On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:57:02 +0000 (UTC), "Ellis Hammond"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> Hi has anyone had any bad sector problems with seagate barracuda
> hard drives?. My 60GB drive has just developed them and
> <its only a year old. Are they all like this?

What temperature are the drive running at?

Im not sure, I used to have a program which monitored the temp bt havent got
it anymore. I have 2 hardrives in my pc the seagate is my main one with
windows on it and the second is a western digital used for backing up. They
used to be right on top of each other but since the bad sector occured I
have moved it away from the other drive. Could the heat have an impact on
the drive and cause the bad sector?. Also the bad sector is 4kb.

Thanks
Ellis
"Ken" <___(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 6 Jul 2003 13:57:02 +0000 (UTC), "Ellis Hammond"
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> > Hi has anyone had any bad sector problems with seagate barracuda
> > hard drives?. My 60GB drive has just developed them and
> > <its only a year old. Are they all like this?
>
> What temperature are the drive running at?
>
>

Ellis Hammond wrote:

> Im not sure, I used to have a program which monitored the temp bt havent got
> it anymore. I have 2 hardrives in my pc the seagate is my main one with
> windows on it and the second is a western digital used for backing up. They
> used to be right on top of each other but since the bad sector occured I
> have moved it away from the other drive. Could the heat have an impact on
> the drive and cause the bad sector?. Also the bad sector is 4kb.


Absolutely. Above normal temperature will always cause premature drive
failure. The Barracudas have a reputation for running warmer than most
others, so should only be used in configurations where the airflow
around the drive is adequate.


-WD

"Ellis Hammond" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Im not sure, I used to have a program which monitored the temp bt havent
got
> it anymore. I have 2 hardrives in my pc the seagate is my main one with
> windows on it and the second is a western digital used for backing up.
They
> used to be right on top of each other but since the bad sector occured I
> have moved it away from the other drive. Could the heat have an impact on
> the drive and cause the bad sector?. Also the bad sector is 4kb.
>
Bad sectors are not good, but can occur on any harddisk. One of my IBM
harddrives had bad sectors for a long time, and a few days ago it crashed
and didn't boot anymore. The disk was less than three years old and have
been in a hot system for a long time. That may have caused the problem, but
I don't know for sure.
It's a good choice that you've moved the drives away from each other. Maybe
a harddisk cooling kit can cool the harddisks even more if that's necessary.
I also recommend that you backup your important files frequently.

Anyway, to read the drive temperature (and SMART attributes), use DTemp:
http://private.peterlink.ru/tochinov/
Another program that can also read mainboard and cpu temperature is
HMonitor, but I don't have an address for that program (use google). SiSoft
Sandra does also have an option to read the drive temperature, but it cannot
monitor 'real-time' (in system tray).

Thanks for the help thats a good program. The only problem is I wished I had
that before the bad sectors occured as it would warn me that there too hot.
Do you think it would be advisable to look around for a new hardrive because
I dont really want to boot up one day and nothing happens. I dont know if I
should risk buying another seagate barracuda because they run very hot. But
I brought the drive because of how quiet it was!. Again thanks for the help


Ellis

"Wouter van Oijen" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> "Ellis Hammond" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:be9s50$603$(E-Mail Removed)...
> > Im not sure, I used to have a program which monitored the temp bt havent
> got
> > it anymore. I have 2 hardrives in my pc the seagate is my main one with
> > windows on it and the second is a western digital used for backing up.
> They
> > used to be right on top of each other but since the bad sector occured I
> > have moved it away from the other drive. Could the heat have an impact
on
> > the drive and cause the bad sector?. Also the bad sector is 4kb.
> >
> Bad sectors are not good, but can occur on any harddisk. One of my IBM
> harddrives had bad sectors for a long time, and a few days ago it crashed
> and didn't boot anymore. The disk was less than three years old and have
> been in a hot system for a long time. That may have caused the problem,
but
> I don't know for sure.
> It's a good choice that you've moved the drives away from each other.
Maybe
> a harddisk cooling kit can cool the harddisks even more if that's
necessary.
> I also recommend that you backup your important files frequently.
>
> Anyway, to read the drive temperature (and SMART attributes), use DTemp:
> http://private.peterlink.ru/tochinov/
> Another program that can also read mainboard and cpu temperature is
> HMonitor, but I don't have an address for that program (use google).
SiSoft
> Sandra does also have an option to read the drive temperature, but it
cannot
> monitor 'real-time' (in system tray).
>
>
>

"Ellis Hammond" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the help thats a good program. The only problem is I wished I
had
> that before the bad sectors occured as it would warn me that there too
hot.
Yeah, I had the same problem :-)

> Do you think it would be advisable to look around for a new hardrive
because
> I dont really want to boot up one day and nothing happens. I dont know if
I
> should risk buying another seagate barracuda because they run very hot.
But
> I brought the drive because of how quiet it was!. Again thanks for the
help

If you can afford it, buy another harddisk and use the current (damaged)
drive as a backup-drive, or for other documents that are not too
important... You can also choose to use the Western Digital drive as system
drive, and the Seagate drive for backups, but that depends on the sizes of
the drives.

If you plan to buy a new harddisk, I recommend IBM/Hitachi. The DeskStar
120GXP and 180GXP series are very quiet, and stay much cooler than Maxtor or
Seagate (at least that are my experiences). For information about this
harddisks:
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/desk/ds120gxp.htm (Deskstar 120GXP)
http://www.hgst.com/hdd/desk/ds180gxp.htm (Deskstar 180GXP)

To answer the question in your other post, 37C is not a problem. IBM
specifies the maximum ambient temperature as 55C (operating) or 65C
(non-operating). If you stay below that level, no need to worry. I try to
keep my drives below 45C, and that's almost never a problem. At this moment,
they're all 32C-33C.

Wouter

On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 05:00:21 GMT, Will Dormann <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

> > Im not sure, I used to have a program which monitored the temp bt havent got
> > it anymore. I have 2 hardrives in my pc the seagate is my main one with
> > windows on it and the second is a western digital used for backing up. They
> > used to be right on top of each other but since the bad sector occured I
> > have moved it away from the other drive. Could the heat have an impact on
> > the drive and cause the bad sector?. Also the bad sector is 4kb.
>
>
> Absolutely. Above normal temperature will always cause premature drive
> failure. The Barracudas have a reputation for running warmer than most
> others, so should only be used in configurations where the airflow
> around the drive is adequate.

Yes. My Barracudas is running warmer than my IBM deskstar.
You need to have proper air flow around the drives.
This is a simple and good working program for temperature check.
http://private.peterlink.ru/tochinov/download.html
Temperature in Taskbar
http://w1.857.telia.com/~u85710476/d...e/hdtemp04.png
Temperature warning
http://w1.857.telia.com/~u85710476/d...e/hdtemp07.png
Cconfiguration
http://w1.857.telia.com/~u85710476/d...e/hdtemp02.png

Ken wrote:
> Yes. My Barracudas is running warmer than my IBM deskstar.
> You need to have proper air flow around the drives.
> This is a simple and good working program for temperature check.
> http://private.peterlink.ru/tochinov/download.html


Nice. I like that it shows the temp right in the taskbar without any
clicking.


-WD