Layer positioning

I'm using Layers, with a visibility set off, in
conjunction with a mouseover Behavior which makes it
visible. The problem is that I cannot set the Layer to be
in a fixed position. If you look at www.kentlta.org.uk
I've set the top 4 hyperlinks with a mouseover property
but when the layers are made visible I want them to line
up exactly with the boxes they pertain to. Because I have
their position set to relative they move depending on the
browsers attributes. Am I making myself clear? My
question is: How do I give a Layer a fixed position?

Set them in fixed a fixed width centered table containing 4 fixed width
columns and eliminate the relative / absolute positioning.

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"Ray" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm using Layers, with a visibility set off, in
> conjunction with a mouseover Behavior which makes it
> visible. The problem is that I cannot set the Layer to be
> in a fixed position. If you look at www.kentlta.org.uk
> I've set the top 4 hyperlinks with a mouseover property
> but when the layers are made visible I want them to line
> up exactly with the boxes they pertain to. Because I have
> their position set to relative they move depending on the
> browsers attributes. Am I making myself clear? My
> question is: How do I give a Layer a fixed position?

Hello Ray
I had that problem on drop-down menus that I created and I found out that you can set exactly the same behaviour to a layer and position exactly
So click on the Layer Id and than go to "Format" and choose "Behaviours". Insert the onmouseover option and Change the Property in "Position" and visible. (Before you go to the 'Behaviours" menu, in the Layer Task Pane, right-click on the position go get the position parameters.
I checked your website www.kentlta.org.uk and this is going to solve your problem
Best regards
Tony

Tnanks - but I already have a table with the hyperlinks
and pictures - how would I position another table over
that?
Ray
>-----Original Message-----
>Set them in fixed a fixed width centered table
containing 4 fixed width
>columns and eliminate the relative / absolute
positioning.
>
>--
>Steve Easton
>Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>95isalive
>This site is best viewed............
>........................with a computer
>
>"Ray" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:10b4a01c40edd$b705fa00$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> I'm using Layers, with a visibility set off, in
>> conjunction with a mouseover Behavior which makes it
>> visible. The problem is that I cannot set the Layer to
be
>> in a fixed position. If you look at www.kentlta.org.uk
>> I've set the top 4 hyperlinks with a mouseover property
>> but when the layers are made visible I want them to
line
>> up exactly with the boxes they pertain to. Because I
have
>> their position set to relative they move depending on
the
>> browsers attributes. Am I making myself clear? My
>> question is: How do I give a Layer a fixed position?
>
>
>.
>

Tony
Thanks for your reply, but haven't I done exactly as you
describe? The trouble I have is that if I make the
position absolute then the drop-down doesn't always
appear directly underneath the hyperlink. I want it to
block out the picture in the table. But if I make the
layer Relative then it seems to get converted to a table
cell and then I have no control over where it goes.
Absolute gives it a fixed position, but if the browser
window size is either large or small then the layer will
not be directly under the hyperlink.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hello Ray:
>I had that problem on drop-down menus that I created and
I found out that you can set exactly the same behaviour
to a layer and position exactly.
>So click on the Layer Id and than go to "Format" and
choose "Behaviours". Insert the onmouseover option and
Change the Property in "Position" and visible. (Before
you go to the 'Behaviours" menu, in the Layer Task Pane,
right-click on the position go get the position
parameters.)
>I checked your website www.kentlta.org.uk and this is
going to solve your problem.
>Best regards,
>Tony
>.
>

I don't use layer or dhtml, but...

Couldn't you include the image on a layer as well, then when it is moused over, it would hide and
then the menu link would appear thereby replace the image?

If you need to use absolute positioning, change your page layout to be left aligned and the table
set to be a fixed width of say, 750 pixels.

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"Ray" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Tony
> Thanks for your reply, but haven't I done exactly as you
> describe? The trouble I have is that if I make the
> position absolute then the drop-down doesn't always
> appear directly underneath the hyperlink. I want it to
> block out the picture in the table. But if I make the
> layer Relative then it seems to get converted to a table
> cell and then I have no control over where it goes.
> Absolute gives it a fixed position, but if the browser
> window size is either large or small then the layer will
> not be directly under the hyperlink.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hello Ray:
> >I had that problem on drop-down menus that I created and
> I found out that you can set exactly the same behaviour
> to a layer and position exactly.
> >So click on the Layer Id and than go to "Format" and
> choose "Behaviours". Insert the onmouseover option and
> Change the Property in "Position" and visible. (Before
> you go to the 'Behaviours" menu, in the Layer Task Pane,
> right-click on the position go get the position
> parameters.)
> >I checked your website www.kentlta.org.uk and this is
> going to solve your problem.
> >Best regards,
> >Tony
> >.
> >

Thanks to all who replied. I finally sorted it with a
combination of what you all said, but the key was in
making the table a fixed width and then the Layers could
be in Absolute positions, regardless of browser
attributes.
>-----Original Message-----
>I'm using Layers, with a visibility set off, in
>conjunction with a mouseover Behavior which makes it
>visible. The problem is that I cannot set the Layer to
be
>in a fixed position. If you look at www.kentlta.org.uk
>I've set the top 4 hyperlinks with a mouseover property
>but when the layers are made visible I want them to line
>up exactly with the boxes they pertain to. Because I
have
>their position set to relative they move depending on
the
>browsers attributes. Am I making myself clear? My
>question is: How do I give a Layer a fixed position?
>.
>

So could I achieve a similar effect without using DHTML
or layers, and without having to write any Java scripts?
>-----Original Message-----
>I don't use layer or dhtml, but...
>
>Couldn't you include the image on a layer as well, then
when it is moused over, it would hide and
>then the menu link would appear thereby replace the
image?
>
>If you need to use absolute positioning, change your
page layout to be left aligned and the table
>set to be a fixed width of say, 750 pixels.
>
>--
> ==============================================
>Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
>http://www.ycoln-resources.com
>FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
>==============================================
>To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage
support see:
>http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
>
>"Ray" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:1119701c40f46$c8af1020$a101280a@phx.gbl...
>> Tony
>> Thanks for your reply, but haven't I done exactly as
you
>> describe? The trouble I have is that if I make the
>> position absolute then the drop-down doesn't always
>> appear directly underneath the hyperlink. I want it to
>> block out the picture in the table. But if I make the
>> layer Relative then it seems to get converted to a
table
>> cell and then I have no control over where it goes.
>> Absolute gives it a fixed position, but if the browser
>> window size is either large or small then the layer
will
>> not be directly under the hyperlink.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hello Ray:
>> >I had that problem on drop-down menus that I created
and
>> I found out that you can set exactly the same behaviour
>> to a layer and position exactly.
>> >So click on the Layer Id and than go to "Format" and
>> choose "Behaviours". Insert the onmouseover option and
>> Change the Property in "Position" and visible. (Before
>> you go to the 'Behaviours" menu, in the Layer Task
Pane,
>> right-click on the position go get the position
>> parameters.)
>> >I checked your website www.kentlta.org.uk and this is
>> going to solve your problem.
>> >Best regards,
>> >Tony
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

No, as you have to use DHTML/JavaScript to show/hide the menu options, if you want to continue to
use that type design/structure.

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"Ray" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> So could I achieve a similar effect without using DHTML
> or layers, and without having to write any Java scripts?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I don't use layer or dhtml, but...
> >
> >Couldn't you include the image on a layer as well, then
> when it is moused over, it would hide and
> >then the menu link would appear thereby replace the
> image?
> >
> >If you need to use absolute positioning, change your
> page layout to be left aligned and the table
> >set to be a fixed width of say, 750 pixels.
> >
> >--
> > ==============================================
> >Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> >WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> >http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> >FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> >==============================================
> >To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage
> support see:
> >http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> >
> >"Ray" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:1119701c40f46$c8af1020$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> >> Tony
> >> Thanks for your reply, but haven't I done exactly as
> you
> >> describe? The trouble I have is that if I make the
> >> position absolute then the drop-down doesn't always
> >> appear directly underneath the hyperlink. I want it to
> >> block out the picture in the table. But if I make the
> >> layer Relative then it seems to get converted to a
> table
> >> cell and then I have no control over where it goes.
> >> Absolute gives it a fixed position, but if the browser
> >> window size is either large or small then the layer
> will
> >> not be directly under the hyperlink.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Hello Ray:
> >> >I had that problem on drop-down menus that I created
> and
> >> I found out that you can set exactly the same behaviour
> >> to a layer and position exactly.
> >> >So click on the Layer Id and than go to "Format" and
> >> choose "Behaviours". Insert the onmouseover option and
> >> Change the Property in "Position" and visible. (Before
> >> you go to the 'Behaviours" menu, in the Layer Task
> Pane,
> >> right-click on the position go get the position
> >> parameters.)
> >> >I checked your website www.kentlta.org.uk and this is
> >> going to solve your problem.
> >> >Best regards,
> >> >Tony
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >
> >.
> >