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Rainy
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      26th Jun 2006
Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the hard
drive?.. my son is still having problems.. he bought the computer with
windows xp already installed.. I suggested to him that what might fix some
of his problems if he uses the repair option on the cd.. he then informed me
he doesn't have the cd.. I think I already know the answer to this one.
but thought I would ask.. thanks Rainy

 
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jmatt@webace.com.au
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      26th Jun 2006
Rainy wrote:
> Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the hard drive?


If you have i386 ( about 500mb ) you can do a repair.

 
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Glen
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      26th Jun 2006
What type of XP is it. By that I mean is it an OEM or retail version. You
might be able to tell by looking at control panel | System | General tab.
Under registered to does the number there have OEM in it? Also what make of
computer is it. That might help identify the type of Windows installation.

What I am getting at is if you find out the type of Windows installation you
can borrow a disc from someone who has the same type. Just use your sons
serial number which will either be on a sticker on the case or use magic
jellybean to recover it.

You might find that the files are stored on a hidden partition on the
computer. Have a look in computer management to see it you can see a hidden
partition. There might also be a program shortcut on the start menu which
will give you access to some recovery options. Some manufacturers put their
own recovery program on there which gives access to the hidden partition. It
all depends on the computer type and so on.
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"Rainy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the hard
> drive?.. my son is still having problems.. he bought the computer with
> windows xp already installed.. I suggested to him that what might fix
> some
> of his problems if he uses the repair option on the cd.. he then informed
> me
> he doesn't have the cd.. I think I already know the answer to this one.
> but thought I would ask.. thanks Rainy
>



 
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Rainy
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      26th Jun 2006
what do you do copy and paste the contents to the windows folder?
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Rainy wrote:
> Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the hard
> drive?


If you have i386 ( about 500mb ) you can do a repair.

 
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Rainy
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      26th Jun 2006
I will send this to my son.. he will know this information.. thank you so
much.. I think it's retail... but will have to ask him..thanks so much!
Rainy
"Glen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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What type of XP is it. By that I mean is it an OEM or retail version. You
might be able to tell by looking at control panel | System | General tab.
Under registered to does the number there have OEM in it? Also what make of
computer is it. That might help identify the type of Windows installation.

What I am getting at is if you find out the type of Windows installation you
can borrow a disc from someone who has the same type. Just use your sons
serial number which will either be on a sticker on the case or use magic
jellybean to recover it.

You might find that the files are stored on a hidden partition on the
computer. Have a look in computer management to see it you can see a hidden
partition. There might also be a program shortcut on the start menu which
will give you access to some recovery options. Some manufacturers put their
own recovery program on there which gives access to the hidden partition. It
all depends on the computer type and so on.
--
Please repost if you find the fault

Glen P
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Rainy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the hard
> drive?.. my son is still having problems.. he bought the computer with
> windows xp already installed.. I suggested to him that what might fix
> some
> of his problems if he uses the repair option on the cd.. he then informed
> me
> he doesn't have the cd.. I think I already know the answer to this one.
> but thought I would ask.. thanks Rainy
>



 
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Rainy
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      26th Jun 2006
Hi again, woudln't the key and the serial number be connected.. I mean if
his key was issued with a certain serial number.. he would not be able to
do this with someone else's cd.. or could he? thanks Rainy
"Glen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
What type of XP is it. By that I mean is it an OEM or retail version. You
might be able to tell by looking at control panel | System | General tab.
Under registered to does the number there have OEM in it? Also what make of
computer is it. That might help identify the type of Windows installation.

What I am getting at is if you find out the type of Windows installation you
can borrow a disc from someone who has the same type. Just use your sons
serial number which will either be on a sticker on the case or use magic
jellybean to recover it.

You might find that the files are stored on a hidden partition on the
computer. Have a look in computer management to see it you can see a hidden
partition. There might also be a program shortcut on the start menu which
will give you access to some recovery options. Some manufacturers put their
own recovery program on there which gives access to the hidden partition. It
all depends on the computer type and so on.
--
Please repost if you find the fault

Glen P
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Rainy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed)...
> Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the hard
> drive?.. my son is still having problems.. he bought the computer with
> windows xp already installed.. I suggested to him that what might fix
> some
> of his problems if he uses the repair option on the cd.. he then informed
> me
> he doesn't have the cd.. I think I already know the answer to this one.
> but thought I would ask.. thanks Rainy
>



 
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Sharon F
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      26th Jun 2006
On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:44:22 -0500, Rainy wrote:

> Hi again, woudln't the key and the serial number be connected.. I mean if
> his key was issued with a certain serial number.. he would not be able to
> do this with someone else's cd.. or could he?


The product key is the constant. It enables the install (or repair
install). The serial number is generated randomly during the install
process. So, yes, they're connected but he needs the product key to install
or repair install.

If he install XP from a retail copy, the product key is included in the box
with the CD. If from an oem copy and Windows XP was preinstalled, there
should be a sticker with the prodcut key somewhere on the PC. The sticker
is placed somewhere on the PC tower for desktop units and found on the
bottom of laptops.

If a person has their product key, they can use that and any XP cd of the
same type (retail or generic oem) to reinstall.

If there's a specialized oem CD (HP, Compaq, etc) that has been bios locked
to one particular system - it gets tricky. Some of these will only install
on the original system. Some will install but require a phone call to
activate. Best practice here is to use what the OEM supplied and if a CD is
missing, contact the OEM about obtaining a replacement.

Some oem systems have recovery/restore procedures that are different or in
addition to the methods offered by just XP. For example- pressing F10
during boot time on an HP or Compaq system is likely to start their Oem
supplied recovery application.

If the system documentation is unavailable to your son, copies are most
likely downloadable from the oem. The documentation will inform about any
special recovery options that are available and how to use them.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
 
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Ken Blake, MVP
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      26th Jun 2006
Glen wrote:

> What type of XP is it. By that I mean is it an OEM or retail version.



Rainy says "he bought the computer with windows xp already installed" That
almost certainly means it's OEM.

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> You might be able to tell by looking at control panel | System |
> General tab. Under registered to does the number there have OEM in
> it? Also what make of computer is it. That might help identify the
> type of Windows installation.
> What I am getting at is if you find out the type of Windows
> installation you can borrow a disc from someone who has the same
> type. Just use your sons serial number which will either be on a
> sticker on the case or use magic jellybean to recover it.
>
> You might find that the files are stored on a hidden partition on the
> computer. Have a look in computer management to see it you can see a
> hidden partition. There might also be a program shortcut on the start
> menu which will give you access to some recovery options. Some
> manufacturers put their own recovery program on there which gives
> access to the hidden partition. It all depends on the computer type
> and so on.
> Glen P
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Rainy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the
>> hard drive?.. my son is still having problems.. he bought the
>> computer with windows xp already installed.. I suggested to him
>> that what might fix some
>> of his problems if he uses the repair option on the cd.. he then
>> informed me
>> he doesn't have the cd.. I think I already know the answer to this
>> one. but thought I would ask.. thanks Rainy



 
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Rainy
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      26th Jun 2006
he may have bought it used.. and just didn't get the cd with it.. but I will
ask him. thanks Ken... Rainy
"Ken Blake, MVP" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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Glen wrote:

> What type of XP is it. By that I mean is it an OEM or retail version.



Rainy says "he bought the computer with windows xp already installed" That
almost certainly means it's OEM.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


> You might be able to tell by looking at control panel | System |
> General tab. Under registered to does the number there have OEM in
> it? Also what make of computer is it. That might help identify the
> type of Windows installation.
> What I am getting at is if you find out the type of Windows
> installation you can borrow a disc from someone who has the same
> type. Just use your sons serial number which will either be on a
> sticker on the case or use magic jellybean to recover it.
>
> You might find that the files are stored on a hidden partition on the
> computer. Have a look in computer management to see it you can see a
> hidden partition. There might also be a program shortcut on the start
> menu which will give you access to some recovery options. Some
> manufacturers put their own recovery program on there which gives
> access to the hidden partition. It all depends on the computer type
> and so on.
> Glen P
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Rainy" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>> Hi, is there a way to use the repair option from somewhere on the
>> hard drive?.. my son is still having problems.. he bought the
>> computer with windows xp already installed.. I suggested to him
>> that what might fix some
>> of his problems if he uses the repair option on the cd.. he then
>> informed me
>> he doesn't have the cd.. I think I already know the answer to this
>> one. but thought I would ask.. thanks Rainy



 
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Rainy
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      26th Jun 2006
thanks sharon, will forward this to my son... Rainy
"Sharon F" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:44:22 -0500, Rainy wrote:

> Hi again, woudln't the key and the serial number be connected.. I mean if
> his key was issued with a certain serial number.. he would not be able to
> do this with someone else's cd.. or could he?


The product key is the constant. It enables the install (or repair
install). The serial number is generated randomly during the install
process. So, yes, they're connected but he needs the product key to install
or repair install.

If he install XP from a retail copy, the product key is included in the box
with the CD. If from an oem copy and Windows XP was preinstalled, there
should be a sticker with the prodcut key somewhere on the PC. The sticker
is placed somewhere on the PC tower for desktop units and found on the
bottom of laptops.

If a person has their product key, they can use that and any XP cd of the
same type (retail or generic oem) to reinstall.

If there's a specialized oem CD (HP, Compaq, etc) that has been bios locked
to one particular system - it gets tricky. Some of these will only install
on the original system. Some will install but require a phone call to
activate. Best practice here is to use what the OEM supplied and if a CD is
missing, contact the OEM about obtaining a replacement.

Some oem systems have recovery/restore procedures that are different or in
addition to the methods offered by just XP. For example- pressing F10
during boot time on an HP or Compaq system is likely to start their Oem
supplied recovery application.

If the system documentation is unavailable to your son, copies are most
likely downloadable from the oem. The documentation will inform about any
special recovery options that are available and how to use them.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

 
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