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Zack Griendling
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      19th May 2005
We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago to
upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember what
exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get rid of it.

At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems with
Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised AGAINST
upgrading.

Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer has slowed
to a crawl and is unusable.

If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the newsgroup,
upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?

Suggestions welcomed.

Bob


 
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Ted Zieglar
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      19th May 2005
SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service Packs are
like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's why it's
important to be very sure that everything on your computer is working
correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports, virus- and
spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you may very well
experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published lots of
information to help. Start here:

"What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2"
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx

Ted Zieglar


"Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago to
> upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember what
> exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get rid of
> it.
>
> At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems with
> Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
> AGAINST
> upgrading.
>
> Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer has
> slowed
> to a crawl and is unusable.
>
> If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the newsgroup,
> upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
>
> Suggestions welcomed.
>
> Bob
>
>


 
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Karla Leavelle
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      19th May 2005
Well, I haven't run AdAware in a couple of days, but the reason I wanted to
install SP2 was because my anti-virus software, AVG, has found 28 viruses
every day. Searching on the 'net, I found that the type of virus was
addressed by installing service pack 2. So it's a chicken and egg thing. I
can't get my computer clean until I install SP2 and now you say I can't
install SP 2 until I clean the computer.

So what now that I have render this machine useless?

Bob


"Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service Packs
> are like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's why
> it's important to be very sure that everything on your computer is working
> correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports, virus- and
> spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you may very well
> experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published lots of
> information to help. Start here:
>
> "What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2"
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
>
> "Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago to
>> upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember what
>> exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get rid of
>> it.
>>
>> At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems with
>> Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
>> AGAINST
>> upgrading.
>>
>> Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer has
>> slowed
>> to a crawl and is unusable.
>>
>> If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the
>> newsgroup,
>> upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
>>
>> Suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>

>



 
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Zack Griendling
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      19th May 2005
FYI, responding from two different computers Zack and Karla are the same
person, and my name is Bob!

Bob
"Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service Packs

are
> like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's why it's
> important to be very sure that everything on your computer is working
> correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports, virus- and
> spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you may very well
> experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published lots of
> information to help. Start here:
>
> "What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2"
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
>
> "Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> > We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago to
> > upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember

what
> > exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get rid of
> > it.
> >
> > At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems with
> > Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
> > AGAINST
> > upgrading.
> >
> > Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer has
> > slowed
> > to a crawl and is unusable.
> >
> > If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the

newsgroup,
> > upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
> >
> > Suggestions welcomed.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >

>



 
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Ted Zieglar
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      19th May 2005
No, SP 2 does not contain anti-virus software. It strengthens the underlying
security of the operating system to reduce your chances of being infected,
but it does not remove viruses or spyware. As the information on Microsoft's
web site explains, your computer must be free of viruses and spyware -
completely - before installing SP 2.

Ted Zieglar

"Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Well, I haven't run AdAware in a couple of days, but the reason I wanted
> to install SP2 was because my anti-virus software, AVG, has found 28
> viruses every day. Searching on the 'net, I found that the type of virus
> was addressed by installing service pack 2. So it's a chicken and egg
> thing. I can't get my computer clean until I install SP2 and now you say
> I can't install SP 2 until I clean the computer.
>
> So what now that I have render this machine useless?
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service Packs
>> are like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's why
>> it's important to be very sure that everything on your computer is
>> working correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports,
>> virus- and spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you may
>> very well experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published lots
>> of information to help. Start here:
>>
>> "What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2"
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>>
>> "Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago to
>>> upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember
>>> what
>>> exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get rid of
>>> it.
>>>
>>> At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems with
>>> Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
>>> AGAINST
>>> upgrading.
>>>
>>> Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer has
>>> slowed
>>> to a crawl and is unusable.
>>>
>>> If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the
>>> newsgroup,
>>> upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
>>>
>>> Suggestions welcomed.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


 
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Karla Leavelle
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      19th May 2005
Can all the files in C:\Documents and Settings\Zack\jpi_cache\jar\1.0 be
deleted without harming my computer??

That's where AVG identifies Java/Byte/Verify "infected embedded object."

Bob


"Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> No, SP 2 does not contain anti-virus software. It strengthens the

underlying
> security of the operating system to reduce your chances of being infected,
> but it does not remove viruses or spyware. As the information on

Microsoft's
> web site explains, your computer must be free of viruses and spyware -
> completely - before installing SP 2.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Well, I haven't run AdAware in a couple of days, but the reason I wanted
> > to install SP2 was because my anti-virus software, AVG, has found 28
> > viruses every day. Searching on the 'net, I found that the type of

virus
> > was addressed by installing service pack 2. So it's a chicken and egg
> > thing. I can't get my computer clean until I install SP2 and now you

say
> > I can't install SP 2 until I clean the computer.
> >
> > So what now that I have render this machine useless?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> > "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> >> SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service

Packs
> >> are like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's

why
> >> it's important to be very sure that everything on your computer is
> >> working correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports,
> >> virus- and spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you may
> >> very well experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published

lots
> >> of information to help. Start here:
> >>
> >> "What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack

2"
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
> >>
> >> Ted Zieglar
> >>
> >>
> >> "Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> >> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> >>> We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago to
> >>> upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember
> >>> what
> >>> exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get rid

of
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems with
> >>> Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
> >>> AGAINST
> >>> upgrading.
> >>>
> >>> Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer has
> >>> slowed
> >>> to a crawl and is unusable.
> >>>
> >>> If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the
> >>> newsgroup,
> >>> upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
> >>>
> >>> Suggestions welcomed.
> >>>
> >>> Bob
> >>>
> >>>
> >>

> >
> >

>



 
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Ted Zieglar
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      19th May 2005
Perhaps, but that won't get rid of the virus. Good antivirus software is
equippred to remove viruses completely. Don't try to remove it on your own.

Ted Zieglar

"Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Can all the files in C:\Documents and Settings\Zack\jpi_cache\jar\1.0 be
> deleted without harming my computer??
>
> That's where AVG identifies Java/Byte/Verify "infected embedded object."
>
> Bob
>
>
> "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> No, SP 2 does not contain anti-virus software. It strengthens the

> underlying
>> security of the operating system to reduce your chances of being
>> infected,
>> but it does not remove viruses or spyware. As the information on

> Microsoft's
>> web site explains, your computer must be free of viruses and spyware -
>> completely - before installing SP 2.
>>
>> Ted Zieglar
>>
>> "Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> > Well, I haven't run AdAware in a couple of days, but the reason I
>> > wanted
>> > to install SP2 was because my anti-virus software, AVG, has found 28
>> > viruses every day. Searching on the 'net, I found that the type of

> virus
>> > was addressed by installing service pack 2. So it's a chicken and egg
>> > thing. I can't get my computer clean until I install SP2 and now you

> say
>> > I can't install SP 2 until I clean the computer.
>> >
>> > So what now that I have render this machine useless?
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> >
>> > "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >> SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service

> Packs
>> >> are like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's

> why
>> >> it's important to be very sure that everything on your computer is
>> >> working correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports,
>> >> virus- and spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you may
>> >> very well experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published

> lots
>> >> of information to help. Start here:
>> >>
>> >> "What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack

> 2"
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
>> >>
>> >> Ted Zieglar
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> >> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> >>> We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago
>> >>> to
>> >>> upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember
>> >>> what
>> >>> exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get rid

> of
>> >>> it.
>> >>>
>> >>> At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems
>> >>> with
>> >>> Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
>> >>> AGAINST
>> >>> upgrading.
>> >>>
>> >>> Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer has
>> >>> slowed
>> >>> to a crawl and is unusable.
>> >>>
>> >>> If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the
>> >>> newsgroup,
>> >>> upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
>> >>>
>> >>> Suggestions welcomed.
>> >>>
>> >>> Bob
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>


 
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Karla Leavelle
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      20th May 2005
Well, since you didn't advise me what to do once I had upgraded to SP2 and
certina functions of my computer slowewd to a crawl, I removed the update,
went to the site you sugeested, and updated all the drivers and maximized my
performance (Scan disk, defrag, etc.). I also went into safe mode and ran
the anti-virus software (AVG) and got rid of the Java/Byte/Verify virus.

I ran Adaware several times to get rid of spyware and then tried to upgrade
to SP2 again.

Now certina functions are still very slow.

Boot up to the log in screen is fine, but once I chose a profile, the
background (including a photo) comes up fine, but it takes:
4:00 (four minutes) for the task bar at the bottom of screen to appear
2:00 more until desktop icons appear
2:00 more until all icons change from generic to their usual icons
2:00 more for icons in taskbar to come up
2:00 more for the Office shortcut bar to appear, for a total boot up time of
about 12:00.

Then when I hit Start to choose a program, it can take another 1:30 for it
to open, another 1-2:00 after hitting "Programs" for the program list to
appear and just as long to close the start menu. Once I open IE, browsing
is fine and are other applications, except Outlook Express, launced by the
Read News function within IE too 1-2:00 to luacnh.

As I write this, I can't get to my taskbar items at the bottom of my screen
becasue a double sided arrow is there.

Any suggestions?

Bob

"Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Perhaps, but that won't get rid of the virus. Good antivirus software is
> equippred to remove viruses completely. Don't try to remove it on your
> own.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Can all the files in C:\Documents and Settings\Zack\jpi_cache\jar\1.0 be
>> deleted without harming my computer??
>>
>> That's where AVG identifies Java/Byte/Verify "infected embedded object."
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> No, SP 2 does not contain anti-virus software. It strengthens the

>> underlying
>>> security of the operating system to reduce your chances of being
>>> infected,
>>> but it does not remove viruses or spyware. As the information on

>> Microsoft's
>>> web site explains, your computer must be free of viruses and spyware -
>>> completely - before installing SP 2.
>>>
>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>
>>> "Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > Well, I haven't run AdAware in a couple of days, but the reason I
>>> > wanted
>>> > to install SP2 was because my anti-virus software, AVG, has found 28
>>> > viruses every day. Searching on the 'net, I found that the type of

>> virus
>>> > was addressed by installing service pack 2. So it's a chicken and egg
>>> > thing. I can't get my computer clean until I install SP2 and now you

>> say
>>> > I can't install SP 2 until I clean the computer.
>>> >
>>> > So what now that I have render this machine useless?
>>> >
>>> > Bob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >> SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service

>> Packs
>>> >> are like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's

>> why
>>> >> it's important to be very sure that everything on your computer is
>>> >> working correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports,
>>> >> virus- and spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you
>>> >> may
>>> >> very well experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published

>> lots
>>> >> of information to help. Start here:
>>> >>
>>> >> "What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack

>> 2"
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
>>> >>
>>> >> Ted Zieglar
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> >> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >>> We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember
>>> >>> what
>>> >>> exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get
>>> >>> rid

>> of
>>> >>> it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems
>>> >>> with
>>> >>> Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
>>> >>> AGAINST
>>> >>> upgrading.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer
>>> >>> has
>>> >>> slowed
>>> >>> to a crawl and is unusable.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the
>>> >>> newsgroup,
>>> >>> upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Suggestions welcomed.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bob
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>

>>
>>

>



 
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Bob Griendling
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      20th May 2005
As you didn’t advise what to do after I had already upgraded unsuccessfully
to SP 2, I removed it and went to the article you suggested and did
everything they recommended (installed drivers, updated settings and ran
scan disk and defrag). I also booted up in safe mode as Symantec advised and
got rid of the viruses on the computer.

However, once I again installed SP 2, many functions slowed to a crawl or
stopped responding. Boot up was fine until I hit the log on screen. The
background and photo appeared fine, but it took: 4:00 (four minutes) for the
task bar to appear, another 2:00 for icons on my desktop to appear, another
2:00 for them to finish, another 2:00 for icons in the task bar to appear
and another 2:00 for the MS Office shortcut bar to appear, for a total of
more than 12 minutes to boot up.

After hitting the start button, it took about 1:30 for it to open and at
least that long after hitting Programs for the program list to populate.
Everything in the task bar and start menu was very slow, but applications
and browsing are fine.

All the application, once I can get to them, work normally and usually
browsing is fine, although sometimes when I log off, I get a message saying
iexplore.exe and explore.exe are not responding.

When I first tried to send you this message, the Outlook Express stopped
responding, so I'm sending this from yet another computer.

Do you have any suggestions?

Bob Griendling





"Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
> Perhaps, but that won't get rid of the virus. Good antivirus software is
> equippred to remove viruses completely. Don't try to remove it on your
> own.
>
> Ted Zieglar
>
> "Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Can all the files in C:\Documents and Settings\Zack\jpi_cache\jar\1.0 be
>> deleted without harming my computer??
>>
>> That's where AVG identifies Java/Byte/Verify "infected embedded object."
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> No, SP 2 does not contain anti-virus software. It strengthens the

>> underlying
>>> security of the operating system to reduce your chances of being
>>> infected,
>>> but it does not remove viruses or spyware. As the information on

>> Microsoft's
>>> web site explains, your computer must be free of viruses and spyware -
>>> completely - before installing SP 2.
>>>
>>> Ted Zieglar
>>>
>>> "Karla Leavelle" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> > Well, I haven't run AdAware in a couple of days, but the reason I
>>> > wanted
>>> > to install SP2 was because my anti-virus software, AVG, has found 28
>>> > viruses every day. Searching on the 'net, I found that the type of

>> virus
>>> > was addressed by installing service pack 2. So it's a chicken and egg
>>> > thing. I can't get my computer clean until I install SP2 and now you

>> say
>>> > I can't install SP 2 until I clean the computer.
>>> >
>>> > So what now that I have render this machine useless?
>>> >
>>> > Bob
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Ted Zieglar" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> > news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >> SP 2 really is a no brainer - everyone should have it. But Service

>> Packs
>>> >> are like judgement day for computers with underlying problems. That's

>> why
>>> >> it's important to be very sure that everything on your computer is
>>> >> working correctly, configured only in ways that Microsoft supports,
>>> >> virus- and spyware-free, and completely up to date. Otherwise, you
>>> >> may
>>> >> very well experience problems. Fortunately, Microsoft has published

>> lots
>>> >> of information to help. Start here:
>>> >>
>>> >> "What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack

>> 2"
>>> >> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
>>> >>
>>> >> Ted Zieglar
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Zack Griendling" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>>> >> news:%(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> >>> We have a HP pavilion, 1.6 G, 512 RAM with XP. We tried months ago
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> upgrade to Service Pak 2 and the computer crashed. I can't remember
>>> >>> what
>>> >>> exactly happened, but I know I had to restore the registry to get
>>> >>> rid

>> of
>>> >>> it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At the time, there was coincidentally articles about the problems
>>> >>> with
>>> >>> Service Pack 2. in fact, my daughter's college specifically advised
>>> >>> AGAINST
>>> >>> upgrading.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Today, nearly a year later, I decided to try again. The computer
>>> >>> has
>>> >>> slowed
>>> >>> to a crawl and is unusable.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> If, as has been suggested in a thread of another message on the
>>> >>> newsgroup,
>>> >>> upgrading is a "no brainer," why is it destroying my computer?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Suggestions welcomed.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Bob
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>

>>
>>

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