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Patricia
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      22nd Oct 2004
Can Anyone tell me if Powerpoint 3 has the ability to save a slide show
with music for a windows screen saver?




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      22nd Oct 2004
No, sorry.

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> Can Anyone tell me if Powerpoint 3 has the ability to save a slide show
> with music for a windows screen saver?
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Steve Rindsberg
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      23rd Oct 2004
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Patricia wrote:
> Can Anyone tell me if Powerpoint 3 has the ability to save a slide show
> with music for a windows screen saver?


I wouldn't even bet on PowerPoint 3 being able to *run* on a modern computer.
It's quite old ... early Windows 3.0 era, in fact.

If you meant 2003, then have a look here:

Make a screensaver from PowerPoint
http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00048.htm

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Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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villem teder
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      23rd Oct 2004
I don't think I've tried PPT3 itself, but the PPT3 viewer runs under
WIN98SE. On some machines there might be significant delays between
pushing a key and advancing to the next slide. We have one machine
that does work okay and we still use the PPT3 viewer sometimes! Trying
the PPT3viewer under WIN2K resulted in very long delays for the next
slide. I can't remember now if we were able to run it at all under
WINXP.

Villem Teder

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:13:04 EDT, Steve Rindsberg
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Patricia wrote:
>> Can Anyone tell me if Powerpoint 3 has the ability to save a slide show
>> with music for a windows screen saver?

>
>I wouldn't even bet on PowerPoint 3 being able to *run* on a modern computer.
>It's quite old ... early Windows 3.0 era, in fact.
>
>If you meant 2003, then have a look here:
>
>Make a screensaver from PowerPoint
>http://www.rdpslides.com/pptfaq/FAQ00048.htm
>
>-----------------------------------------
>Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>PPTools: www.pptools.com
>================================================
>


 
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Steve Rindsberg
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      24th Oct 2004
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
> I don't think I've tried PPT3 itself, but the PPT3 viewer runs under
> WIN98SE. On some machines there might be significant delays between
> pushing a key and advancing to the next slide. We have one machine
> that does work okay and we still use the PPT3 viewer sometimes! Trying
> the PPT3viewer under WIN2K resulted in very long delays for the next
> slide. I can't remember now if we were able to run it at all under
> WINXP.


Interesting. I don't know where I'd even *find* the old viewer at this point.
I'm sure the floppies are long gone.

Out of curiosity, is there a reason why it's still useful?



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PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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villem teder
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      25th Oct 2004
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:46:24 EDT, Steve Rindsberg
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
>> I don't think I've tried PPT3 itself, but the PPT3 viewer runs under
>> WIN98SE. On some machines there might be significant delays between
>> pushing a key and advancing to the next slide. We have one machine
>> that does work okay and we still use the PPT3 viewer sometimes! Trying
>> the PPT3viewer under WIN2K resulted in very long delays for the next
>> slide. I can't remember now if we were able to run it at all under
>> WINXP.

>
>Interesting. I don't know where I'd even *find* the old viewer at this point.
>I'm sure the floppies are long gone.
>

You'd have to get a copy from somebody who still has one. MS used have
it available, but it disappeared when they stopped supporting software
from that era.

>Out of curiosity, is there a reason why it's still useful?
>
>

It's main use is in the fade-through-black transition, for doing opera
surtitles. It had the feature of having a real difference between the
various speeds, with the slow being a real slow, compared to the
barely noticeable differences with more current versions. I know that
with XP and newer, there is the option of the custom animations, but
these require much more work to have one slide transition to the next
with only one key press, compared to applying a transition effect.
It is only within the last few months that I have seen the
fade-through-black transition actually work smoothly under PPT2003,
the main difference appearing to be CPU horsepower.
Also, the look of the fades don't look "linear" anymore, compared to
with the PPT3 viewer. If the video card software has gamma correction,
then this could be adjusted.
There are a few custom written systems for surtitles that I'm in the
process of looking at, but after using PPT for 10 years, it might take
a little while to get used to them.

And also, I don't think that PPT3 would run under WIN98SE, as PPT4
won't run without problems. To use the PPT3 viewer, I save the current
file from PPT2K as a PPT4 version, and then use PPT4 on WIN3.1
computer to convert it to PPT3 for the viewer. More work but the
results are worth it.

Villem Teder



>
>-----------------------------------------
>Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>PPTools: www.pptools.com
>================================================
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Steve Rindsberg
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      25th Oct 2004

Thanks for filling in the blanks, Villem.

Who'd have thought there'd still be a use for a piece of software this old?
Fascinating!

In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:46:24 EDT, Steve Rindsberg
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> >In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
> >> I don't think I've tried PPT3 itself, but the PPT3 viewer runs under
> >> WIN98SE. On some machines there might be significant delays between
> >> pushing a key and advancing to the next slide. We have one machine
> >> that does work okay and we still use the PPT3 viewer sometimes! Trying
> >> the PPT3viewer under WIN2K resulted in very long delays for the next
> >> slide. I can't remember now if we were able to run it at all under
> >> WINXP.

> >
> >Interesting. I don't know where I'd even *find* the old viewer at this point.
> >I'm sure the floppies are long gone.
> >

> You'd have to get a copy from somebody who still has one. MS used have
> it available, but it disappeared when they stopped supporting software
> from that era.
>
> >Out of curiosity, is there a reason why it's still useful?
> >
> >

> It's main use is in the fade-through-black transition, for doing opera
> surtitles. It had the feature of having a real difference between the
> various speeds, with the slow being a real slow, compared to the
> barely noticeable differences with more current versions. I know that
> with XP and newer, there is the option of the custom animations, but
> these require much more work to have one slide transition to the next
> with only one key press, compared to applying a transition effect.
> It is only within the last few months that I have seen the
> fade-through-black transition actually work smoothly under PPT2003,
> the main difference appearing to be CPU horsepower.
> Also, the look of the fades don't look "linear" anymore, compared to
> with the PPT3 viewer. If the video card software has gamma correction,
> then this could be adjusted.
> There are a few custom written systems for surtitles that I'm in the
> process of looking at, but after using PPT for 10 years, it might take
> a little while to get used to them.
>
> And also, I don't think that PPT3 would run under WIN98SE, as PPT4
> won't run without problems. To use the PPT3 viewer, I save the current
> file from PPT2K as a PPT4 version, and then use PPT4 on WIN3.1
> computer to convert it to PPT3 for the viewer. More work but the
> results are worth it.
>
> Villem Teder
>
> >
> >-----------------------------------------
> >Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> >PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> >PPTools: www.pptools.com
> >================================================
> >

>


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PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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villem teder
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      26th Oct 2004
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:05:25 EDT, Steve Rindsberg
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>
>Thanks for filling in the blanks, Villem.
>
>Who'd have thought there'd still be a use for a piece of software this old?
>Fascinating!
>


"This software" is barely middle-aged. For "old software" how about
the stuff that NASA is still using for some of the probes, or how
about that stuff that is still being used to keep aircraft from
playing bumper cars in the sky?

I still have use for an audio analyzer system that runs on a
'386SX/co-pro upgrade stuffed into the case of a '286 laptop. Needs a
full length ISA slot and a maximum bus speed of 8 Mhz.

And speaking of the PPT3 viewer, there is one more beef I've forgotten
about.....using the "B" key to take the screen to black, and then
continuing. In PPT3, after taking the screen black with the "B" key,
if you press a key to continue to the next slide, or press a slide
number to jump to, followed by "enter", you go to the next slide with
whatever transition has been programmed. However, starting with I
think version 95 or possibly 97, if you press a key to continue or
select a slide to jump to, the slide you took to black comes back to
the screen and only then do you go on to the next slide you wanted.
Furthermore, as I understand in PPTXP, after the screen is taken to
black, you have to pressfor the next slide to get the previous slide
back on screen and then you have to press again to acyually go on to
the next slide!. I haven't had a chance to see what "improvements"
have been foisted on PPT2003.

(And, yes, I'm sure I've voiced my opinions on these topics to MSWISH
at least once.)

Villem Teder

while we are getting away from the topic of screensavers, is there a
society for creative computing anachronism?



>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:46:24 EDT, Steve Rindsberg
>> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
>> >> I don't think I've tried PPT3 itself, but the PPT3 viewer runs under
>> >> WIN98SE. On some machines there might be significant delays between
>> >> pushing a key and advancing to the next slide. We have one machine
>> >> that does work okay and we still use the PPT3 viewer sometimes! Trying
>> >> the PPT3viewer under WIN2K resulted in very long delays for the next
>> >> slide. I can't remember now if we were able to run it at all under
>> >> WINXP.
>> >
>> >Interesting. I don't know where I'd even *find* the old viewer at this point.
>> >I'm sure the floppies are long gone.
>> >

>> You'd have to get a copy from somebody who still has one. MS used have
>> it available, but it disappeared when they stopped supporting software
>> from that era.
>>
>> >Out of curiosity, is there a reason why it's still useful?
>> >
>> >

>> It's main use is in the fade-through-black transition, for doing opera
>> surtitles. It had the feature of having a real difference between the
>> various speeds, with the slow being a real slow, compared to the
>> barely noticeable differences with more current versions. I know that
>> with XP and newer, there is the option of the custom animations, but
>> these require much more work to have one slide transition to the next
>> with only one key press, compared to applying a transition effect.
>> It is only within the last few months that I have seen the
>> fade-through-black transition actually work smoothly under PPT2003,
>> the main difference appearing to be CPU horsepower.
>> Also, the look of the fades don't look "linear" anymore, compared to
>> with the PPT3 viewer. If the video card software has gamma correction,
>> then this could be adjusted.
>> There are a few custom written systems for surtitles that I'm in the
>> process of looking at, but after using PPT for 10 years, it might take
>> a little while to get used to them.
>>
>> And also, I don't think that PPT3 would run under WIN98SE, as PPT4
>> won't run without problems. To use the PPT3 viewer, I save the current
>> file from PPT2K as a PPT4 version, and then use PPT4 on WIN3.1
>> computer to convert it to PPT3 for the viewer. More work but the
>> results are worth it.
>>
>> Villem Teder
>>
>> >
>> >-----------------------------------------
>> >Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>> >PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>> >PPTools: www.pptools.com
>> >================================================
>> >

>>

>
>-----------------------------------------
>Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
>PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
>PPTools: www.pptools.com
>================================================
>


 
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Patricia
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      26th Oct 2004
DANG......I meant POWERPOINT 2003>>>>>>>I was just having a brain fart
at the time....
Sorry Steve....

Steve Rindsberg wrote:
> In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
>
>>I don't think I've tried PPT3 itself, but the PPT3 viewer runs under
>>WIN98SE. On some machines there might be significant delays between
>>pushing a key and advancing to the next slide. We have one machine
>>that does work okay and we still use the PPT3 viewer sometimes! Trying
>>the PPT3viewer under WIN2K resulted in very long delays for the next
>>slide. I can't remember now if we were able to run it at all under
>>WINXP.

>
>
> Interesting. I don't know where I'd even *find* the old viewer at this point.
> I'm sure the floppies are long gone.
>
> Out of curiosity, is there a reason why it's still useful?
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
> Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> PPTools: www.pptools.com
> ================================================
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Steve Rindsberg
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      27th Oct 2004
> >Who'd have thought there'd still be a use for a piece of software this old?
> >Fascinating!
> >

>
> "This software" is barely middle-aged. For "old software" how about
> the stuff that NASA is still using for some of the probes, or how
> about that stuff that is still being used to keep aircraft from
> playing bumper cars in the sky?


;-)

You mean the stuff that motivated some of the astronauts to refuse to get in the can
unless NASA let them take their own Toshiba laptops along with them?

> I still have use for an audio analyzer system that runs on a
> '386SX/co-pro upgrade stuffed into the case of a '286 laptop. Needs a
> full length ISA slot and a maximum bus speed of 8 Mhz.


Can I interest you in a box or two full of SCSI stuff? I've got Jaz, ZIP, DAT and an
HDD and I think there's an ISA adaptec card in there too. It's all just looking for a
good home. Price is right, too: I package it up for free and put it on the porch for
your pickup guy to grab and deliver to you. ;-)

Re B key weirdnesses:

> (And, yes, I'm sure I've voiced my opinions on these topics to MSWISH
> at least once.)


Good!

> while we are getting away from the topic of screensavers, is there a
> society for creative computing anachronism?


It used to be my basement. I suppose it could meet now at the Smithsonian museum. <g>

>
> >In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
> >> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:46:24 EDT, Steve Rindsberg
> >> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, Villem teder wrote:
> >> >> I don't think I've tried PPT3 itself, but the PPT3 viewer runs under
> >> >> WIN98SE. On some machines there might be significant delays between
> >> >> pushing a key and advancing to the next slide. We have one machine
> >> >> that does work okay and we still use the PPT3 viewer sometimes! Trying
> >> >> the PPT3viewer under WIN2K resulted in very long delays for the next
> >> >> slide. I can't remember now if we were able to run it at all under
> >> >> WINXP.
> >> >
> >> >Interesting. I don't know where I'd even *find* the old viewer at this point.
> >> >I'm sure the floppies are long gone.
> >> >
> >> You'd have to get a copy from somebody who still has one. MS used have
> >> it available, but it disappeared when they stopped supporting software
> >> from that era.
> >>
> >> >Out of curiosity, is there a reason why it's still useful?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> It's main use is in the fade-through-black transition, for doing opera
> >> surtitles. It had the feature of having a real difference between the
> >> various speeds, with the slow being a real slow, compared to the
> >> barely noticeable differences with more current versions. I know that
> >> with XP and newer, there is the option of the custom animations, but
> >> these require much more work to have one slide transition to the next
> >> with only one key press, compared to applying a transition effect.
> >> It is only within the last few months that I have seen the
> >> fade-through-black transition actually work smoothly under PPT2003,
> >> the main difference appearing to be CPU horsepower.
> >> Also, the look of the fades don't look "linear" anymore, compared to
> >> with the PPT3 viewer. If the video card software has gamma correction,
> >> then this could be adjusted.
> >> There are a few custom written systems for surtitles that I'm in the
> >> process of looking at, but after using PPT for 10 years, it might take
> >> a little while to get used to them.
> >>
> >> And also, I don't think that PPT3 would run under WIN98SE, as PPT4
> >> won't run without problems. To use the PPT3 viewer, I save the current
> >> file from PPT2K as a PPT4 version, and then use PPT4 on WIN3.1
> >> computer to convert it to PPT3 for the viewer. More work but the
> >> results are worth it.
> >>
> >> Villem Teder
> >>
> >> >
> >> >-----------------------------------------
> >> >Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> >> >PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> >> >PPTools: www.pptools.com
> >> >================================================
> >> >
> >>

> >
> >-----------------------------------------
> >Steve Rindsberg, PPT MVP
> >PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
> >PPTools: www.pptools.com
> >================================================
> >

>


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PPT FAQ: www.pptfaq.com
PPTools: www.pptools.com
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