.
| > > > > --
| > > > > Sue