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dave.rado@mvps.org
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      20th Aug 2012
Hi

I have an XP laptop that is on its last legs, and a Windows 7 one that I'vebought to replace it. The old one no longer reads external media (such as CDs or my USB drive), so the only way I can get my data across to the new machine is by sharing its files on my wireless network.

On my XP machine, under Tools + Folder Options + View, I have selected "Usesimple file sharing (recommended)". It was deselected before, but is selected now.

Having done the above, I then right-clicked my C:\ drive and selected sharing and security. According to help pages such as the one at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't. I do have a "Sharing" tab, though, but the help page at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS says: "If no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab appears instead, close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was enabled in the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing option *is* enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.

What am I doing wrong?

Dave
 
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Paul in Houston TX
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      21st Aug 2012
(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have an XP laptop that is on its last legs, and a Windows 7 one
> that I've bought to replace it. The old one no longer reads external
> media (such as CDs or my USB drive), so the only way I can get my
> data across to the new machine is by sharing its files on my wireless
> network.
>
> On my XP machine, under Tools + Folder Options + View, I have
> selected "Use simple file sharing (recommended)". It was deselected
> before, but is selected now.
>
> Having done the above, I then right-clicked my C:\ drive and selected
> sharing and security. According to help pages such as the one at
> http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't. I do
> have a "Sharing" tab, though, but the help page at
> http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS says: "If no Network tab appears in the window,
> but a Sharing tab appears instead, close this window and ensure the
> Simple File Sharing option was enabled in the earlier step before
> proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing option *is* enabled. And
> restarting Windows makes no difference.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Dave


Connecting a win7 machine to an xp machine is not easy.
It may be easier to buy an external USB housing for
the old drive and use it as a back up for the win7 machine.
However, if you want to try:
Make sure both machines can connect to the router.
Both machines will have to use identical user names
and passwords. Both machines will have to use the
same Workgroup. Do not use Homegroup.
Connect each other first then worry about sharing.
Consider cross posting to the win7 group.
 
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Dave Rado
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      21st Aug 2012
Hi Paul

As you asked me to cross-post this to the Windows 7 group (and I couldn't
find any Microsoft ones, only alt.windows7.general, which I'm therefore
cross-posting to), I've pasted in my original post at the foot of this
message for the sake of those who can't see the original post itself.


"Paul in Houston TX" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:k0uj6b$5fc$(E-Mail Removed)...

| Connecting a win7 machine to an xp machine is not easy.
| It may be easier to buy an external USB housing for
| the old drive and use it as a back up for the win7 machine.
| However, if you want to try:
| Make sure both machines can connect to the router.
| Both machines will have to use identical user names
| and passwords. Both machines will have to use the
| same Workgroup. Do not use Homegroup.
| Connect each other first then worry about sharing.
| Consider cross posting to the win7 group.

They are already both connected the router and are already both using the
same username and password. But the issue is that I can't work out how to
set up the XP drive to be shared by *any* other PC regardless of what
operating system happens to be on the other PC; and until I've got that far,
the OS on the other machine will surely be a red herring.

As I said in my previous post, on the XP machine, according to help pages
such as the one at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, if I right-click my C:\ drive and
select "Sharing and Security," I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't see
one. I do have a "Sharing" tab, but the help page at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS
says: "If no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab appears
instead, close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was
enabled in the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing
option *is* enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.

So I haven't got past first base, in terms of telling the XP machine that I
want to share its drive. Until I've done that, what's on the other machine
isn't really relevant, surely.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

Dave


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Hi

I have an XP laptop that is on its last legs, and a Windows 7 one that I've
bought to replace it. The old one no longer reads external media (such as
CDs or my USB drive), so the only way I can get my data across to the new
machine is by sharing its files on my wireless network.

On my XP machine, under Tools + Folder Options + View, I have selected "Use
simple file sharing (recommended)". It was deselected before, but is
selected now.

Having done the above, I then right-clicked my C:\ drive and selected
sharing and security. According to help pages such as the one at
http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't. I do have a
"Sharing" tab, though, but the help page at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS says: "If
no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab appears instead,
close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was enabled in
the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing option *is*
enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.

What am I doing wrong?

Dave


 
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Paul in Houston TX
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      21st Aug 2012
Dave Rado wrote:
> Hi Paul
>
> As you asked me to cross-post this to the Windows 7 group (and I couldn't
> find any Microsoft ones, only alt.windows7.general, which I'm therefore
> cross-posting to), I've pasted in my original post at the foot of this
> message for the sake of those who can't see the original post itself.
>
>
> "Paul in Houston TX" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:k0uj6b$5fc$(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> | Connecting a win7 machine to an xp machine is not easy.
> | It may be easier to buy an external USB housing for
> | the old drive and use it as a back up for the win7 machine.
> | However, if you want to try:
> | Make sure both machines can connect to the router.
> | Both machines will have to use identical user names
> | and passwords. Both machines will have to use the
> | same Workgroup. Do not use Homegroup.
> | Connect each other first then worry about sharing.
> | Consider cross posting to the win7 group.
>
> They are already both connected the router and are already both using the
> same username and password. But the issue is that I can't work out how to
> set up the XP drive to be shared by *any* other PC regardless of what
> operating system happens to be on the other PC; and until I've got that far,
> the OS on the other machine will surely be a red herring.
>
> As I said in my previous post, on the XP machine, according to help pages
> such as the one at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, if I right-click my C:\ drive and
> select "Sharing and Security," I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't see
> one. I do have a "Sharing" tab, but the help page at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS
> says: "If no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab appears
> instead, close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was
> enabled in the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing
> option *is* enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.
>
> So I haven't got past first base, in terms of telling the XP machine that I
> want to share its drive. Until I've done that, what's on the other machine
> isn't really relevant, surely.
>
> Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
>
> Dave
>
>
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:84963c00-9458-45c1-a879-(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi
>
> I have an XP laptop that is on its last legs, and a Windows 7 one that I've
> bought to replace it. The old one no longer reads external media (such as
> CDs or my USB drive), so the only way I can get my data across to the new
> machine is by sharing its files on my wireless network.
>
> On my XP machine, under Tools + Folder Options + View, I have selected "Use
> simple file sharing (recommended)". It was deselected before, but is
> selected now.
>
> Having done the above, I then right-clicked my C:\ drive and selected
> sharing and security. According to help pages such as the one at
> http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't. I do have a
> "Sharing" tab, though, but the help page at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS says: "If
> no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab appears instead,
> close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was enabled in
> the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing option *is*
> enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Dave


One machine is Win 7, correct?
Do you have other XP machines?
See if this helps:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-fd3d431f3cd5/
 
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glee
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      21st Aug 2012
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:84963c00-9458-45c1-a879-(E-Mail Removed)...
>Hi
>
>I have an XP laptop that is on its last legs, and a Windows 7 one that
>I've bought to
>replace it. The old one no longer reads external media (such as CDs or
>my USB drive), so
>the only way I can get my data across to the new machine is by sharing
>its files on my
>wireless network.
>
>On my XP machine, under Tools + Folder Options + View, I have selected
>"Use simple file
>sharing (recommended)". It was deselected before, but is selected now.
>
>Having done the above, I then right-clicked my C:\ drive and selected
>sharing and
>security. According to help pages such as the one at
>http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, I should see a
>"Network" tab. But I don't. I do have a "Sharing" tab, though, but the
>help page at
>http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS says: "If no Network tab appears in the window,
>but a Sharing tab
>appears instead, close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing
>option was enabled
>in the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing
>option *is* enabled.
>And restarting Windows makes no difference.
>
>What am I doing wrong?
>
>Dave


Why are you trying to share the entire C: drive in the first place?
Most of the files on C: are OS and program files that you can't utilize
anyway. Just share the particular folders on the XP system that you
need to access your data.
--
Glen Ventura
MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009
CompTIA A+

 
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Dave Rado
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      21st Aug 2012
No I only have my XP laptop and the Windows 7 laptop that I bought to
replace it.

The link you gave me was to an article about Windows 7 but I'm still stuck
on how to tell my XP (not my Windows 7) machine that I want the files on it
to be shared. That's what I need help with at this stage.

Dave


"Paul in Houston TX" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| Dave Rado wrote:
| > Hi Paul
| >
| > As you asked me to cross-post this to the Windows 7 group (and I
couldn't
| > find any Microsoft ones, only alt.windows7.general, which I'm therefore
| > cross-posting to), I've pasted in my original post at the foot of this
| > message for the sake of those who can't see the original post itself.
| >
| >
| > "Paul in Houston TX" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:k0uj6b$5fc$(E-Mail Removed)...
| >
| > | Connecting a win7 machine to an xp machine is not easy.
| > | It may be easier to buy an external USB housing for
| > | the old drive and use it as a back up for the win7 machine.
| > | However, if you want to try:
| > | Make sure both machines can connect to the router.
| > | Both machines will have to use identical user names
| > | and passwords. Both machines will have to use the
| > | same Workgroup. Do not use Homegroup.
| > | Connect each other first then worry about sharing.
| > | Consider cross posting to the win7 group.
| >
| > They are already both connected the router and are already both using
the
| > same username and password. But the issue is that I can't work out how
to
| > set up the XP drive to be shared by *any* other PC regardless of what
| > operating system happens to be on the other PC; and until I've got that
far,
| > the OS on the other machine will surely be a red herring.
| >
| > As I said in my previous post, on the XP machine, according to help
pages
| > such as the one at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, if I right-click my C:\ drive
and
| > select "Sharing and Security," I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't
see
| > one. I do have a "Sharing" tab, but the help page at
http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS
| > says: "If no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab
appears
| > instead, close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was
| > enabled in the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File
Sharing
| > option *is* enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.
| >
| > So I haven't got past first base, in terms of telling the XP machine
that I
| > want to share its drive. Until I've done that, what's on the other
machine
| > isn't really relevant, surely.
| >
| > Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
| >
| > Dave
| >
| >
| > <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| > news:84963c00-9458-45c1-a879-(E-Mail Removed)...
| > Hi
| >
| > I have an XP laptop that is on its last legs, and a Windows 7 one that
I've
| > bought to replace it. The old one no longer reads external media (such
as
| > CDs or my USB drive), so the only way I can get my data across to the
new
| > machine is by sharing its files on my wireless network.
| >
| > On my XP machine, under Tools + Folder Options + View, I have selected
"Use
| > simple file sharing (recommended)". It was deselected before, but is
| > selected now.
| >
| > Having done the above, I then right-clicked my C:\ drive and selected
| > sharing and security. According to help pages such as the one at
| > http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't. I do
have a
| > "Sharing" tab, though, but the help page at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS says:
"If
| > no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab appears instead,
| > close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was enabled
in
| > the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing option
*is*
| > enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.
| >
| > What am I doing wrong?
| >
| > Dave
|
| One machine is Win 7, correct?
| Do you have other XP machines?
| See if this helps:
|
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/...-fd3d431f3cd5/


 
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"glee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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| <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
| news:84963c00-9458-45c1-a879-(E-Mail Removed)...
|
| Why are you trying to share the entire C: drive in the first place?
| Most of the files on C: are OS and program files that you can't utilize
| anyway.

Because there are a large number of separate folders I would otherwise have
to mark as shared - but in any case, I can't work out how to share *any*
folder on my XP machine. If I right-click on *any* folder on the XP machine,
I get the same problem I described in my original post. I don't see a
"network" tab, only a "sharing" tab.

Just share the particular folders on the XP system that you
| need to access your data.

There are around 50 of those so it would be a right royal pain to do that,
but I would be willing to resort to that workaround if I could only find out
how to get around the problem that I can't work out how to mark *any* folder
on the XP machine as shared, because if I right-click on *any* folder on the
XP machine, I get the same problem I described in my original post. I don't
see a "network" tab, only a "sharing" tab.


 
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      21st Aug 2012
"Dave Rado" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> snip
> They are already both connected the router and are already both using
> the
> same username and password. But the issue is that I can't work out how
> to
> set up the XP drive to be shared by *any* other PC regardless of what
> operating system happens to be on the other PC; and until I've got
> that far,
> the OS on the other machine will surely be a red herring.
>
> As I said in my previous post, on the XP machine, according to help
> pages
> such as the one at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, if I right-click my C:\ drive
> and
> select "Sharing and Security," I should see a "Network" tab. But I
> don't see
> one. I do have a "Sharing" tab, but the help page at
> http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS
> says: "If no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab
> appears
> instead, close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option
> was
> enabled in the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File
> Sharing
> option *is* enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.
>
> So I haven't got past first base, in terms of telling the XP machine
> that I
> want to share its drive. Until I've done that, what's on the other
> machine
> isn't really relevant, surely.
> snip



The XP computer isn't part of a domain, is it? If it is, you cannot
enable Simple File Sharing even if you check the box for it.
If it is not in a domain (and a home computer should not be), make sure
both computers are in the same-named Workgroup.

Re: the About.com articles, I don't know what they are talking About,
and I'm not sure they do either.... I've seen so much wrong info on that
site that I now usually disregard them as useless.

On my XP Pro machine here, if I enable Simple File Sharing, there is NO
Network tab in the drive's Sharing and Security properties. There is a
Sharing tab. On the Sharing tab window, all it shows is: "To protect
you computer from unauthorized access, sharing the root of a drive is
not recommended." Below that is a clickable link that says: "If you
understand the risk and still want to share the root of the drive, click
here."

That is what you should see. Click where it says to, then set up
sharing the root. If you don't see that, then describe what you do see
on the Sharing tab when Simple File Sharing is enabled.
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      21st Aug 2012
"Dave Rado" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
> "glee" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:k0va0l$5e8$(E-Mail Removed)...
> | <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> | news:84963c00-9458-45c1-a879-(E-Mail Removed)...
> |
> | Why are you trying to share the entire C: drive in the first place?
> | Most of the files on C: are OS and program files that you can't
> utilize
> | anyway.
>
> Because there are a large number of separate folders I would otherwise
> have
> to mark as shared - but in any case, I can't work out how to share
> *any*
> folder on my XP machine. If I right-click on *any* folder on the XP
> machine,
> I get the same problem I described in my original post. I don't see a
> "network" tab, only a "sharing" tab.
>
> Just share the particular folders on the XP system that you
> | need to access your data.
>
> There are around 50 of those so it would be a right royal pain to do
> that,
> but I would be willing to resort to that workaround if I could only
> find out
> how to get around the problem that I can't work out how to mark *any*
> folder
> on the XP machine as shared, because if I right-click on *any* folder
> on the
> XP machine, I get the same problem I described in my original post. I
> don't
> see a "network" tab, only a "sharing" tab.


Apparently you have not read my other post to you here.
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      21st Aug 2012
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:05:33 -0700 (PDT), (E-Mail Removed) wrote:

>I have an XP laptop that is on its last legs, and a Windows 7 one that I've bought to replace it. The old one no longer reads external media (such as CDs or my USB drive), so the only way I can get my data across to the new machine is by sharing its files on my wireless network.
>
>On my XP machine, under Tools + Folder Options + View, I have selected "Use simple file sharing (recommended)". It was deselected before, but is selected now.
>
>Having done the above, I then right-clicked my C:\ drive and selected sharing and security. According to help pages such as the one at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS, I should see a "Network" tab. But I don't. I do have a "Sharing" tab, though, but the help page at http://bit.ly/SfZ3RS says: "If no Network tab appears in the window, but a Sharing tab appears instead, close this window and ensure the Simple File Sharing option was enabled in the earlier step before proceeding." But the Simple File Sharing option *is* enabled. And restarting Windows makes no difference.
>
>What am I doing wrong?


First, the obfuscated URL's above are actually here:
<http://compnetworking.about.com/od/windowsxpnetworking/ht/sharewinxpfiles.htm>
I'm not sure why you felt the need to hide them.

Looking at the steps, I see some extraneous directions and some
incorrect directions, so here's my attempt to clean up their mess.

1.Ensure Windows XP Simple File Sharing is enabled.

2.Open Windows Explorer (or My Computer). Navigate to the file, folder
or drive folder to be shared, and right-click on it.

3.From the right-click menu, choose "Sharing and Security...". A new
dialog window appears.

4.Click the Share This Folder option in the dialog window to enable
sharing of this resource. This allows all other computers on the local
network to access file(s) but not modify them. To grant others
permission to modify these files, click the "Allow Network Users to
Change My Files" checkbox to enable this option.

5.Click Apply or OK to save these settings.

Hint: you're trying to share your XP resources, and for some reason
you're allowing yourself to be stumped by the presence of a Sharing
tab. "Share", "Sharing", see a connection?

Finally, please don't seek technical advice on sites like about.com or
ehow.com, to name two examples. When I need some late night humor,
those are some of the places I go to get a good laugh.

 
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