Make sure write cache is not enabled.

Possible Data Loss After You Enable the "Write Cache Enabled" Feature
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=281672

http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q233541

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Lothar Belle" wrote:
|
| Hi,
| we have sometimes a broken system-file.
| I think this happens during shutdown prozess.
|
| With ntbackup i can make a copy of the registry files with the emergency
| option into %windir%\repair
|
| Unfortunatly there i didnt find any commandline parameters to make a
| Batchfile which make this backup every day.
|
| Lothar
|
|
|
|

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:31:01 -0600, "Dave Patrick"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>| we have sometimes a broken system-file.
>| I think this happens during shutdown prozess.
>|
>| With ntbackup i can make a copy of the registry files with the emergency
>| option into %windir%\repair
>|
>| Unfortunatly there i didnt find any commandline parameters to make a
>| Batchfile which make this backup every day.

I am not exactly sure what you want to accomplish. So what I say below
may not apply. In any event, you can capture the command line as
follows.

Use the NTBACKUP Scheduler to create a schedule with the desired
effect. Go to Control Panel -> Scheduled Tasks and retrieve the
command line from which you should be able to make a batch file.


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limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 08:31:01 -0600, "Dave Patrick"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>Make sure write cache is not enabled.
>
>Possible Data Loss After You Enable the "Write Cache Enabled" Feature
>http://support.microsoft.com/?id=281672
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/default...;en-us;Q233541

I read those articles, for what they are worth.

Please explain in English why it is important to disable the Write
Cache.

Maybe that's what is causing the disk corruption problem I am
experiencing when I shut down.


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Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson

The article 281672 is in English for me. It means the write cache may not
always be flushed to disk at shutdown hence some pending registry writes may
not take place leaving the registry corrupted.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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"Bob" wrote:
| I read those articles, for what they are worth.
|
| Please explain in English why it is important to disable the Write
| Cache.
|
| Maybe that's what is causing the disk corruption problem I am
| experiencing when I shut down.
|
|
| --
|
| Greatest Movie Line Ever
| http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
|
| "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
| limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
| 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
| will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
| -- Thomas Jefferson

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 10:30:28 -0600, "Dave Patrick"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>The article 281672 is in English for me.

That's because you speak Microsoft English. :-)

>It means the write cache may not
>always be flushed to disk at shutdown hence some pending registry writes may
>not take place leaving the registry corrupted.

Yes, I managed to get that much out of it.

What I am looking for are comments that Microsoft's lawyers would not
let the developers put in, like why is it there if it doesn't work
reliably.

The most important question to me is what happens if I turn it off. It
would appear that there are no problems otherwise people would not
recommend turning it off.

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Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson

At best it is a performance issue. At worst it is a registry corruption
issue.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Bob" wrote:
| That's because you speak Microsoft English. :-)
|
| >It means the write cache may not
| >always be flushed to disk at shutdown hence some pending registry writes
may
| >not take place leaving the registry corrupted.
|
| Yes, I managed to get that much out of it.
|
| What I am looking for are comments that Microsoft's lawyers would not
| let the developers put in, like why is it there if it doesn't work
| reliably.
|
| The most important question to me is what happens if I turn it off. It
| would appear that there are no problems otherwise people would not
| recommend turning it off.
|
| --
|
| Greatest Movie Line Ever
| http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
|
| "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
| limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
| 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
| will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
| -- Thomas Jefferson

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 11:27:36 -0600, "Dave Patrick"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>At best it is a performance issue. At worst it is a registry corruption
>issue.

It does fuss at the Event Viewer.

Strange I have been running with this cache on all these many years,
and now I need to turn it off.

BTW, I thought the problem mentioned in those MS articles was fixed
for Win2K with SP3. I am running SP4 so presumably I do not have any
problem.


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Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson

"It does fuss at the Event Viewer"
I've no idea what this means.

"I have been running with this cache on all these many years"
You never did tell us what problems you're having specifically.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Bob" wrote:
| It does fuss at the Event Viewer.
|
| Strange I have been running with this cache on all these many years,
| and now I need to turn it off.
|
| BTW, I thought the problem mentioned in those MS articles was fixed
| for Win2K with SP3. I am running SP4 so presumably I do not have any
| problem.
|
|
| --
|
| Greatest Movie Line Ever
| http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
|
| "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
| limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
| 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
| will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
| -- Thomas Jefferson

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:55:56 -0600, "Dave Patrick"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"It does fuss at the Event Viewer"
>I've no idea what this means.

It puts an entry in Event Viewer every time I reboot. It says that the
write cache is disabled.


>"I have been running with this cache on all these many years"
>You never did tell us what problems you're having specifically.

They are all chronicled in the thread on this forum entitled

"Repairing Usn Journal"

Something is corrupting my volume and based on the description in
those articles, it could be the write cache. It all began when I
commissioned three new WD drives. I also commissioned some other
things which masked the problem. Now I have no other things and the
problem persists.

The corruption is apparently a random event since I cannot correlate
it with anything. I thought it was caused by Norton Protect but I have
removed all that and it still persists. I now have the write cache
disabled, so I will find out soon enough.


--

Greatest Movie Line Ever
http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
-- Thomas Jefferson

A source and ID may help.

I will catch up on that thread when I get a couple of days off next weekend.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"Bob" wrote:
| It puts an entry in Event Viewer every time I reboot. It says that the
| write cache is disabled.
|
|
| >"I have been running with this cache on all these many years"
| >You never did tell us what problems you're having specifically.
|
| They are all chronicled in the thread on this forum entitled
|
| "Repairing Usn Journal"
|
| Something is corrupting my volume and based on the description in
| those articles, it could be the write cache. It all began when I
| commissioned three new WD drives. I also commissioned some other
| things which masked the problem. Now I have no other things and the
| problem persists.
|
| The corruption is apparently a random event since I cannot correlate
| it with anything. I thought it was caused by Norton Protect but I have
| removed all that and it still persists. I now have the write cache
| disabled, so I will find out soon enough.
|
|
| --
|
| Greatest Movie Line Ever
| http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/MovieLine.wmv
|
| "Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within
| limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add
| 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's
| will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."
| -- Thomas Jefferson