I currently have the A7N8X Deluxe mb, version 1.xx, running an Athlon XP
2400+ at app 2.1 ghz.
I also am running Corsair XMS twin matched LL ram - pc3200.
Right now, I am running a bus speed of 197 mhz. My system does not seem to
be stable running at 200 mhz fsb.

I would like to order a Barton XP2500+ , and overclock it to XP3000+ or even
XP3200+ speeds, at 200 mhz fsb or even slightly higher.
Would I need to upgrade to a Revision 2.0 A7N8X Deluxe mb to be able to run
at 200 mhz and have it stable? Seems like I read some time ago , that even
though the later bios' for the previous versions of this mb allows setting
it to 200 mhz fsb, it will not run correctly unless it is a version 2.0 mb?
Is this correct?

I don't imagine it would be a big deal, even with version 2.0, the mb being
virtually identical, I would think my hard drive with XP Pro installed would
be able to be just transferred over, boot up, and run as it has been. At
worst I could do a repair install of XP Pro, but with the mb's basically
being the same, I would expect not to even have to go to that length.

Would appreciate any feedback on this.

--
Don Burnette

I would say it's the 2400+, not the mobo. That's a 266fsb cpu
and runs at 2.0 ghz w/o oc'ing.
The barton's performance rating is crud! AMD went way out on this!
The 2600+/333 non-barton's are disappearing, I like the 2700+, but it's
still pricey!
Except for the overclocking, I prefer the 2400+/266 over the barton 2500!
The amd 64's, the way to go, it's an intel killer, even the mac g5 is taking
a back seat.


"Don Burnette" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:6iidnTuI28-RVzmiU-(E-Mail Removed)...
> I currently have the A7N8X Deluxe mb, version 1.xx, running an Athlon XP
> 2400+ at app 2.1 ghz.
> I also am running Corsair XMS twin matched LL ram - pc3200.
> Right now, I am running a bus speed of 197 mhz. My system does not seem to
> be stable running at 200 mhz fsb.
>
> I would like to order a Barton XP2500+ , and overclock it to XP3000+ or
even
> XP3200+ speeds, at 200 mhz fsb or even slightly higher.
> Would I need to upgrade to a Revision 2.0 A7N8X Deluxe mb to be able to
run
> at 200 mhz and have it stable? Seems like I read some time ago , that
even
> though the later bios' for the previous versions of this mb allows setting
> it to 200 mhz fsb, it will not run correctly unless it is a version 2.0
mb?
> Is this correct?
>
> I don't imagine it would be a big deal, even with version 2.0, the mb
being
> virtually identical, I would think my hard drive with XP Pro installed
would
> be able to be just transferred over, boot up, and run as it has been. At
> worst I could do a repair install of XP Pro, but with the mb's basically
> being the same, I would expect not to even have to go to that length.
>
> Would appreciate any feedback on this.
>
> --
> Don Burnette
>
>
>

>I currently have the A7N8X Deluxe mb, version 1.xx, running an Athlon XP
>2400+ at app 2.1 ghz.
>I also am running Corsair XMS twin matched LL ram - pc3200.
>Right now, I am running a bus speed of 197 mhz. My system does not seem to
>be stable running at 200 mhz fsb.
>
>I would like to order a Barton XP2500+ , and overclock it to XP3000+ or even
>XP3200+ speeds, at 200 mhz fsb or even slightly higher.
>Would I need to upgrade to a Revision 2.0 A7N8X Deluxe mb to be able to run
>at 200 mhz and have it stable? Seems like I read some time ago , that even
>though the later bios' for the previous versions of this mb allows setting
>it to 200 mhz fsb, it will not run correctly unless it is a version 2.0 mb?
>Is this correct?
>
>I don't imagine it would be a big deal, even with version 2.0, the mb being
>virtually identical, I would think my hard drive with XP Pro installed would
>be able to be just transferred over, boot up, and run as it has been. At
>worst I could do a repair install of XP Pro, but with the mb's basically
>being the same, I would expect not to even have to go to that length.
>
>Would appreciate any feedback on this.

I have revision 2.0 and run 197FSB for the same reason you do. I have
the same RAM you have but I believe the RAM is the problem not the CPU
or mobo. Using other CPU's on this board give similar stability
trouble higher than 197. My Sandra RAM scores are around 3000 and
that's what really matters anyway.

A7N8X 2.0 DLX
2500+ @ 3200+
Volcano 11+ HSF
Corsair Xtreme 2x 256MB
GF FX 5200 ultra
Plextor CDR
DVD drive
Antec case/PSU
Default RAM, Vcore voltage
RAM locked to 100%
AGP locked to 66Mhz

------------
When your PC gives a little they give a lot.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/disco

I had an older revision 2400+ that would not overclock well at all.The
newer 2400+ cores I would assume overclock better.The 2400+ I now a have
a Barton that runs a 2.2Ghz 3200+ speeds without raising the voltage! It
is stable because I ran prime95 for 12 hours straight without an error.
The temps maxed out at 98-100 degree F under full load.I am using a
Thermalright SLK-900A Heatsink with Mechatronics 80mm 53cfm fan.

BoB wrote:
> I would say it's the 2400+, not the mobo. That's a 266fsb cpu
> and runs at 2.0 ghz w/o oc'ing.
> The barton's performance rating is crud! AMD went way out on this!
> The 2600+/333 non-barton's are disappearing, I like the 2700+, but it's
> still pricey!
> Except for the overclocking, I prefer the 2400+/266 over the barton 2500!
> The amd 64's, the way to go, it's an intel killer, even the mac g5 is taking
> a back seat.
>
>
> "Don Burnette" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:6iidnTuI28-RVzmiU-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
>>I currently have the A7N8X Deluxe mb, version 1.xx, running an Athlon XP
>>2400+ at app 2.1 ghz.
>>I also am running Corsair XMS twin matched LL ram - pc3200.
>>Right now, I am running a bus speed of 197 mhz. My system does not seem to
>>be stable running at 200 mhz fsb.
>>
>>I would like to order a Barton XP2500+ , and overclock it to XP3000+ or
>
> even
>
>>XP3200+ speeds, at 200 mhz fsb or even slightly higher.
>>Would I need to upgrade to a Revision 2.0 A7N8X Deluxe mb to be able to
>
> run
>
>>at 200 mhz and have it stable? Seems like I read some time ago , that
>
> even
>
>>though the later bios' for the previous versions of this mb allows setting
>>it to 200 mhz fsb, it will not run correctly unless it is a version 2.0
>
> mb?
>
>>Is this correct?
>>
>>I don't imagine it would be a big deal, even with version 2.0, the mb
>
> being
>
>>virtually identical, I would think my hard drive with XP Pro installed
>
> would
>
>>be able to be just transferred over, boot up, and run as it has been. At
>>worst I could do a repair install of XP Pro, but with the mb's basically
>>being the same, I would expect not to even have to go to that length.
>>
>>Would appreciate any feedback on this.
>>
>>--
>>Don Burnette
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 03:11:11 -0600, "Don Burnette"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I currently have the A7N8X Deluxe mb, version 1.xx, running an Athlon XP
>2400+ at app 2.1 ghz.
>I also am running Corsair XMS twin matched LL ram - pc3200.
>Right now, I am running a bus speed of 197 mhz. My system does not seem to
>be stable running at 200 mhz fsb.
>
>I would like to order a Barton XP2500+ , and overclock it to XP3000+ or even
>XP3200+ speeds, at 200 mhz fsb or even slightly higher.
>Would I need to upgrade to a Revision 2.0 A7N8X Deluxe mb to be able to run
>at 200 mhz and have it stable? Seems like I read some time ago , that even
>though the later bios' for the previous versions of this mb allows setting
>it to 200 mhz fsb, it will not run correctly unless it is a version 2.0 mb?
>Is this correct?
>
>I don't imagine it would be a big deal, even with version 2.0, the mb being
>virtually identical, I would think my hard drive with XP Pro installed would
>be able to be just transferred over, boot up, and run as it has been. At
>worst I could do a repair install of XP Pro, but with the mb's basically
>being the same, I would expect not to even have to go to that length.
>
>Would appreciate any feedback on this.

I have this mb and the 2500+ working easily at 3200+. You just have
to buy appropriate ram. I'm no expert, but the 1gig (2x512) of low
latency TWINX1024-3200LLPT Corsair ram I purchased seems just fine. I
have the sticks in sockets 1 & 3. (check out www.newegg.com)

I also have the Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu cpu cooler with the 120mm fan.
This has given me the coolest and quietest pc I've ever built. (the
cpu/mb temps are 45/33. The core voltage was not adjusted yet it's
been stable as a rock for a couple of months now. (This came from
Fry's)

I can also recommend the wd raptor sata drives. I have 2 of them in
raid 0. Gee they're fast. (newegg) I understand wd is coming out
with a larger version of these drives, but I haven't seen any for sale
yet.

My only regrettable purchase was the ati 9800 pro card. The digital
interface wont work with my 21in Viewsonic vp211b display. The
analog interface works though, so I kept it. (Both from Fry's)

Oh, I never got the lan ports working on the a7n8x. One is by nvidia
and the other 3com. I finally disabled both of them in the bios and
stuck a cheap lan card in from my junk pile. Works fine. No other
problems. Great sound.

Regards,
Larry

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:51:01 -0800, ldg <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

oops
>
>I also have the Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu cpu cooler with the 120mm fan.


92mm
http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/prod...ps7000alcu.htm


win2k operating system

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 16:18:47 -0800, ldg <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:51:01 -0800, ldg <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>oops
>>
>>I also have the Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu cpu cooler with the 120mm fan.
>
>
>92mm
>http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/prod...ps7000alcu.htm
>
>
>win2k operating system

And that thing fits the A7N8X? Very well.

tired of spam, no email address
"ldg" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
| On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 03:11:11 -0600, "Don Burnette"
| <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
|
| >I currently have the A7N8X Deluxe mb, version 1.xx, running an
Athlon XP
| >2400+ at app 2.1 ghz.
| >I also am running Corsair XMS twin matched LL ram - pc3200.
| >Right now, I am running a bus speed of 197 mhz. My system does not
seem to
| >be stable running at 200 mhz fsb.
| >
| >I would like to order a Barton XP2500+ , and overclock it to
XP3000+ or even
| >XP3200+ speeds, at 200 mhz fsb or even slightly higher.
| >Would I need to upgrade to a Revision 2.0 A7N8X Deluxe mb to be
able to run
| >at 200 mhz and have it stable? Seems like I read some time ago ,
that even
| >though the later bios' for the previous versions of this mb allows
setting
| >it to 200 mhz fsb, it will not run correctly unless it is a version
2.0 mb?
| >Is this correct?
| >
| >I don't imagine it would be a big deal, even with version 2.0, the
mb being
| >virtually identical, I would think my hard drive with XP Pro
installed would
| >be able to be just transferred over, boot up, and run as it has
been. At
| >worst I could do a repair install of XP Pro, but with the mb's
basically
| >being the same, I would expect not to even have to go to that
length.
| >
| >Would appreciate any feedback on this.
|
| I have this mb and the 2500+ working easily at 3200+. You just have
| to buy appropriate ram. I'm no expert, but the 1gig (2x512) of low
| latency TWINX1024-3200LLPT Corsair ram I purchased seems just fine.
I
| have the sticks in sockets 1 & 3. (check out www.newegg.com)
|
| I also have the Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu cpu cooler with the 120mm fan.
| This has given me the coolest and quietest pc I've ever built. (the
| cpu/mb temps are 45/33. The core voltage was not adjusted yet it's
| been stable as a rock for a couple of months now. (This came from
| Fry's)
|
| I can also recommend the wd raptor sata drives. I have 2 of them in
| raid 0. Gee they're fast. (newegg) I understand wd is coming out
| with a larger version of these drives, but I haven't seen any for
sale
| yet.
|
| My only regrettable purchase was the ati 9800 pro card. The digital
| interface wont work with my 21in Viewsonic vp211b display. The
| analog interface works though, so I kept it. (Both from Fry's)
|
| Oh, I never got the lan ports working on the a7n8x. One is by
nvidia
| and the other 3com. I finally disabled both of them in the bios and
| stuck a cheap lan card in from my junk pile. Works fine. No other
| problems. Great sound.
|
| Regards,
| Larry


I've seen comments such as yours more than once concerning the onboard
NICs. Not sure why peeps have problems with them. Both of the
onboard NICs work fine for me, and both seem to be quite speedy (don't
really notice any difference therebetween in surfing/gaming). I only
recently installed the mobo, and at first the 3com was not using the
correct driver, but a manual "driver update" procedure via device
manager fixed that problem, and all is well. I'm using win2k on my
a7n8x-dlx mobo.
--
Best regards,
Kyle

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 02:40:51 -0500, "Kyle Brant" <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>I've seen comments such as yours more than once concerning the onboard
>NICs. Not sure why peeps have problems with them. Both of the
>onboard NICs work fine for me, and both seem to be quite speedy (don't
>really notice any difference therebetween in surfing/gaming). I only
>recently installed the mobo, and at first the 3com was not using the
>correct driver, but a manual "driver update" procedure via device
>manager fixed that problem, and all is well. I'm using win2k on my
>a7n8x-dlx mobo.
>--
>Best regards,
>Kyle


I actually started out using the 3com port on my lan, but for some
reason it stopped working. It seemed to die slowly, so I mistakenly
called my isp to see if they were having problems. (I have a wireless
high speed internet connection, a router, a lan box, and 4 computers
sharing drives.) It turned out to be a problem with just the single
machine on the lan. I switched to the nvidia port and some of it's
lights weren't alive - basically it was dead as a doornail. Since I
needed to get this box going in a hurry for a job, I just disabled
both ports and put an old lan card in. That was a month or 2 ago and
it's still working just fine. I may go back to troubleshooting the
onboard ports when I have time, but there's not much to gain right
now.

To be fair, I was jin the process oft sorting out dynamic versus
static addressing from my router to the various machines. I couldn't
maintain the shared disk drives with dynamic addressing. Static
addressing fixed it. I doubt that caused the 3com port to fail, but
my recollection is a mixture of 2 problems.

It appears that the drivers that come with the card work fine with
some boards and not with others. I've read both sides in this
newsgroup. I didn't do anything unusual. I tried updating the
drivers from the cdrom and downloads at the time, but nothing seemed
to work. I was sort of put off that something so simple would take so
much time. Oh well . . .

Otherwise I like the card well enough to buy another, if that's a
help. I'm looking at 64bits for my next machine, though waiting for
the dust to settle a bit before jumping in.

Regards,
Larry

I have a Coolermaste Aero7 Lite on my 2500+ Barton (OC to 3000+)
and it is very quiet. I have the squirrel cage set to ~2700rpm,
stay in the mid 40s under load and I cannot hear it at all. My
low noise Panasonic case fans are louder than the Aero7.

-Wayne


In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed)
says...
>
>On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:30:43 GMT, dgk
><sonicechoes-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>>And that thing fits the A7N8X? Very well.
>
>It's tight, but it fits . . . and it seems to work well. I've tried
>a few of the high end coolers and this one seems to work best so far.
>
>I have 2 of the Alpha Pal 8045 coolers (~$40) with pabst 80mm fans on
>them. I've tried fans with speed controllers, but it seemed like when
>I got the cooling I wanted, the noise was back. Pabst fans seemed to
>be the answer, but they're pretty expensive for a fan. (~$20) So you
>have about $60 in this setup with the fan and cooler.
>
>I also tried the NoiseControl Silverado with it's weird squirrel cage
>fans. It comes with several values of resistors that you put in
>series with the fan to slow it down. I found that I had to use pretty
>low resistor values to get the cooling and the noise came back. It
>has a nice piece of silver for spreading the heat though. Very
>expensive. ~$65 as I remember, but it includes the squirrel cage fans
>and several cables with different value resistors.. This cooler
>stands so far off the motherboard the center of gravity is a problem -
>it has way too much available torque on the board. I was afraid to
>move the case.
>
>(I used Arctic Silver on every heat sink.)
>
>The Zalman beats them all for ~$35. It has the largest fan and very
>low rpms. The fins apparently have plenty of area to carry the heat
>with the resulting air flow. It does have a potentiometer to set the
>speed, but I just set it in the middle somewhere. The profile is low
>enough that I don't feel uncomfortable with it even with the weight on
>the board. (Don't push it though.)
>
>I'm an engineer and use these computers in my work. I need high
>speed, large memory to handle large graphic files, and I prefer
>something that doesn't sound like a Hoover.
>
>If someone has found a better low noise forced convection heat sink,
>let me know. Better performance seems to lead to larger fans with
>lower rpms and lots of surface area on the heat sink. I don't want to
>fool with water cooling just yet.
>
>Regards,
>Larry
>
>