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      15th Jul 2012
Thanks V_R, apreciate the offer but too much on my plate atm tbh. I'd bid up to 16 and with 9 postage that's 25 quid. There have been 8 bids so far though and I reckon it will sell for more than that.

The seller says they have more for sale coming up in the near future so I'll keep an eye out.

 
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      15th Jul 2012
Hi all. Trev from Australia here. Noticed your speakers Flops. Great job on your turntable. You make me feel guilty of getting rid of a couple of old studio turntables I had. Are they custom? How is the top end? Noticed the lack of separate drivers. I know there is a lot to be said for not needing a crossover. lol I'm fairly heavy into home brew hifi here also. Run a luxman P350 turntable, OPPO blueray for audio CD playback and an old Pioneer PD91 cd player, highly modded kit power amp, Metaxis class A pre amp and home brew Scanspeak 7" bass tweeter bass combo for main speakers and custom stereo 350W subs as speaker stands. Hope your stay in hospital was not too painful, both emotional or physical. Like to hear of your other projects.
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      15th Jul 2012
Hiya Trev. I'm using Frugel Horn Mk III cabinets Link with a pair of full range Mark Audio CHP70 loudspeakers Link and the top end's fine. They're fully run in now and to my ear sound very good indeed, surprisingly deep bass from such a small driver.

Initially I used a pair of home made 'super tweeters' with them with internal C-R filters but they made very little difference at all so I don't currently use them.

They're driven by a pair of monoblock 10 watt push-pull valve amps with EL84's on the output and a home made switcher. Turntable goes through a solid state Pro-Ject RIAA unit but I intend to upgrade that to a valve unit.

No other projects at the moment really, but I did build my own DAC from some Ebay boards which the media computer goes through.

And my hospital stay starts tomorrow but thank you for your good wishes

 
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      9th Aug 2012
Now have a Denon DL110 high output MC cartridge fitted to the one with the Mayware arm. The Mayware arm, incidentally, took a helluva lot of setting up to get it just right, mucho tinkering abounded but I think I have it at optimum settings now, though I could be wrong.

So, 110 on one, Denon DL103 on t'other, Decca Pivot arm. Realising the different arms will influence matters nevertheless here's a quick comparison as noted by my aged lugholes.

First thing I noticed about the DL 110 is it gives out a lot more bass than the 103.

110: Tracks at 1.8 grams, huge bass that sometimes verges on 'woolly' depending on type of music. So much bass that it can tend to overwhelm fine high end detail. Very much suited to folk and acoustic and classical, tends to get a bit muddy on overblown rock music where there's a trillion things going on at once. When it's in it's element tends to have more presence than the 103, close your eyes and vocals could be in the room with you, Sandy Denny sounded superb. As did Gregory Issacs singing Night Nurse.

The 110 is touted as being able to track old vinyl very well but the truth is the 103 appears to handle worn records rather better than the 110.

103: Subtle, tight bass, lottsa high end detail. Good all rounder in my opinion. Tracks up to 2.8 grams, mine is set at 2.5 grams and thus set it does manage to tackle a lot of old and worn vinyl very well. One way to describe playing vinyl with the 103 would be 'comfortable'. Listening is pleasant and it doesn't do anything to make you jump out of your seat, it just handles the music with subtle aplomb.

Overall, I prefer the 103. I do like the sound of both but to be quite honest instead of spending 149.00 on the DL110 I'd probably have been better off spending 40 on a substitute replica stylus for my Nagaoka MM MP-11 cartridge.

Still, dat's life as they say, no regrets, it has been an interesting experience

 
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      10th Aug 2012
It would be wonderful to be able to hear them... do you suppose you might post something on YouTube? I know it wouldn't be the same as actually being there, in your room, but it would be very interesting to have a listen.
 
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      19th Aug 2012
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It would be wonderful to be able to hear them... do you suppose you might post something on YouTube? I know it wouldn't be the same as actually being there, in your room, but it would be very interesting to have a listen.
Here we go, especially for you Mz Cat, they're not perfect but you can watch the platter go round and round and round and round....

Recorded on my Canon G9 camera which gives out a rather tinny sound plus these were done yesterday, the hottest day so far this year and I had a room fan going which you can hear at beginning and end. Plus there are a few clinks and clonks which is me zooming about doing stuff.

I also tried to upload an old soul single from 1968 up to Youtube but it's not having it, I've tried 4 times now It was the original theme tune I used when I started doing discos. The one I switched to is here though and also the very first single I bought for the disco.

But first, Stevie Wonder's Higher Ground, wide view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SIisptHqlA

The Zephyr Song by Red Hot Chili Peppers, closer view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldoRmbKfiwk

And here's the 'theme tune' I eventually used for discos, The Small Faces Wide Eyed Girl On The Wall. Eventually thought theme tunes were a bit naff so only used this for about 2 months then never bothered again.

The theme tune woz wot we played before we started rabbiting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMhDl8Ckrbk

And lastly here's the very first single I bought when I started doing discos in 1971, T Rex's Get It On. I also done a tour with T Rex as a roadie that year, hard work but good fun, lottsa, ahem, ladies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcIxI21nkjw

 
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      19th Aug 2012
... nearly fell off the chair, was that a chipmunk?


 

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... nearly fell off the chair, was that a chipmunk?

Yes it was It's a hand puppet I had as a kid and somehow I've still got it. It used to have a plastic face but that broke so my Mum made the tapestry boatrace you see there.

I managed to get Up hard. On Youtube that is...

Here's my first ever DJ Disco Groovy Tony-Two-Decks fab theme tune - not arf!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQzl7yYYhAc&feature

 
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      19th Aug 2012
Your little furry friend's appearance made me laugh too, as did the very expressive, Sir Floppington digit!!

The music was great! Sounded very impressive, I thought. I love the "live" sound of vinyl. CDs are technically good, but vinyl has that 'certain something,' doesn't it. There is a vibrancy and livliness that sets it apart apart.

I actually rather enjoy watching the platter go round and round... it takes me back to when I was small. I liked nothing better than to be allowed to stand on a chair, with my head stuck into my grandparents roll-top radiogram, listening to "Sparky and His Talking Piano" playing on an old 78 rpm. It used to transport me to another world,

Thanks muchly for posting, I'm just going to play them again...
 
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      19th Aug 2012
Great sound Flops takes me back to my youth and the good old vinyl, somehow CD's have no soul. You certainly did a great job of resurrecting those decks and they not only sound good but look good, well done.
 
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