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      10th Jul 2004
Hello,

I used to have a Dell system which I had setup as a dual-boot win98se (for the kids)and 2000 (for me). Worked great for many years.

I now have bought a new hp pavilion. It comes pre-installed with xp home and a recovery partition (d). It also allows creation of a recovery dvd.

I would like to continue to work in dual, separated environments for the kids and myself, by installing a second copy of xp on a separate partition, and selecting at boot time which one to activate. However, the HP xp recovery software does not allow me to select on which partition to install.

How do I manage to setup, and recover, a dual xp sytem ? Do I require a third-party boot manager ? If so, which one would you recommend ? Should I trash the HP setup and work from standard XP installation CDs (assuming these would work wiht my product key)?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Victor
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      10th Jul 2004
The HP Recovery CD does not permit a custom dual-boot configuration.
In order to create a dual-boot, you'll need to purchase a conventional
version of Windows XP. The HP Product Key will not work with a
conventional Microsoft Windows XP installation CD.

The only way you can create, delete, resize or merge existing partitions,
and not harm your existing Windows installation, is to purchase and use
a third-party partitioning program such as Partition Magic 8.
http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/

The more sensible alternative is to purchase and install a second hard
drive (slave), and install your desired version of Windows on it.
However, you'll still need to purchase a conventional version of
Microsoft Windows XP to accomplish this.

How do I install Windows 98/Me after I've installed XP?
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

How do I install Windows 2000 after I've installed Windows XP?
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_2k.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Doug Knox]

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Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/

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"Victor" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message:
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| Hello,
|
| I used to have a Dell system which I had setup as a dual-boot win98se (for the kids)and 2000 (for me).
Worked great for many years.
|
| I now have bought a new hp pavilion. It comes pre-installed with xp home and a recovery partition (d). It
also allows creation of a recovery dvd.
|
| I would like to continue to work in dual, separated environments for the kids and myself, by installing a
second copy of xp on a separate partition, and selecting at boot time which one to activate. However, the HP
xp recovery software does not allow me to select on which partition to install.
|
| How do I manage to setup, and recover, a dual xp sytem ? Do I require a third-party boot manager ? If so,
which one would you recommend ? Should I trash the HP setup and work from standard XP installation CDs
(assuming these would work wiht my product key)?
|
| Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
|
| Thanks in advance,
| Victor
| (E-Mail Removed)

 
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      10th Jul 2004
Thank you Carey. Helpful.
I agree your proposed solution (additonal disk plus xp license) would be very effective, but also expensive.
I have seen references to boot managers (fe xosl) which would 'hide' partitions. I had hoped these might be able to fool the hp recovery system to perform a second install without touching the original one. Wishful thinking ?
Greetings from Belgium and have a nice weekend,
Victor

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> The HP Recovery CD does not permit a custom dual-boot configuration.
> In order to create a dual-boot, you'll need to purchase a conventional
> version of Windows XP. The HP Product Key will not work with a
> conventional Microsoft Windows XP installation CD.
>
> The only way you can create, delete, resize or merge existing partitions,
> and not harm your existing Windows installation, is to purchase and use
> a third-party partitioning program such as Partition Magic 8.
> http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/
>
> The more sensible alternative is to purchase and install a second hard
> drive (slave), and install your desired version of Windows on it.
> However, you'll still need to purchase a conventional version of
> Microsoft Windows XP to accomplish this.
>
> How do I install Windows 98/Me after I've installed XP?
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm
>
> How do I install Windows 2000 after I've installed Windows XP?
> http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_2k.htm
>
> [Courtesy of MS-MVP Doug Knox]
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> Be Smart! Protect your PC!
> http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Victor" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message:
> news:4FF10BEE-E07F-47C8-986B-(E-Mail Removed)...
>
> | Hello,
> |
> | I used to have a Dell system which I had setup as a dual-boot win98se (for the kids)and 2000 (for me).
> Worked great for many years.
> |
> | I now have bought a new hp pavilion. It comes pre-installed with xp home and a recovery partition (d). It
> also allows creation of a recovery dvd.
> |
> | I would like to continue to work in dual, separated environments for the kids and myself, by installing a
> second copy of xp on a separate partition, and selecting at boot time which one to activate. However, the HP
> xp recovery software does not allow me to select on which partition to install.
> |
> | How do I manage to setup, and recover, a dual xp sytem ? Do I require a third-party boot manager ? If so,
> which one would you recommend ? Should I trash the HP setup and work from standard XP installation CDs
> (assuming these would work wiht my product key)?
> |
> | Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
> |
> | Thanks in advance,
> | Victor
> | (E-Mail Removed)
>
>

 
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      11th Jul 2004
Victor wrote:
> Thank you Carey. Helpful.
> I agree your proposed solution (additonal disk plus xp license) would
> be very effective, but also expensive.
> I have seen references to boot managers (fe xosl) which would 'hide'
> partitions. I had hoped these might be able to fool the hp recovery
> system to perform a second install without touching the original one.
> Wishful thinking ?


Yep, I'm afraid so. Carey's solution is the only viable one.



 
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      11th Jul 2004
Don't raise the bridge, lower the river.

One of the MAIN BENEFITS of XP is the ability to create 'users' and assign access rights to them, one by one.

As such you can be an administrator, with full management right: you can also have your unique desktop, applications, even email settings.

Each and every other user can be assigned lesser rights: they may neot even get access to certain applications.

One thing for sure, with a username and password, each 'user' logs on to XP and sees the PC in their own individual way. The desktop, background, any shortcuts even their email.

Also: because you have a 'recovery disk' version of XP: and as such cannot enjoy all the benefits of a full retail version: make sure that you get yourself Nortons Ghost and make an Image of your C Drive onto a spare Hard Drive. Use this imaged file for when you need to reinstall Windows. Use Ghost to 'backup' regularly and if you ever have a problem, it will take less than an hour to have your PC up and running 'as it is right now' or 'as at last backup'.

This is a whole lot less time than to reinstall Xp ONLY, forget about personalisation, setting up internet access and email blah, blah etc.


"Victor" wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I used to have a Dell system which I had setup as a dual-boot win98se (for the kids)and 2000 (for me). Worked great for many years.
>
> I now have bought a new hp pavilion. It comes pre-installed with xp home and a recovery partition (d). It also allows creation of a recovery dvd.
>
> I would like to continue to work in dual, separated environments for the kids and myself, by installing a second copy of xp on a separate partition, and selecting at boot time which one to activate. However, the HP xp recovery software does not allow me to select on which partition to install.
>
> How do I manage to setup, and recover, a dual xp sytem ? Do I require a third-party boot manager ? If so, which one would you recommend ? Should I trash the HP setup and work from standard XP installation CDs (assuming these would work wiht my product key)?
>
> Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Victor
> (E-Mail Removed)

 
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