I did a poor job of quoting. I was referring to Paul's mention of
"a modem with full datapump" as what was commonly called a
"controller-based modem".

On 17/03/2012 10:22 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 3/16/2012 12:11 PM PT, Don Phillipson typed:
>
>> "Des"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:307ab0bc-41a7-4f29-890c-(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> Can I still get the internal modem I used to have. It would have to be
>>> the AGP type and work with windows 7
>>
>> Any 56kbs (telephone) modem will do, providing your
>> motherboard will accept it and there are Win7 drivers for it.
>
> Even older dial-up modems like my external serial USR Sportster 33.6k
> modem would do! Yes, I still have it and works! It is mainly as a backup
> when my cable Internet service goes down and that's very rare.
>
I tossed a few out earlier this year. Some were internal PCI an others
were external serial. I have 2 laptops both with internal modems. I
figured these would do if ever I felt the need to fax someone. So far, I
have managed quite well with email.

<snip>

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Any FREE web-based fax service in UK?

Anyway, you need a 56k USB modem to use Fax & Scan Service over PSTN
network.

> Hi I live in the UK and woundered if I could send a fax using my PC.
> Years ago (about 1990) I had WinFax which allowed me to do this. I
> could receive them if my PC was on also. I simply typed up somthing in
> MS Word and faxed it.
> Now I have Windows 7, an AOL wireless/wired router. I tried
> All Programs -> Windows Fax and scanner
>
> But it does not recognise this. I am in the UK so maybe I need UK help
> here?


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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 07:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Des <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>Hi I live in the UK and woundered if I could send a fax using my PC.
>Years ago (about 1990) I had WinFax which allowed me to do this. I
>could receive them if my PC was on also. I simply typed up somthing in
>MS Word and faxed it.
>
>Now I have Windows 7, an AOL wireless/wired router. I tried
>All Programs -> Windows Fax and scanner
>
>But it does not recognise this. I am in the UK so maybe I need UK help
>here?

In an effort to save the planet, the phone company could allow your
phone number to automatically detect a fax and re route it to an email
address assigned to your account.

I can't believe we still use Fax machines.

Metspitzer wrote:

>
> In an effort to save the planet, the phone company could allow your
> phone number to automatically detect a fax and re route it to an email
> address assigned to your account.
>
> I can't believe we still use Fax machines.

When is the last time you ran into the phone
company providing a service for free ?

That's why there are third-party companies for faxing,
if you don't want to run your own fax machine. They can
convert from one format to another, for you. If you
want to receive them as emails, a third-party
company can do that for you.

If a phone company did that, their rates wouldn't be competitive.
And if they can't make money on it, they're not interested.

Paul

On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 12:53:19 -0400, Paul <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Metspitzer wrote:
>
>>
>> In an effort to save the planet, the phone company could allow your
>> phone number to automatically detect a fax and re route it to an email
>> address assigned to your account.
>>
>> I can't believe we still use Fax machines.
>
>When is the last time you ran into the phone
>company providing a service for free ?
>
>That's why there are third-party companies for faxing,
>if you don't want to run your own fax machine. They can
>convert from one format to another, for you. If you
>want to receive them as emails, a third-party
>company can do that for you.
>
>If a phone company did that, their rates wouldn't be competitive.
>And if they can't make money on it, they're not interested.
>
> Paul

I have a phone bill that suggests I use paperless billing. I would
love to use paperless billing if it were not for the fact that
costumers are required to register for paperless only billing.

That is so unnecessary. Just send me an email with how much I owe and
debit it from my account. I don't work for the CIA. There is no
reason I need to have to log into a web site each month when I already
have all my bills on auto pay.

Managemyaccount is nothing I care to do. I would, however, agree to
manage my own account if ATT would give me a fax number to use.
Otherwise keep mailing me a bill that I look at and throw in the
trash.

http://www.att.com/gen/general?pid=10839

Metspitzer <kilowatt charter.net> wrote:

> Paul <nospam needed.com> wrote:
>> Metspitzer wrote:

>>> In an effort to save the planet, the phone company could allow
>>> your phone number to automatically detect a fax and re route
>>> it to an email address assigned to your account.
>>>
>>> I can't believe we still use Fax machines.
>>
>>When is the last time you ran into the phone company providing a
>>service for free ?
>>
>>That's why there are third-party companies for faxing, if you
>>don't want to run your own fax machine. They can convert from
>>one format to another, for you. If you want to receive them as
>>emails, a third-party company can do that for you.
>>
>>If a phone company did that, their rates wouldn't be
>>competitive. And if they can't make money on it, they're not
>>interested.

> I have a phone bill that suggests I use paperless billing. I
> would love to use paperless billing if it were not for the fact
> that costumers are required to register for paperless only
> billing.
>
> That is so unnecessary. Just send me an email with how much I
> owe and debit it from my account. I don't work for the CIA.
> There is no reason I need to have to log into a web site each
> month when I already have all my bills on auto pay.

It might be unnecessary, but it's just a username and password.
Like thousands of other websites.

Are you trying to say that you have a phobia against logging on to
websites?

"Ignore your feelings, Luke..."

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>
> Managemyaccount is nothing I care to do. I would, however,
> agree to manage my own account if ATT would give me a fax number
> to use. Otherwise keep mailing me a bill that I look at and
> throw in the trash.
>
> http://www.att.com/gen/general?pid=10839
>

In article <_(E-Mail Removed)>, Ant <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>On 3/16/2012 4:38 PM PT, Rene Lamontagne typed:
>
>>
>>
>> "John Doe" wrote in message
>> news:4f63cbc2$0$9813$c3e8da3$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>> Paul <nospam needed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 3) Traditional PCI modem card (winmodem or modem with full
>>> datapump) with a couple RJ-11 connectors on the faceplate. The
>>> winmodem relies on software DSP done by your CPU, to convert
>>> between "tones" and data.
>>
>> FWIW...
>> We laymen call it a "controller-based" modem
>>
>>
>> Funny, I've Always called them "Winmodems"
>> .
>
>Or crap modems. I prefer external serial modems with pretty lights and
>audio speaker control! Oh and good old fashion terminal client with
>command line: ATZ, ATH0, ATM0, ATDT1234567890, etc. Then, seeing CONNECT
>26400, NO CARRIER, BUSY, etc. Yes, I am old.


Old, but in good company!!!!!