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speedy_mike
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      20th Oct 2007
I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition of
the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition. Would
this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily reload the
operating system if needed? How would you successfully separate these
folders/files with a up and running system?

Thanks for information.

Mike


 
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Jerry
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      20th Oct 2007
Many programs allow you to select a Custom install during their initial
install - this allows you to select where you would like it to go. For
example, if you don't opt for Custom most will simply go to \Program
Files\Program but, using the Custom option you can select <drive>\program
and it will still work as expected.

"speedy_mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition
> of the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition.
> Would this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily
> reload the operating system if needed? How would you successfully
> separate these folders/files with a up and running system?
>
> Thanks for information.
>
> Mike
>



 
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Don J
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      20th Oct 2007
I put my Operating system on Drive D: and all programs and files on Drive
C:. It has advantages when you have to reinstall the operating system, in
that you don't wipe out all your data.

I also place all my "Program Files" on Drive C. I have three installatioins
of Windows XP, on Drives D:, E: and F:. I place all copies of "Program
File" in the same location on Drive C:. This saves "Mucho" space. The
information kept in "Progrm Files" is identical in all installations. I
have been doing it for over a year. I use my system for over 8 hours a day,
and have never had a problem. In one case, "xReminder Pro", the data files
are kept in "Program Files", which makes them automatially available in all
locations.

Don J

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"speedy_mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition
> of the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition.
> Would this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily
> reload the operating system if needed? How would you successfully
> separate these folders/files with a up and running system?
>
> Thanks for information.
>
> Mike
>



 
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      20th Oct 2007
installing programs
to another partition
doesn't improve the
performance of the
system.

the benefit resulting
by installing programs to
another partition is by way
of disk space.

unfortunately, if the
o.s. is reinstalled because
of a crash, then the programs
will have to be reinstalled
regardless if the programs were
installed on the main partition
or on another.

this is because the registry
will have to be rebuilt and
the program system files
will need to be re-integrated
into the newly installed o.s.

that is why having a backup
or image of the o.s. is helpful
because the registry and the
program system files will be
intact and ready to restore.

using a freeware called
"drive image xml" in addition
to "barts pe" and with a "pluggin for
drive image xml" will help
in the event of a failure.

in the event the o.s. does become
corrupted, instead of reinstalling the o.s.
or using a backup or image to restore it,
it would be better to initally use either the
"system restore" feature or use the windows
cd and perform a "repair installation", ie,
repair windows. these two options will
help avoid reinstalling the third party
software over again.

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"speedy_mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition of
> the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition. Would
> this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily reload the
> operating system if needed? How would you successfully separate these
> folders/files with a up and running system?
>
> Thanks for information.
>
> Mike
>


 
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Don J
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      21st Oct 2007
Yes, the programs do have to be reinstalled after a system crash, but doing
so doesn't restore any personal data that one has input. That is why I
store all data files on a differeent partition from the windows
installation. I first started storing stuff on a different partition before
I had a decent backup file. Now that I do it is still a convenient way of
dealing with the fact that there is a potential for data loss between
backups. Although I routinely backap my data partition I have rarely had to
replace it when I do rewinstall Windows..

Don
J

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> installing programs
> to another partition
> doesn't improve the
> performance of the
> system.
>
> the benefit resulting
> by installing programs to
> another partition is by way
> of disk space.
>
> unfortunately, if the
> o.s. is reinstalled because
> of a crash, then the programs
> will have to be reinstalled
> regardless if the programs were
> installed on the main partition
> or on another.
>
> this is because the registry
> will have to be rebuilt and
> the program system files
> will need to be re-integrated
> into the newly installed o.s.
>
> that is why having a backup
> or image of the o.s. is helpful
> because the registry and the
> program system files will be
> intact and ready to restore.
>
> using a freeware called
> "drive image xml" in addition
> to "barts pe" and with a "pluggin for
> drive image xml" will help
> in the event of a failure.
>
> in the event the o.s. does become
> corrupted, instead of reinstalling the o.s.
> or using a backup or image to restore it,
> it would be better to initally use either the
> "system restore" feature or use the windows
> cd and perform a "repair installation", ie,
> repair windows. these two options will
> help avoid reinstalling the third party
> software over again.
>
> --
>
> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

>
>
> .
>
>
> "speedy_mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:471a6c17$0$512$(E-Mail Removed)...
>> I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition
>> of the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition.
>> Would this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily
>> reload the operating system if needed? How would you successfully
>> separate these folders/files with a up and running system?
>>
>> Thanks for information.
>>
>> Mike
>>

>



 
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      21st Oct 2007
yeh,

i think many wise people
understand the value of
storing personal data off
the operating system
partition.

the trick is to remember
to backup up that data
in a timely manner.


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"Don J" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Yes, the programs do have to be reinstalled after a system crash, but doing so
> doesn't restore any personal data that one has input. That is why I store all
> data files on a differeent partition from the windows installation. I first
> started storing stuff on a different partition before I had a decent backup
> file. Now that I do it is still a convenient way of dealing with the fact
> that there is a potential for data loss between backups. Although I routinely
> backap my data partition I have rarely had to replace it when I do rewinstall
> Windows..
>
> Don J
>
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> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> installing programs
>> to another partition
>> doesn't improve the
>> performance of the
>> system.
>>
>> the benefit resulting
>> by installing programs to
>> another partition is by way
>> of disk space.
>>
>> unfortunately, if the
>> o.s. is reinstalled because
>> of a crash, then the programs
>> will have to be reinstalled
>> regardless if the programs were
>> installed on the main partition
>> or on another.
>>
>> this is because the registry
>> will have to be rebuilt and
>> the program system files
>> will need to be re-integrated
>> into the newly installed o.s.
>>
>> that is why having a backup
>> or image of the o.s. is helpful
>> because the registry and the
>> program system files will be
>> intact and ready to restore.
>>
>> using a freeware called
>> "drive image xml" in addition
>> to "barts pe" and with a "pluggin for
>> drive image xml" will help
>> in the event of a failure.
>>
>> in the event the o.s. does become
>> corrupted, instead of reinstalling the o.s.
>> or using a backup or image to restore it,
>> it would be better to initally use either the
>> "system restore" feature or use the windows
>> cd and perform a "repair installation", ie,
>> repair windows. these two options will
>> help avoid reinstalling the third party
>> software over again.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

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>>
>> .
>>
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>> "speedy_mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:471a6c17$0$512$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>> I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition of
>>> the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition. Would
>>> this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily reload the
>>> operating system if needed? How would you successfully separate these
>>> folders/files with a up and running system?
>>>
>>> Thanks for information.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>

>>

>
>


 
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      21st Oct 2007
Hi,

......i think many wise people understand the value of storing personal
data off the operating system partition.

Storing personal data on a different partition on the same hard drive
isn't all that good an idea. When your hard drive dies everything you
have will be gone.

It's none too common for a partition go bad, so where's the reasoning of
your data on a seperate partition?


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      21st Oct 2007
speedy_mike wrote:
> I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition of
> the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition. Would
> this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily reload the
> operating system if needed? How would you successfully separate these
> folders/files with a up and running system?
>
> Thanks for information.
>
> Mike
>
>



Placing data files on a partition or physical hard drive separate
from the operating system and applications can greatly simplify system
repairs/recoveries and data back-up.

There's very little point, however, in having a separate partition
for just applications. Should you ever have to reinstall the OS, you'll
still also have to reinstall each and every application anyway, in order
to recreate the hundreds (possibly thousands) of registry entries and to
replace the dozens (possibly hundreds) of essential system files back
into the appropriate Windows folders and sub-folders.



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      22nd Oct 2007
Thanks, gentlemen. I appreciate your information. It sure makes sense.

Mike


"speedy_mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> I've recently read of folks putting the operating system on one partition
> of the system disk and all other programs and data on another partition.
> Would this really be a cleaner way to run the system? Could you easily
> reload the operating system if needed? How would you successfully
> separate these folders/files with a up and running system?
>
> Thanks for information.
>
> Mike
>



 
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