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Is SP4 stable/reliable/compatible ?

 
 
Jimmy
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      8th Sep 2003
I have a friend with a small business and network who is on SP2. I
was about to recommend that he upgrade to SP4 but I've seen a few
posts indicating problems with SP4 and applications - and he uses
a ton of MS and other business applications.

Should I point him to SP3 instead ? Reliability and security is what
he needs and I just need to get him up to date on the patches. I'd
prefer to go SP4 & patch instead of SP3 and (lots of) patches,
but I'm a little concerned about SP4.

Thanks,
J
 
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Gerald
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      8th Sep 2003
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>-----Original Message-----
>I have a friend with a small business and network who is

on SP2. I
>was about to recommend that he upgrade to SP4 but I've

seen a few
>posts indicating problems with SP4 and applications - and

he uses
>a ton of MS and other business applications.
>
>Should I point him to SP3 instead ? Reliability and

security is what
>he needs and I just need to get him up to date on the

patches. I'd
>prefer to go SP4 & patch instead of SP3 and (lots of)

patches,
>but I'm a little concerned about SP4.
>
>Thanks,
>J
>.
>

 
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George Hester
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      9th Sep 2003
Well I would wait on SP4. There is an HTML Help problem that I believe everyone has that has SP4. There is no fix that I have seen that works.

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George Hester
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"Jimmy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> I have a friend with a small business and network who is on SP2. I
> was about to recommend that he upgrade to SP4 but I've seen a few
> posts indicating problems with SP4 and applications - and he uses
> a ton of MS and other business applications.
>
> Should I point him to SP3 instead ? Reliability and security is what
> he needs and I just need to get him up to date on the patches. I'd
> prefer to go SP4 & patch instead of SP3 and (lots of) patches,
> but I'm a little concerned about SP4.
>
> Thanks,
> J

 
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Torgeir Bakken (MVP)
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      9th Sep 2003
George Hester wrote:

> Jimmy wrote:
> > I have a friend with a small business and network who is on SP2. I
> > was about to recommend that he upgrade to SP4 but I've seen a few
> > posts indicating problems with SP4 and applications - and he uses
> > a ton of MS and other business applications.
> >
> > Should I point him to SP3 instead ? Reliability and security is what
> > he needs and I just need to get him up to date on the patches. I'd
> > prefer to go SP4 & patch instead of SP3 and (lots of) patches,
> > but I'm a little concerned about SP4.

>
> Well I would wait on SP4. There is an HTML Help problem that I believe everyone has that has SP4. There is no fix that I have seen that works.


Hi

Unregistering and then registering hhctrl.ocx works for me and others to solve the problem, alternatively deleting "Compatibility Flags" under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]

e.g.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...svl.unisys.com

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...69%40hydro.com

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Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter


 
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George Hester
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      10th Sep 2003
Hi Torgeir:

I wish those had worked for me but neither did. The unregister\registering of hhctrl.ocx removed the compatibility flag (maybe) altogether so that one I cannot do. I had this:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]
"AlternateCLSID"="{41B23C28-488E-4E5C-ACE2-BB0BBABE99E8}"

I did remove this value but when I re-registered hhctrl.ocx I got this back. I have no compatibility flag value. And have never seen one in here.

This one has me stumped. I seem to have all that you mentioned in the registry but still have the issue. I do have a system that is at SP4 has no other applications so I'll go over to that and see what I can see.

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George Hester
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"Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" <Torgeir.Bakken-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> George Hester wrote:
>
> > Jimmy wrote:
> > > I have a friend with a small business and network who is on SP2. I
> > > was about to recommend that he upgrade to SP4 but I've seen a few
> > > posts indicating problems with SP4 and applications - and he uses
> > > a ton of MS and other business applications.
> > >
> > > Should I point him to SP3 instead ? Reliability and security is what
> > > he needs and I just need to get him up to date on the patches. I'd
> > > prefer to go SP4 & patch instead of SP3 and (lots of) patches,
> > > but I'm a little concerned about SP4.

> >
> > Well I would wait on SP4. There is an HTML Help problem that I believe everyone has that has SP4. There is no fix that I have seen that works.

>
> Hi
>
> Unregistering and then registering hhctrl.ocx works for me and others to solve the problem, alternatively deleting "Compatibility Flags" under
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
> Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]
>
> e.g.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...svl.unisys.com
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...69%40hydro.com
>
> --
> torgeir
> Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page Scripting Guide: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter
>
>

 
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Jimmy
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      10th Sep 2003
On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:43:28 -0400, "George Hester"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Hi Torgeir:
>
> I wish those had worked for me but neither did.


What about other applicaiton issues ? I've seen some posts from folks
who had MS-Office problems after installing SP4, backing down to
SP3 apparently fixed the problems.

Any comments ?

Thanks,

 
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George Hester
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      10th Sep 2003
No Office problems that I can tell. I have Office XP which is at SP2. I have yet to go over to my other install of Windows 2000 SP4. So as of yet I haven't determined that has the issue. If it does I'll try these suggestions and see if that fixes it. If it does then I'd say this install of Windows 2000 SP4 is bum. Funny thing is this issue makes my Help almost totally worthless which I know was fine until the SP4 install. I'll tell you one thing in my Server it's not getting SP4 that's for sure.

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"Jimmy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 22:43:28 -0400, "George Hester"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >Hi Torgeir:
> >
> > I wish those had worked for me but neither did.

>
> What about other applicaiton issues ? I've seen some posts from folks
> who had MS-Office problems after installing SP4, backing down to
> SP3 apparently fixed the problems.
>
> Any comments ?
>
> Thanks,
>

 
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Mark V
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      11th Sep 2003
George Hester wrote in news:(E-Mail Removed):

> Hi Torgeir:
>
> I wish those had worked for me but neither did. The
> unregister\registering of hhctrl.ocx removed the compatibility
> flag (maybe) altogether so that one I cannot do. I had this:
>
> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
> Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]
> "AlternateCLSID"="{41B23C28-488E-4E5C-ACE2-BB0BBABE99E8}"
>
> I did remove this value but when I re-registered hhctrl.ocx I got
> this back. I have no compatibility flag value. And have never
> seen one in here.
>
> This one has me stumped. I seem to have all that you mentioned in
> the registry but still have the issue. I do have a system that is
> at SP4 has no other applications so I'll go over to that and see
> what I can see.


Did you also try the
delete hh.dat in your profile's
x:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Microsoft\HTML Help\
location?

I have the same "AlternateCLSID" an no "Compatibility" and HTML
Help is working here FWIW.


 
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George Hester
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      11th Sep 2003
I saw that earlier Mark V. And did think about doing it. But what that does is remove all favorites that have been saved in chm files. All of them. So I'm gonna wait and see if there is something I can gander from my other op sys and see if I can do anything. I may have to do that but I really hate losing all my favorites. Oh well if it's necessary...crap

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"Mark V" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:Xns93F2BE5612440z9zzaQ2btw@207.46.248.16...
> George Hester wrote in news:(E-Mail Removed):
>
> > Hi Torgeir:
> >
> > I wish those had worked for me but neither did. The
> > unregister\registering of hhctrl.ocx removed the compatibility
> > flag (maybe) altogether so that one I cannot do. I had this:
> >
> > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\ActiveX
> > Compatibility\{ADB880A6-D8FF-11CF-9377-00AA003B7A11}]
> > "AlternateCLSID"="{41B23C28-488E-4E5C-ACE2-BB0BBABE99E8}"
> >
> > I did remove this value but when I re-registered hhctrl.ocx I got
> > this back. I have no compatibility flag value. And have never
> > seen one in here.
> >
> > This one has me stumped. I seem to have all that you mentioned in
> > the registry but still have the issue. I do have a system that is
> > at SP4 has no other applications so I'll go over to that and see
> > what I can see.

>
> Did you also try the
> delete hh.dat in your profile's
> x:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Microsoft\HTML Help\
> location?
>
> I have the same "AlternateCLSID" an no "Compatibility" and HTML
> Help is working here FWIW.
>
>

 
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Mark V
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      11th Sep 2003
George Hester wrote in news:#1fXa7$(E-Mail Removed):

> I saw that earlier Mark V. And did think about doing it. But
> what that does is remove all favorites that have been saved in chm
> files. All of them. So I'm gonna wait and see if there is
> something I can gander from my other op sys and see if I can do
> anything. I may have to do that but I really hate losing all my
> favorites. Oh well if it's necessary...crap


Well you could just rename it and see.... ;-)


 
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