Fixing text size

Hi,

I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:

I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access it on
their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics and the
overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set to large
or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this even
when the setting are ok.

My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size settings
changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not change in any
way. How do I do this?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Francis:

You cannot. The sites you have visited where it seems you can are using
pixels for text sizing with CSS. IE is the only browser that will not
resize this text, and if you use the Accessability option in IE, you can
defeat that. All other browsers will resize all text on the page "out of
the box" so to speak.

So - the answer to your question is that there is no way to prevent this
from happening.

This puts some design constraints on you as the developer, to be sure. What
it means is that you must build the site so that it accommodates such text
resizing. Unfortunately, as long as you use tables for site layout, this is
not easy to do. With CSS methods, you have a great deal more control over
container widths and sizes, but that is much more advanced layout
methodology.

--
Murray

"Francis" <nospam@nospam.none> wrote in message
news:cjrcok$8ni$1@kermit.esat.net...
> Hi,
>
> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
>
> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access it on
> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics and the
> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set to large
> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this even
> when the setting are ok.
>
> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size settings
> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not change in
> any
> way. How do I do this?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>

Hi Francis,

I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it with the
following directions;

On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your mouse,
right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write 12px
than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it will help.
Please let me know the result.
Hulya


"Francis" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
>
> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access it on
> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics and the
> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set to large
> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this even
> when the setting are ok.
>
> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size settings
> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not change in any
> way. How do I do this?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>
>

That doesn't work - sorry. All modern browsers will be able to change that.

--
Murray
============

"Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B81A92D-4B6D-47AD-8CDF-346C2F229C2D@microsoft.com...
> Hi Francis,
>
> I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it with the
> following directions;
>
> On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your mouse,
> right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
> Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write 12px
> than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it will
> help.
> Please let me know the result.
> Hulya
>
>
> "Francis" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
>>
>> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access it on
>> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics and the
>> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set to
>> large
>> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this even
>> when the setting are ok.
>>
>> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size settings
>> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not change in
>> any
>> way. How do I do this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>>
>>

Hi Murray,
What do you mean by that??? ( modern browsers) Because I was reading all
the suggestion about it. I mean I was using font size as 10pt, it was
horrible when I was trying to view with my browser, when I change it form
10pt to 12px, I seems working out at leats with my browser. It does not make
any different if size of text larger or medium or small..

"Murray" wrote:

> That doesn't work - sorry. All modern browsers will be able to change that.
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6B81A92D-4B6D-47AD-8CDF-346C2F229C2D@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Francis,
> >
> > I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it with the
> > following directions;
> >
> > On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your mouse,
> > right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
> > Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write 12px
> > than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it will
> > help.
> > Please let me know the result.
> > Hulya
> >
> >
> > "Francis" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
> >>
> >> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access it on
> >> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics and the
> >> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set to
> >> large
> >> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this even
> >> when the setting are ok.
> >>
> >> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size settings
> >> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not change in
> >> any
> >> way. How do I do this?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

In FireFox, Mozilla, Netscape, Safari, I can zoom the text size regardless
of your use of pixels. In IE, I can do this by enabling my accessability
options. What I mean is that it doesn't work.

The only way you can fix your text size is to use images, and you know how
bad that is.

--
Murray
============

"Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6A6CECA7-FE24-48EC-9A04-50C768D9C31A@microsoft.com...
> Hi Murray,
> What do you mean by that??? ( modern browsers) Because I was reading all
> the suggestion about it. I mean I was using font size as 10pt, it was
> horrible when I was trying to view with my browser, when I change it form
> 10pt to 12px, I seems working out at leats with my browser. It does not
> make
> any different if size of text larger or medium or small..
>
> "Murray" wrote:
>
>> That doesn't work - sorry. All modern browsers will be able to change
>> that.
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> ============
>>
>> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6B81A92D-4B6D-47AD-8CDF-346C2F229C2D@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Francis,
>> >
>> > I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it with
>> > the
>> > following directions;
>> >
>> > On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your
>> > mouse,
>> > right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
>> > Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write 12px
>> > than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it will
>> > help.
>> > Please let me know the result.
>> > Hulya
>> >
>> >
>> > "Francis" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
>> >>
>> >> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access it
>> >> on
>> >> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics and
>> >> the
>> >> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set to
>> >> large
>> >> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this
>> >> even
>> >> when the setting are ok.
>> >>
>> >> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size
>> >> settings
>> >> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not change
>> >> in
>> >> any
>> >> way. How do I do this?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Hi Murray,
What I understand if I will use images, than search engines can not index my
web site. Actually I don't want to that.
I might be wrong, but what I understand that, regular people using
microsoft. As a microsoft users will work. Please let me understands this.

"Murray" wrote:

> In FireFox, Mozilla, Netscape, Safari, I can zoom the text size regardless
> of your use of pixels. In IE, I can do this by enabling my accessability
> options. What I mean is that it doesn't work.
>
> The only way you can fix your text size is to use images, and you know how
> bad that is.
>
> --
> Murray
> ============
>
> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6A6CECA7-FE24-48EC-9A04-50C768D9C31A@microsoft.com...
> > Hi Murray,
> > What do you mean by that??? ( modern browsers) Because I was reading all
> > the suggestion about it. I mean I was using font size as 10pt, it was
> > horrible when I was trying to view with my browser, when I change it form
> > 10pt to 12px, I seems working out at leats with my browser. It does not
> > make
> > any different if size of text larger or medium or small..
> >
> > "Murray" wrote:
> >
> >> That doesn't work - sorry. All modern browsers will be able to change
> >> that.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Murray
> >> ============
> >>
> >> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:6B81A92D-4B6D-47AD-8CDF-346C2F229C2D@microsoft.com...
> >> > Hi Francis,
> >> >
> >> > I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it with
> >> > the
> >> > following directions;
> >> >
> >> > On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your
> >> > mouse,
> >> > right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
> >> > Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write 12px
> >> > than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it will
> >> > help.
> >> > Please let me know the result.
> >> > Hulya
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Francis" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
> >> >>
> >> >> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access it
> >> >> on
> >> >> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics and
> >> >> the
> >> >> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set to
> >> >> large
> >> >> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this
> >> >> even
> >> >> when the setting are ok.
> >> >>
> >> >> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size
> >> >> settings
> >> >> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not change
> >> >> in
> >> >> any
> >> >> way. How do I do this?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

> What I understand if I will use images, than search engines can not index
> my
> web site. Actually I don't want to that.

That's correct.

> what I understand that, regular people using
> microsoft. As a microsoft users will work. Please let me understands this.

You understand incorrectly. Open IE, and use TOOLS > Internet Options... >
Accessability > Formatting - Ignore font sizes specified on Web pages. You
will now be able to resize any font on any page. People who use any other
modern browser will not even have to do this. They can just resize right
away.

--
Murray
============

"Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:104D71E0-1970-4D8F-B73D-B8D481EC25AB@microsoft.com...
> Hi Murray,
> What I understand if I will use images, than search engines can not index
> my
> web site. Actually I don't want to that.
> I might be wrong, but what I understand that, regular people using
> microsoft. As a microsoft users will work. Please let me understands this.
>
> "Murray" wrote:
>
>> In FireFox, Mozilla, Netscape, Safari, I can zoom the text size
>> regardless
>> of your use of pixels. In IE, I can do this by enabling my accessability
>> options. What I mean is that it doesn't work.
>>
>> The only way you can fix your text size is to use images, and you know
>> how
>> bad that is.
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> ============
>>
>> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6A6CECA7-FE24-48EC-9A04-50C768D9C31A@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Murray,
>> > What do you mean by that??? ( modern browsers) Because I was reading
>> > all
>> > the suggestion about it. I mean I was using font size as 10pt, it was
>> > horrible when I was trying to view with my browser, when I change it
>> > form
>> > 10pt to 12px, I seems working out at leats with my browser. It does
>> > not
>> > make
>> > any different if size of text larger or medium or small..
>> >
>> > "Murray" wrote:
>> >
>> >> That doesn't work - sorry. All modern browsers will be able to change
>> >> that.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Murray
>> >> ============
>> >>
>> >> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:6B81A92D-4B6D-47AD-8CDF-346C2F229C2D@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi Francis,
>> >> >
>> >> > I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it with
>> >> > the
>> >> > following directions;
>> >> >
>> >> > On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your
>> >> > mouse,
>> >> > right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
>> >> > Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write 12px
>> >> > than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it
>> >> > will
>> >> > help.
>> >> > Please let me know the result.
>> >> > Hulya
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Francis" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> large
>> >> >> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this
>> >> >> even
>> >> >> when the setting are ok.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size
>> >> >> settings
>> >> >> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not
>> >> >> change
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> any
>> >> >> way. How do I do this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

"Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:104D71E0-1970-4D8F-B73D-B8D481EC25AB@microsoft.com...
> Hi Murray,
> What I understand if I will use images, than search engines can not index
> my
> web site. Actually I don't want to that.
> I might be wrong, but what I understand that, regular people using
> microsoft. As a microsoft users will work. Please let me understands this.
>
> "Murray" wrote:
>
>> In FireFox, Mozilla, Netscape, Safari, I can zoom the text size
>> regardless
>> of your use of pixels. In IE, I can do this by enabling my accessability
>> options. What I mean is that it doesn't work.
>>
>> The only way you can fix your text size is to use images, and you know
>> how
>> bad that is.
>>
>> --
>> Murray
>> ============
>>
>> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6A6CECA7-FE24-48EC-9A04-50C768D9C31A@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi Murray,
>> > What do you mean by that??? ( modern browsers) Because I was reading
>> > all
>> > the suggestion about it. I mean I was using font size as 10pt, it was
>> > horrible when I was trying to view with my browser, when I change it
>> > form
>> > 10pt to 12px, I seems working out at leats with my browser. It does
>> > not
>> > make
>> > any different if size of text larger or medium or small..
>> >
>> > "Murray" wrote:
>> >
>> >> That doesn't work - sorry. All modern browsers will be able to change
>> >> that.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Murray
>> >> ============
>> >>
>> >> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:6B81A92D-4B6D-47AD-8CDF-346C2F229C2D@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Hi Francis,
>> >> >
>> >> > I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it with
>> >> > the
>> >> > following directions;
>> >> >
>> >> > On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your
>> >> > mouse,
>> >> > right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
>> >> > Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write 12px
>> >> > than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it
>> >> > will
>> >> > help.
>> >> > Please let me know the result.
>> >> > Hulya
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Francis" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people access
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> large
>> >> >> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does this
>> >> >> even
>> >> >> when the setting are ok.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size
>> >> >> settings
>> >> >> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not
>> >> >> change
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> any
>> >> >> way. How do I do this?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
>> >> >>

It doesn't matter what you want. Our Computer Club members (all 55+ years)
are now quite adept at enlarging the text from the keyboard. It seems that
developers want small font 'cause it looks cool. When one can't read it,
it's a real turn off. In our classes, we recommend a person find another
site if they can't read the text.

Don't put stumbling blocks in the users way! I too have visited site where
the text size has been restricted for Internet Explorer. My default browser
is Firefox. Ctrl++ will increase the text size.

>regular people using microsoft
ummm... Has it occurred to you that there are a number (and growing) of
"regular" people who don't use IE?

Bob Lehmann

"Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:104D71E0-1970-4D8F-B73D-B8D481EC25AB@microsoft.com...
> Hi Murray,
> What I understand if I will use images, than search engines can not index
my
> web site. Actually I don't want to that.
> I might be wrong, but what I understand that, regular people using
> microsoft. As a microsoft users will work. Please let me understands this.
>
> "Murray" wrote:
>
> > In FireFox, Mozilla, Netscape, Safari, I can zoom the text size
regardless
> > of your use of pixels. In IE, I can do this by enabling my
accessability
> > options. What I mean is that it doesn't work.
> >
> > The only way you can fix your text size is to use images, and you know
how
> > bad that is.
> >
> > --
> > Murray
> > ============
> >
> > "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:6A6CECA7-FE24-48EC-9A04-50C768D9C31A@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi Murray,
> > > What do you mean by that??? ( modern browsers) Because I was reading
all
> > > the suggestion about it. I mean I was using font size as 10pt, it was
> > > horrible when I was trying to view with my browser, when I change it
form
> > > 10pt to 12px, I seems working out at leats with my browser. It does
not
> > > make
> > > any different if size of text larger or medium or small..
> > >
> > > "Murray" wrote:
> > >
> > >> That doesn't work - sorry. All modern browsers will be able to
change
> > >> that.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Murray
> > >> ============
> > >>
> > >> "Hulya Erol" <HulyaErol@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:6B81A92D-4B6D-47AD-8CDF-346C2F229C2D@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Hi Francis,
> > >> >
> > >> > I had the same problem as you do. Actually I was able to fix it
with
> > >> > the
> > >> > following directions;
> > >> >
> > >> > On view menu, click design, than highlight the text ares with your
> > >> > mouse,
> > >> > right click with the mouse, select font and click again.
> > >> > Where you see the size it migth be (10pt) delete that and write
12px
> > >> > than click apply than ok. save it, than try to view. I'm sure it
will
> > >> > help.
> > >> > Please let me know the result.
> > >> > Hulya
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > "Francis" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I would be very grateful if anyone knows the answer to this one:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I run a website, everything is fine, except when some people
access it
> > >> >> on
> > >> >> their computers the text resizes and totally spoils the graphics
and
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> overall layout. Sometimes its because the they have text size set
to
> > >> >> large
> > >> >> or small in their browser settings, and sometimes it just does
this
> > >> >> even
> > >> >> when the setting are ok.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> My question - I have visited sites where even with the text size
> > >> >> settings
> > >> >> changed on the browser, the text is a fixed size and does not
change
> > >> >> in
> > >> >> any
> > >> >> way. How do I do this?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks in advance for your help.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
> >